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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 01:48 PM Feb 2014

Peggy Noonan Wants Us All To Stop Obsessing Over A President's Personality And Charisma

TOM KLUDT – FEBRUARY 14, 2014, 12:29 PM EST

Peggy Noonan, of all people, thinks the country has become too infatuated with the "personality" and "charisma" of its presidents.

In her latest Wall Street Journal column, the former Ronald Reagan speechwriter tried to glean some meaning from Diane Blair's papers on Hillary Clinton.

Noonan concluded that we've all been too focused on irrelevant characteristics in our presidents — a trend that started, conveniently, after her hero left the White House.

There is an emphasis on the personality, nature, character and charisma of the president. He gets into dramas. He survives them. He is working out his issues. He is avenging childhood feelings of powerlessness. He is working through his ambivalence at certain power dynamics. He will show dad.


It's pretty rich coming from Noonan, who once wrote this in her 2003 Reagan hagiography, "What I Saw at the Revolution":

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Peggy Noonan Wants Us All To Stop Obsessing Over A President's Personality And Charisma (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2014 OP
What a huge pile of poop! So, it's only ok when babylonsister Feb 2014 #1
That's hilarious, coming from St. Ronnie's most faithful disciple. Scuba Feb 2014 #2
+1 Rex Feb 2014 #6
Right on the mark shenmue Feb 2014 #16
Peggy Noonan is a blowhard C_U_L8R Feb 2014 #3
I'm kind of with her in a skewed way. onehandle Feb 2014 #4
THIS from the person that FAWNED all over the Reagans!? Rex Feb 2014 #5
In high school I was required to read "What I Saw at the Revolution" Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #19
A president with no substance and all charm The Second Stone Feb 2014 #7
When one is void of "personality" and "charisma", one attempts minimize that of others. nt Snotcicles Feb 2014 #8
ROFL, classic projection! nt alsame Feb 2014 #9
Peggy Noonan? The same Peggy Noonan who was Ronald Reagans "Fluffer"? Autumn Feb 2014 #10
Let's not forget her creepy St. Ronnie foot fetish or whatever the fuck that was (disclaimer: I have Guy Whitey Corngood Feb 2014 #11
Ew. Creepy. (nt) Control-Z Feb 2014 #17
This from St. Ronnie's heavy-breathing chief hagiographer? The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2014 #12
So do a lot of DU'rs, they hate him too uponit7771 Feb 2014 #13
I'd like to see what she wrote when Gore was running gollygee Feb 2014 #14
All Reagan HAD was irrelevant characteristics. Well, that and Noonan to make him seem substantial. Gidney N Cloyd Feb 2014 #15
This, from the woman who spent years fellating that demented Reagan? Nay Feb 2014 #18
she must be hitting the sauce again rbrnmw Feb 2014 #20
Says the Reagan speech writer? Capt. Obvious Feb 2014 #21
look, if hitler says 2+2=4, i'm not going to disagree. nt TheFrenchRazor Feb 2014 #22

babylonsister

(171,054 posts)
1. What a huge pile of poop! So, it's only ok when
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 01:55 PM
Feb 2014

she does it?

She wrote this about Obama: won't link to article because it's worthless.

He is cold, like someone who is contained not because he's disciplined and successfully restrains his emotions, but because there's not that much to restrain. This is the dark side of cool. One wonders if this will play well with the American people. Long-term it is hard to get people to trust your policies if they think you're coolly operating on some intellectual or ideological abstractions.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
4. I'm kind of with her in a skewed way.
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 02:01 PM
Feb 2014

Obama voters who only showed up for his "personality" and "charisma" in 2008, then failed to show up for 2010, did immeasurable damage to the country.

I expect the same for 2014.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
19. In high school I was required to read "What I Saw at the Revolution"
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 03:39 PM
Feb 2014

Which was 400-page love letter to Nixon, Reagan and Bush...

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
7. A president with no substance and all charm
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 02:05 PM
Feb 2014

would be Ronald Reagan. A president with no substance and no charm would be W.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,500 posts)
11. Let's not forget her creepy St. Ronnie foot fetish or whatever the fuck that was (disclaimer: I have
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 02:20 PM
Feb 2014

nothing against foot fetishes.)

I first saw President Reagan as a foot, highly polished brown cordovan wagging merrily on a hassock. I spied it through the door. It was a beautiful foot, sleek. Such casual elegance and clean lines! But not a big foot, not formidable, maybe a little ...frail. I imagined cradling it in my arms, protecting it from unsmooth roads.
Peggy Noonan, speechwriter for the Reagan administration
US speechwriter for George Bush (1950 - )

http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/23049.html

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
14. I'd like to see what she wrote when Gore was running
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 02:37 PM
Feb 2014

and all the media people kept talking about how they'd rather have a beer with W. Did she think people should ignore W's personality?

Nay

(12,051 posts)
18. This, from the woman who spent years fellating that demented Reagan?
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 03:39 PM
Feb 2014

Honestly, can someone call her up and explain to her what "projection" is and tell her to STFU????

rbrnmw

(7,160 posts)
20. she must be hitting the sauce again
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 03:43 PM
Feb 2014

She must have been in a blackout when she quite regularly praised Raygun's character, personality, and charisma. Also wasn't she one of the dittoheads that keep saying Dubya was a guy everyone wanted to have a beer with?

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