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Sarah Ibarruri

(21,043 posts)
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 01:41 AM Feb 2014

My mom and dad passed away on Nov. 8 and Nov. 11, 2013.

It's been almost impossible for me to talk about it, since not a second passes that I don't miss them, and deal with the shock of having to spend the rest of my life without having them to call, talk to, take out to eat, buy things for, laugh with, and spend time with. I've cried so much I'm surprised I am still able to cry. I cry in the car, cry in the bathroom at work, cry myself to sleep. I've spent the past 3 months going through the motions of working, talking, functioning, and behaving as if I had it all together, but I don't. Inside me there's a turmoil, pain, and an incredible, heavy sadness.

They were the most wonderful parents, and that makes it all the more painful. I was truly lucky to have them as long as I did, but that doesn't provide any solace.

And today, Valentine's Day, I'm having an incredibly difficult time dealing with it all. Christmas and New Years I spent in a state of numbness, as if someone had severed nerves in my body. I barely noticed them because of how numb I felt. The holidays came and went as if they had not come at all. I could've been pierced with a lance, and wouldn't have felt it. For some reason though, Valentine's Day is proving to be excrutiatingly painful for me, and I don't even know why. It is the first holiday I'm fully aware of since mom and dad left me, and I feel a sense of isolation like never before, and wish that they could come back.



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My mom and dad passed away on Nov. 8 and Nov. 11, 2013. (Original Post) Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 OP
Itis hard to be an orphan... drthais Feb 2014 #1
So sorry yeoman6987 Feb 2014 #53
We're all very sorry, elleng Feb 2014 #2
Losing both your parents, and so close together, is horrifying... CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2014 #3
I'm so sorry. liberalmuse Feb 2014 #4
They will always be with you and the most influential The Second Stone Feb 2014 #16
I love your last sentence. 'We are all brothers and sisters passing briefly through this world'. sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #23
Eloquently put friend. JNelson6563 Feb 2014 #87
Sarah, I am so sorry for your loss. peace13 Feb 2014 #5
I'm so sorry for your loss, too, peace 13. loudsue Feb 2014 #84
Thank you dear person. peace13 Feb 2014 #106
Hugs Stargazer09 Feb 2014 #6
I am so very sorry, Sarah. Mnemosyne Feb 2014 #7
So very sorry for your loss Sarah. sheshe2 Feb 2014 #8
I'm really sorry KT2000 Feb 2014 #9
Wow! You stated eloquently what many of us have felt in our Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #10
It gets better. Warpy Feb 2014 #11
True. Becoming an Orphan is difficult. Losing parents so close together makes that change bluestate10 Feb 2014 #107
Thank you. Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #12
You can't ever go back in time but what will get you through the future 30cal Feb 2014 #35
Life will be tough. But think about the good things your parents stood for. You will bluestate10 Feb 2014 #109
Some helpful resources Hannahcares Feb 2014 #13
I'm so sorry TDale313 Feb 2014 #14
Thanks for your heartfelt post, I can only imagine your pain. Jesus Malverde Feb 2014 #15
Thank you so much. Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #21
its the ones that sneak up on me that hurt the most Hamlette Feb 2014 #17
I am so sorry csziggy Feb 2014 #18
Sarah Lefta Dissenter Feb 2014 #19
(Sarah) LiberalAndProud Feb 2014 #20
I know it's hard as hell, Sarah, but please hang in there dear. I lost my mother ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2014 #22
So sorry to hear of your loss, Paka Feb 2014 #24
Thank you so much. Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #29
Talking about it, and getting caring and loving support, helps tremendously. ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2014 #33
That is so sad, to lose both parents so close to one another. I'm not sure how anyone can sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #25
Big Hugs!! applegrove Feb 2014 #26
from what some others who have experienced very personal loss have said JI7 Feb 2014 #27
its the worst fraternity. my parents died ten months apart several years ago and I am still roguevalley Feb 2014 #28
Sarah, Thor_MN Feb 2014 #30
That numb feeling. progressoid Feb 2014 #31
I am so sorry you have suffered such a devastating LibDemAlways Feb 2014 #32
your pain is still on the front burner of the stove at a moderate boil 2pooped2pop Feb 2014 #34
I'm so sorry! Solly Mack Feb 2014 #36
Ah, Sarah, I am so sorry. It's going to take a long, long time to get past it... freshwest Feb 2014 #37
I haven't yet gone through this myself. kentauros Feb 2014 #38
I have. Time does heal, but verrrrrry slowly. DFW Feb 2014 #42
Yeah, I can understand that, especially being close to them. kentauros Feb 2014 #44
Mine never made it to 80. DFW Feb 2014 #46
102! kentauros Feb 2014 #47
He sent out a Chrsitmas card when he was 99 DFW Feb 2014 #49
What a character! kentauros Feb 2014 #66
It's sort of off key, and it won't help Sarah Ibarurri, but: DFW Feb 2014 #69
I'm so sorry to hear that. KitSileya Feb 2014 #39
.... defacto7 Feb 2014 #40
So sorry for your loss Sarah. bearssoapbox Feb 2014 #41
my heart goes out to you. i simply can not imagine what it must be like to orleans Feb 2014 #43
I am very, very sorry for your loss. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #45
I'm, so sorry. You do get used to it, in time/ n/t Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #48
hope your grief gets better soon steve2470 Feb 2014 #50
you have my deepest sympathies onethatcares Feb 2014 #51
I am so very sorry for your loss mnhtnbb Feb 2014 #52
I am so sorry for this great loss. irisblue Feb 2014 #54
It's a horrible thing, I am so very very Ilsa Feb 2014 #55
My heart hurts for you, I am very sorry Justice Feb 2014 #56
Hugs for you Sarah - TBF Feb 2014 #57
Honey, I am so so sorry for your losses. nc4bo Feb 2014 #58
Sarah, you have my deepest sympathy. Gemini Cat Feb 2014 #59
I am so sorry for what you are going through. arthritisR_US Feb 2014 #60
I don't know how anyone copes with losing both parents malaise Feb 2014 #61
My deepest sympathies. CrispyQ Feb 2014 #62
It IS so hard etherealtruth Feb 2014 #63
I'm an orphan too... PasadenaTrudy Feb 2014 #64
I feel your pain...this is something I will be facing too HipChick Feb 2014 #65
Perhpas you can get solace in this thought question everything Feb 2014 #67
what I learned from grief babydollhead Feb 2014 #68
Dear Sarah, give yourself a minimum of two years Demeter Feb 2014 #70
I have no words of comfort senseandsensibility Feb 2014 #71
Thanks for sharing this flamingdem Feb 2014 #72
Your post resonated with my own personal situation. Sheepshank Feb 2014 #73
As others said... PsychGrad Feb 2014 #74
This message was self-deleted by its author BodieTown Feb 2014 #75
I am so sorry for your loss Lifelong Protester Feb 2014 #76
I lost my parents exactly 6 weeks apart, so I know what you are going through. Frustratedlady Feb 2014 #77
Oh Sarah! redwitch Feb 2014 #78
I'm so very sorry for your loss. TheOther95Percent Feb 2014 #79
I'm so sorry, Sarah. City Lights Feb 2014 #80
Oh, Sarah, leftieNanner Feb 2014 #81
{{{Sarah Ibarruri}}} I'm very sorry for the recent loss of your cherished parents. WinkyDink Feb 2014 #82
I can't imagine how you feel but my heart goes out to you... Theyletmeeatcake2 Feb 2014 #83
Oh yes. I will always miss them. Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #90
No words. JNelson6563 Feb 2014 #85
I too have been in that sad place but take heart, the hurt fades and the love remains.as I sit here Drew Richards Feb 2014 #86
So sorry. Wish there was a way to give comfort. joanbarnes Feb 2014 #88
So sorry, Sarah WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2014 #89
I'm so very sorry vankuria Feb 2014 #91
I lost my dad three years ago nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #92
My tears started as I looked at the dates. I am so very sorry. The pain does LoisB Feb 2014 #93
The Love of Parents duggie99 Feb 2014 #94
Thank you Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #95
Thank-you for sharing your story... vankuria Feb 2014 #103
This so touching and personal libodem Feb 2014 #114
. LWolf Feb 2014 #96
Sarah, I felt so much like you describe loudsue Feb 2014 #97
Heartbreaking deek Feb 2014 #98
My mother died in September 1965 when I was 20, my father 9 months later in 1966 when I was 21. Jackpine Radical Feb 2014 #99
I'm so sorry, Sarah... ReRe Feb 2014 #100
Im a so sorry for your lost...(((hugs))) and more (((hugs))) SummerSnow Feb 2014 #101
So deeply sorry for you, I can only imaging the pain. Hugs....n/t radhika Feb 2014 #102
. Liberal_in_LA Feb 2014 #104
So sorry Sarah we can do it Feb 2014 #105
Keeping you in my thoughts Oilwellian Feb 2014 #108
() Jack Rabbit Feb 2014 #110
There will come a night, dinger130 Feb 2014 #111
(((((((Sarah Ibarruri))))))) WillyT Feb 2014 #112
I'm so sorry, Sarah. I can't even begin to imagine how it feels... Violet_Crumble Feb 2014 #113
My heart is with you, Sarah. pablo_marmol Feb 2014 #115
Awww… Sarah, thank you for sharing this painful time with us here. calimary Feb 2014 #116

drthais

(870 posts)
1. Itis hard to be an orphan...
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 01:45 AM
Feb 2014

but it gets better over time...
there's nothing more to say, really - except I know how that feels

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
53. So sorry
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 08:14 AM
Feb 2014

I totally understand My Dad died on March 23, 1990 and my Mom on November 3, 2013. It is hard as heck trying to survive without them. You have plenty of support here.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,528 posts)
3. Losing both your parents, and so close together, is horrifying...
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 01:47 AM
Feb 2014

No wonder you feel the way you do.

Esp. if there was little or no warning.

You might consider getting into a bereavement type of group where you wouldn't be alone with this awful shock. I understand from people who've been there that these groups can be very helpful.

Time will heal you, but until it does, you will probably need support.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
4. I'm so sorry.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 01:48 AM
Feb 2014

Losing a parent is devastating, but losing two of them so close together like you have is overwhelming. This sounds hokey, but they ARE with you. You carry their spirits and all the memories you shared over the years. I know it's not quite the same as having a physical presence, but they are with you every other way. I hope you can find support of loved ones and friends, because it sounds like you need a hug and just someone to be there with you physically through your pain.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
16. They will always be with you and the most influential
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 02:13 AM
Feb 2014

people to you that you will ever have in your life. Cherish their memory and the time you had together and know that they would tell you to get out and meet new people. And as rough as it is to lose both of them so close together, know that their separation from each other was very short.

We are all brothers and sisters passing briefly through this world. Spread the love and feel it. They loved you.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
23. I love your last sentence. 'We are all brothers and sisters passing briefly through this world'.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 02:31 AM
Feb 2014

When an accident took away the person who was my whole life, I guess, looking back now I was in a state of shock for a long time. I wanted to cry, but could not. Then I met someone who had lost HIS wife to lung cancer at age 32. He asked me how I was as he knew what had happened. I told him I was having trouble grasping the finality of it all.

He said that he understood since it was so unexpected but that he and his wife, they had an eight year old daughter, had had time to discuss everything, which of course we did not. I asked him how he was coping with his loss. He said:

'We are all on a merry-go-round. The way we saw it, my wife was going to get off first, then I and my daughter will eventually follow her.' I'm not sure why, but that was so comforting to me. So many words are spoken, people mean well, and everyone handles grief in their own way, but that image appealed to me for some reason.

Your last sentence reminded me of that.

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
87. Eloquently put friend.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 07:38 PM
Feb 2014

There will come a time when the OP will only smile when they think of their parents. I think with this situation it will take longer than when losing only one parent. It will still come though and memories will be cherished with no tears.

Julie

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
5. Sarah, I am so sorry for your loss.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 01:54 AM
Feb 2014

Please call your local Hospice no matter if your parents where in hospice or not. Tell the peron who answers the phone how you are feeling. Do not take no for an answer that you need to talk to someone! They have grief counselors or can help you find someone one in your local area that can help.
You are not alone. It is natural to feel the way you are feeling. My sister died three weeks ago. Although I had plenty of time to prepare it still seems unreal to me.

I send you love and healing energy.
Peace and love, Kim

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
106. Thank you dear person.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 11:30 PM
Feb 2014

We have to stick together down here. Life on earth can be a challenge. I try to remember that there is a lot of love and human kindness down here. We just have to keep our hearts open to it! Peace and Love, Kim

Stargazer09

(2,132 posts)
6. Hugs
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 01:55 AM
Feb 2014

I lost my parents many years ago, four years apart. I miss them every day, even after all this time.

You are not alone in your struggles to deal with your loss. The holidays are rough on me, even after two decades, but the pain is no longer debilitating.

Everyone grieves at his or her own pace, but please consider talking to a grief counselor. Three months is not a long time, I know, but having someone to talk to might help.

In the meantime, please accept this internet hug from someone who has been there. It's not much, but you are not alone.

KT2000

(20,568 posts)
9. I'm really sorry
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 02:07 AM
Feb 2014

It must have been such a shock. It's funny but that shock and numbness was really protecting you. Now that the shock is wearing off it is difficult. Do talk with someone like a grief counselor if it gets to be too much. There are people who can help.
Best to you.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
10. Wow! You stated eloquently what many of us have felt in our
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 02:08 AM
Feb 2014

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Grief. I lost my mom in Feb 2011 but as she was diagnosed with Stage IV lung cancer in Oct 2010 I did most of my crying in October and November that year. My twin sister was then diagnosed with Recurring cervical cancer in September 2011 and died in June 2012. That was a bleak period. I went to months of grief counseling.

I am taking it as a good sign that you've moved from numbness to feeling. Even if that feeling is painful. As you work out how you intentionally grieve for your parents and honor them in their deaths, you will find the strength to carry on with your life without them even if it seems impossible right now.

We all grieve in our own way and at our own speed. Take your time and take care of yourself physically and emotionally.

Warpy

(111,169 posts)
11. It gets better.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 02:08 AM
Feb 2014

Just hang in there. I don't know that the pain is any less, but we get used to it, to that empty spot where they used to be. It becomes a part of us and helps us remember them.



bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
107. True. Becoming an Orphan is difficult. Losing parents so close together makes that change
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 11:59 PM
Feb 2014

even more difficult. I can't imagine how it feels to lose parents within days, but I do know what being an Orphan feels like. Sarah will see some blue days ahead, but she must get professional help if she starts feeling deeply down. I needed two years to resurface after the death of my last living parent, but I came out of that as a stronger person with enormous more appreciation of what my parents did to prepare me to survive and thrive when they had passed.

Sarah should think about the funny things that happened between her and her parents. My smile when I think about how I would awake to find a mysterious extra blanket put over me on cold nights that my Mother had awaken to put over me, or the heavy old quilt my Mother gave me that is my security blanket against deep cold wherever I go. My Father gave me advice on economic cycles and how I must prepare for bad times during good times, yet he didn't have formal schooling, he just learned and made sure that he passed his wisdom to me. I can still hear the funny saying that me Father would exclaim when surprised, a set of words that would crack all his children up, even as he was serious.

Sarah Ibarruri

(21,043 posts)
12. Thank you.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 02:08 AM
Feb 2014

I still have their love, and the person I am, which I can thank them for. At times, though, I'm much too overwhelmed to handle it. I think how good it would be to go back in time and see them again.

30cal

(99 posts)
35. You can't ever go back in time but what will get you through the future
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 03:38 AM
Feb 2014

is the wonderful memories and love you shared with them.
It's something to treasure and hold close to your soul.

I lost my father and not a day goes by when I don't think about him.
When I start to feel sad I think of the memories of the first time
he walked in the house with a new puppy or the
first time he decided to teach me to drive.
We both laughed so hard a few times during that..

And I know my dad wouldn't want me to feel sad everyday .
Please just know that it will get better and there will be times
something you see or hear will remind you of them and it will
be a smile , it won't always be sadness

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
109. Life will be tough. But think about the good things your parents stood for. You will
Sun Feb 16, 2014, 12:09 AM
Feb 2014

come out stronger, and that is the very end result that both of your parents would have wanted. Like you, I am an Orphan. Your parents prepared you for life after their deaths, you need to accept that, fully embrace that and move forward.

Hannahcares

(118 posts)
13. Some helpful resources
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 02:09 AM
Feb 2014

Sarah, I am so sorry for the loss of your parents. I do hope you are seeking help from your friends, colleagues and counselors who can support you through this difficult time. There is a well-recommended book by Alexander Levy called "the Orphaned Adult - Understanding and Coping With Grief and Change. A friend facing similar circumstances found this guide very helpful. our thoughts and prayers will be with you as you navigate these uncharted waters. Please let us know how you are doing.

Hamlette

(15,408 posts)
17. its the ones that sneak up on me that hurt the most
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 02:16 AM
Feb 2014

I "made plans" for Thanksgiving the year my mom died (Dad had died 9 years earlier) and Christmas, birthdays, mother's day. Refusing to be alone, or thinking leaving town would help (not really). And like you, there are days that I'm not expecting to be laid low, like Valentine's Day. I remember my mom always bought us girls a gift (supposedly from Dad).

It never goes away. My Dad had been ill for years when he died but Mom was the last of her generation and she went so quickly. I still think of her everyday but have trained myself to put it out of my mind if I think I"m going to try. Not sure that's the healthiest way but it's my way. Took a full year before I went a day without crying. Yet still holidays are hard.

I've thought about how awful it would be if my son or husband died but I never thought about my parents dying. Don't know why.

Big hole.

Sorry for your loss. How is it they died so closely together? Were the causes related or was it just chance?

Lefta Dissenter

(6,622 posts)
19. Sarah
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 02:20 AM
Feb 2014

I'm so incredibly sorry for your loss and sorrow. You will always miss your parents, but it WILL get easier. Take the wise advice of others who have suggested meeting with a grief counselor. One little step at a time, one little inch at a time, you will begin to heal.

I'm just so, so sorry, and wish I had something brilliant and helpful to say. But just know that there a lot of people who care.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
22. I know it's hard as hell, Sarah, but please hang in there dear. I lost my mother
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 02:27 AM
Feb 2014

on October 13. She would have celebrated hers and Dad's 46th wedding anniversary on the 14th and would have been 67 years old on the 15th of October. She was mopping the kitchen floor one second and gone the next. It is very hard to be making funeral arrangements on those special days and Thanksgiving and Christmas were not happy.

Losing a parent is still fresh for some of us as it is for you so we know what you're going through and you are not alone. I am sorry you lost both of your parents so close together. At least for us we still have Dad and he still has us kids and we can help each other through losing mom.

I wish you all the best, Sarah. Try to stay strong and I'm here if you need to talk and DU will take you in with open arms and be here for you.

Paka

(2,760 posts)
24. So sorry to hear of your loss,
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 02:34 AM
Feb 2014

and the grief that it brings. I lost mine many years apart so to have a double blow so close together is hard to imagine. Healing wishes to you.

Sarah Ibarruri

(21,043 posts)
29. Thank you so much.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 02:48 AM
Feb 2014

It is a double blow. I'm so sorry for your losses. I do feel calmer now somehow, after having people reach out. It made me less anxious and calmer somehow. I appreciate it tremendously.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
33. Talking about it, and getting caring and loving support, helps tremendously.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 03:16 AM
Feb 2014

We're here for you as long as you need us, Sarah.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
25. That is so sad, to lose both parents so close to one another. I'm not sure how anyone can
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 02:37 AM
Feb 2014

cope with that. Only time can ease the pain and this is so soon. I am so sorry!


JI7

(89,241 posts)
27. from what some others who have experienced very personal loss have said
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 02:43 AM
Feb 2014

the first year will be your first holiday, month, etc without them.

and you lost both of them at the same time which would make it even more difficult. usually many would have one parent who will help and support each other in remembering the other parent .

also while valentines day may mostly be seen as a day with couples celebrating. the childhood memories are usually different and any thoughts of childhood will of course bring your parents to mind.



roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
28. its the worst fraternity. my parents died ten months apart several years ago and I am still
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 02:45 AM
Feb 2014

coming to grips with this. I will tell you that I spoke to a medium to find my way again. There will be those that tell you that is crazy but since i never met her and only spoke on the phone, the fact that she named my grandparents, one set of great grandparents, told me every private thing my parents and I shared as well as described the inside of my house to a tee, I can only tell you that if they are genuine, they will save your life. They did mine.

I wish you peace. I also want you to know that if talking to me off list will help you, one sudden orphan to another, I am here. You are not alone. You are still loved and now a stranger in Alaska loves you too. Love never dies. Never

Rv

progressoid

(49,951 posts)
31. That numb feeling.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 03:06 AM
Feb 2014

It serves a purpose. It protects you from that overwhelming pain. It seems unimaginable, but the pain will fade. Until then, we're here for you.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
32. I am so sorry you have suffered such a devastating
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 03:12 AM
Feb 2014

double loss. Life can be so unfair at times.

Take it one day at a time for now. Your parents would certainly want you to honor their memory but also to look to the future. My thoughts are vey much with you as you go through this difficult transition.

All the best ...LDA

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
34. your pain is still on the front burner of the stove at a moderate boil
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 03:18 AM
Feb 2014

eventually you will be able to move it to a back burner where it will not consume you so much. It will always be there, just not in the gut wrenching, tearing you apart searing pain kind of way that it is now. It will simmer and then sit on warm where you can visit it when needed but not live your life with a need to watch it boil.

Back burner will come

I am sorry for your loss and your pain. Perhaps they needed to be together. I know that they would not want you to live your life numb because it is better than the drop to your knees pain. Don't feel guilty letting them go. They are not gone, they will just be warming on that back burner.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
37. Ah, Sarah, I am so sorry. It's going to take a long, long time to get past it...
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 04:10 AM
Feb 2014

But in some ways you never will. I hope that you have some other family or friends who are staying close to give you some comfort now.



I am glad you felt free to come here and tell us.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
38. I haven't yet gone through this myself.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 04:19 AM
Feb 2014

I only know that Time does indeed heal. That's not much comfort when you're going through it, just something to remind yourself from time to time.

You're grieving as you should, and there will always be little (and big) things that remind you of them. I can't add anything else without sounding trite, so just know that you're loved here, too

DFW

(54,302 posts)
42. I have. Time does heal, but verrrrrry slowly.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:42 AM
Feb 2014

This is not something you get used to easily if you were at all close to your parents.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
44. Yeah, I can understand that, especially being close to them.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:54 AM
Feb 2014

My parents are in their early 80s, and starting to plan to move to an apartment, and sell off the land they live on now. I'll probably visit them next month and again when my GF visits. She loves them almost as much as I, so she'll be there for me when they're gone.

Of course, it's not something any of us want to think about while they're still with us...

DFW

(54,302 posts)
46. Mine never made it to 80.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 06:22 AM
Feb 2014

My dad's parents died in the sixties. Mine lived to 78 (dad) and 75 (mom) respectively. Both my parents and ALL of their siblings had cancer, and only one of them made it past 80 (and he now has cancer, too). So for me and my siblings, it's not a question of "if," but "when." One ray of hope--my maternal grandfather, who made it to 102 with all his marbles intact.

So, enjoy your parents while you can. The time for regrets afterwards goes on forever.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
47. 102!
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 06:34 AM
Feb 2014

I think if my parents lived that long, they might outlive me! Then again, and this is sometimes perplexing to me, my father was a petroleum engineer for Shell, working right in their plants here in Houston for almost all of his 35 years with them. And he doesn't have cancer, nor does anyone in our family. I think the land they live on now is keeping them healthy. I wish they'd just get a live-in nurse and stay there for the next couple of decades.

I do sometimes worry that when I get calls on my landline, that it's the call I don't want to hear. At least this past evening, the wrong number person wished me a happy Valentine's Day : )

DFW

(54,302 posts)
49. He sent out a Chrsitmas card when he was 99
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 07:08 AM
Feb 2014

It had a photo of him, looking very much his age.

Its caption was "Compliments of the seasoned."

Back in the mid sixties, when we were all driving through Washington DC, and the big issues of the day were the War on Poverty and the Population Explosion, he suddenly, out of the middle of nowhere, said he was going to start a War on Puberty to curb the Copulation Explosion. My mom, who was driving, was laughing so hard, she almost ran the car up the steps of the FBI building.

His wit was too powerful to leave this world earlier than age 102.

DFW

(54,302 posts)
69. It's sort of off key, and it won't help Sarah Ibarurri, but:
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 01:26 PM
Feb 2014

Maybe it will serve as a reminder that the good memories live on as long as we do, even if the loss is overpowering for the present.

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
39. I'm so sorry to hear that.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 04:33 AM
Feb 2014

You have my deepest sympathy for your profound loss. I was missing you, and wondering if anything had happened to you, but then I saw you post a couple of days ago, which let me know you were alive.

Valentine's day is over as I post my reply, but know that you aren't alone on any day here on DU.

bearssoapbox

(1,408 posts)
41. So sorry for your loss Sarah.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:29 AM
Feb 2014

Grieve. But take care of yourself. If it becomes overwhelming find someone to talk to. I never thought it would help me but it did.

Meanwhile, as you can see, you have the support and good thoughts of so many of us here at DU.

orleans

(34,042 posts)
43. my heart goes out to you. i simply can not imagine what it must be like to
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:43 AM
Feb 2014

go through losing both parents just days apart. i am so sorry you are going through this.

i know there is nothing i can say to make it better. but i will tell you when my dad passed (years ago) his church offered bereavement counseling to the families. my mom wouldn't go but i went. it was maybe 8 weeks (once or twice a week--i forget) and it seemed to really help me cope with his death.

i'm coming up on four years & four months since i lost my mom and it is still terribly difficult for me trying to adjust to my life without her physical presence.

i found the bereavement group here on du and check in there practically every day. it has been a comfort to me through this time/period.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1234

"Grief is the internal part of loss, how we feel. The internal work of grief is a process, a journey. It does not end on a certain day or date. It is as individual as each of us. Grief is real because loss is real. Each grief has its own imprint, as distinctive and as unique as the person we lost. The pain of loss is so intense, so heartbreaking, because in loving we deeply connect with another human being, and grief is the reflection of the connection that has been lost."
http://grief.com/

wishing you love and comfort in the days ahead.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
45. I am very, very sorry for your loss.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:57 AM
Feb 2014

I lost my Dad.. it's been around 20 years, now. I can't imagine what you're going through.

onethatcares

(16,163 posts)
51. you have my deepest sympathies
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 07:24 AM
Feb 2014

and I noticed that the dates you posted are the birthdates of my FIL and Father respectively.

What a coincidence

mnhtnbb

(31,374 posts)
52. I am so very sorry for your loss
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 07:33 AM
Feb 2014

and to have both parents go so close to each other...no wonder you are so sad and numb.

Do you keep a journal? I know that many writers are helped by journaling and maybe
writing down all the memories, feelings, thoughts that you have about your parents
may help you as you live through this awful grief and loss.

Just a thought. And if you are a reader, Meghan O'Rourke has written a beautiful memoir that you might find interesting.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/27/weekinreview/27grief.html?adxnnl=1&pagewanted=all&adxnnlx=1387883170-/kFF8UwbKrE0FSlwEfdcAw&_r=0

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
55. It's a horrible thing, I am so very very
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 08:58 AM
Feb 2014

Sorry. This will take time, and holidays will probably be the worst.

I wish I could hug you.

Justice

(7,185 posts)
56. My heart hurts for you, I am very sorry
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 09:01 AM
Feb 2014

Just know that you are not alone - there are many of us here who care about you and what you are going through. Perhaps you should talk with a counsellor or a member of the clergy, if that is something you believe in.

My own parents are elderly and one is very sick - I have been thinking about what they have given to me.

TBF

(32,013 posts)
57. Hugs for you Sarah -
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 09:02 AM
Feb 2014

I've only lost grandparents so far but my husband's parents passed within 8 months of each other. I think that happens with many older couples who have been together a very long time. I know it still hurts even though they led long lives, and I hope you are able to find someone to talk to about it. Is there a sibling or cousin who remembers them that you could talk to? It is hard keeping such pain inside. Lots of hugs for you.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
58. Honey, I am so so sorry for your losses.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 09:14 AM
Feb 2014

You must grieve and you must do it in your own way, in your own time and for as long you need to.

I lost my mom in October and the pain and feelings of loss are profound and disorienting, still.

It is a process, a journey and there is hope in that there will be healing.

I hope you have a companion to help comfort you, I hope you do not have to bear the worst of it alone.

and know you have many brothers and sisters here who understand and care.

arthritisR_US

(7,283 posts)
60. I am so sorry for what you are going through.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 09:57 AM
Feb 2014

Unfortunately I know too well how hard this day has been for you. This is the day set aside for love and the ones we love and cherish the most aren't here.

I've never had a father as mine deserted us when I was six days old so my Mum as always both to me. Losing her this past year has been excruciating and this day horribly so.

I know the tears because they seem a constant and when they are not there it's just because they are at bay. I know in my heart that things will get better. Know this, you are not alone and we are thinking of you and sending you love and warm hugs. Please take care of yourself

CrispyQ

(36,424 posts)
62. My deepest sympathies.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 10:59 AM
Feb 2014
I can't imagine losing both parents within days of each other. I am so, so sorry.

There is a bereavement group on DU. http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1234

PasadenaTrudy

(3,998 posts)
64. I'm an orphan too...
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 11:25 AM
Feb 2014

The hardest loss has been my sister, back in 2010. Pancreatic cancer, gone a month after finding it. I still can't look at a photo of her without breaking down. So, I know exactly what you are going through, if it helps. It just sucks.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
65. I feel your pain...this is something I will be facing too
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 11:29 AM
Feb 2014

I'm always bracing myself but in reality I can't imagine, I am so sorry for your pain....a

question everything

(47,437 posts)
67. Perhpas you can get solace in this thought
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 11:50 AM
Feb 2014

Neither of them had to suffer the loss of the other and continue living alone.

I think that many couples who have been together many years cannot imagine continue living without the other.

Grieve to them as long and as hard as you need. We each grieve in our own way. Mostly, though cherish the memories. Cherish the love that they gave you and that you acutely feel on Valentine Day. These are the forever lasting gifts that they gave you.

May their memories be blessed.


babydollhead

(2,231 posts)
68. what I learned from grief
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 12:09 PM
Feb 2014

1. it comes in waves. you get breaks. If you find your self laughing, or thinking happy thoughts, you do not have to remind yourself to be sad. allow the breaks. the waves of loss and separation will find you. The breaks are where the healing is too.

2.the separation is a myth.

3. If the heavy feelings are how it feels to have a visit from them, feel it.

4. They do not have to miss you.

5. Death ends a life but not a relationship.

6. My acupuncturist told me, one parent is behind each shoulder, always with you.

7. here is a hug. you are not alone.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
70. Dear Sarah, give yourself a minimum of two years
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 01:44 PM
Feb 2014

Be gentle with yourself. Don't be brave....wimp out of battles that don't absolutely need to be fought. And if there's a battle that must be fought, you can fight dirty with your grief. It's allowed.

Losing both parents in such a short time, it may take you four years, but you will survive. Keep the best of your parents alive, and be glad for their gifts to you. Forgive the rest.

You aren't alone.

senseandsensibility

(16,931 posts)
71. I have no words of comfort
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 01:48 PM
Feb 2014

but I am glad that you are able to verbalize your loss and reach out to your DU friends. You are not alone, and I hope things improve for you as time passes.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
73. Your post resonated with my own personal situation.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 03:29 PM
Feb 2014

I wish I could give you a hug IRL. Sometimes, it's all we can give back...but often it's just the right thing.

PsychGrad

(239 posts)
74. As others said...
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 04:08 PM
Feb 2014

It is hard to be an orphan, no matter our age. I lost one parent to murder and another to a car accident - both at very young ages. Sometimes, the universe is so very cruel in its randomness. I wish you peace and comfort and know that you are not alone in your grief or wishing for them to come back. I find comfort in writing my memories down and dreaming of them with the grandchildren they never knew or met. And in reminiscing about them with family and friends who also knew them for their short times on this earth. My thoughts are with you - cry and grieve as much as your body tells you that you need to - the only way through it is through it - there is no way around it.

Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
76. I am so sorry for your loss
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 04:42 PM
Feb 2014

I, too, have lost both of my parents. And holidays are the worst.

It never goes away, it just becomes manageable (the sadness). And I try really hard not to be jealous of folks my age who have one or both parents still around.

I just want to give you a hug-I know it is too soon to say 'it'll get better' but it does.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
77. I lost my parents exactly 6 weeks apart, so I know what you are going through.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 04:47 PM
Feb 2014

It is never easy, but to lose them so close together is incredibly painful.

I resented it when people told me there would come a day when I wouldn't think of them. It took a while, but it finally did arrive. Having Mom's dishes and Dad's family items reminds me every day as I walk through the rooms that they are gone, but still here. I smile.

One of the best comments was from a woman whose mother lived with them for years. She said it was hard to give up her mother, but then she remembered how her mother would go out on the front porch after supper, sit on the rocker and enjoy the evening breeze. She said she pictures her being beyond the lace curtain...not with her, but not far away. For some reason, that was very comforting and I was able to move on from there.

One day at a time.

TheOther95Percent

(1,035 posts)
79. I'm so very sorry for your loss.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 06:34 PM
Feb 2014

I dealt with similar feelings when I lost my parents. It doesn't matter how long you have your parents. You always want more time. There is, if your experience is like mine, little solace to be had in the first year. Even the minor holidays and events (Sunday dinner, watching the Oscars, the opening home game in baseball) evoked painful feelings and longing. I can't tell you that it won't be difficult. I can promise you that it does get better. There will come a time when you can think of your parents without crying. There will be a day when a cherished memory brings a smile to your face. Until that time, be kind and gentle with yourself. I wish you peace.

leftieNanner

(15,067 posts)
81. Oh, Sarah,
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 06:39 PM
Feb 2014

I am so very sorry for your loss. My parents died three weeks apart in 2008 and it still hurts. They are in my heart and in my life all the time. I know that it doesn't help much at this point to tell you that in time, it will be less painful. But you will have their love touching you every minute of every day. Allow yourself to grieve fully, and a little while from now you will think of them and smile.


Theyletmeeatcake2

(348 posts)
83. I can't imagine how you feel but my heart goes out to you...
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 06:57 PM
Feb 2014

I've lost both my parents 15 years apart and still miss them...you get periods of time when you just think it's so unfair but you have to realise that you were lucky to have them and think positively ... I had a dream after my mother passed over that I came home and she was there at the sink washing dishes and I said mum "you can't be here "and she said "no one needs to know" .i don't know what it meant but i always tear up when I remember it. All the best wishes and just remember the good stuff...it gets easier eventually ...I hope you have other family members to make it easier for you....again all the best

Drew Richards

(1,558 posts)
86. I too have been in that sad place but take heart, the hurt fades and the love remains.as I sit here
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 07:37 PM
Feb 2014

Crying with you.

vankuria

(904 posts)
91. I'm so very sorry
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 07:47 PM
Feb 2014

It's tough to lose your parents and doing so just a few days apart, I can't even imagine. I lost my dad in '02 and mom 9yrs. later and I still grieve for them both, my mom in particular because we were so close, she was my best friend. Grieving is a very personal journey and no one can really tell you how to do this but remember there are no rules, no timetables and don't let anyone tell you what you should be doing.

I hope you find some solace in the sweet memories of your parents and their memory gives you strength to go on. Best of luck to you.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
92. I lost my dad three years ago
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 07:48 PM
Feb 2014

My older brother in November. It does get different, but the pain does subside.

Hugs.

LoisB

(7,185 posts)
93. My tears started as I looked at the dates. I am so very sorry. The pain does
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 08:15 PM
Feb 2014

eventually become less sharp until something happens and you say to yourself "wow, I've got to tell Mom/Dad (in my case my friend Darral) about this". Please take care of yourself and talk about it - don't hold it in.

duggie99

(40 posts)
94. The Love of Parents
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 08:25 PM
Feb 2014

No one in your life loves you as unconditionally as your parents. Not your kids, spouse, friends or any other person in your life. Mine have been gone a few years and had them for a very long time. You learn to live without them but there is an emptiness that never goes away



Sarah Ibarruri

(21,043 posts)
95. Thank you
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 08:43 PM
Feb 2014

Last edited Sun Feb 16, 2014, 12:49 AM - Edit history (1)

Thank you so much for everything that all of you have all said to reassure me, and how much you’ve shared with me. Last night was the worst day yet, though the truth is that I haven’t stopped crying since they passed.

My dad, a very vital man, went in for surgery on 11/8/13, a surgery that was supposed to go well. Within the first 10 minutes, everything started going wrong, and the doctors panicked and kept trying to resolve the problems, doing this and that, and it just got worse. I can’t describe my despair at that moment. But then, the doctors came out to where the family was and told us that dad was gone. Of course I didn’t believe it. Not my dad. It simply could not be true. I was in a state of shock. The shock and the fear that I felt immediately caused me to look at my mom. She was sitting on a wheelchair because she had atrial fibrillation and walking around the huge hospital exhausted her. She hung her head down when she heard and began to sob and sob. At that moment, time stood still. We were all frozen, and unable to speak. I knew the bottom had fallen out of our lives.

The hospital allowed us to spend time with my dad’s body. We kissed him and talked to him. We were beside ourselves with grief, disbelieving what was happening. My poor mom, I was so worried something would happen to her. Her heart was frail. My sister and I resolved to not leave her alone even one second. We sucked up our grief and started making the arrangements for the funeral, while making sure that mom was okay, and so we all moved in with my sister for a few days to keep the family together and try to be supportive to mom.

Two days later, mom went to bed. My sister and I were on either side of her, talking to her to get her to fall asleep. She lay her head down and closed her eyes. My sister and I breathed a sigh of relief. In our despair, we were genuinely scared of losing her. About a minute after she lay her head down and closed her eyes, and seemed to be sleeping, she began to breathe too deeply, so I ran, practically falling over myself, to call emergency. We tried waking her up and could not. When EMS arrived, they told us her heart had stopped beating. There’s more but I can’t continue telling more of this. It's simply too much.

That night I slept on the bed mom died in, and for 2 weeks after that. I wanted to and needed to.

These days I'm preparing a box of my mom and dad's memories. The last clothes they wore, mom’s purse, his wallet, the last shoes they wore, dad’s poems of love to mom, the bracelets I bought mom... I need to preserve many of their things, I need to. Things are all I have left now.

How does one deal with it, when one’s heart is being torn out of one’s chest missing them? I’m going to take Mother’s Day and Father’s Day off. I cannot even imagine what to do on those days, but I can’t picture handling work then, or anything else.

Still, everything I heard from all of you has helped me cope, given me strength, and helped me to deal with last night. I didn’t think Valentine’s Day would do me in the way it did. I went to a dinner last night with friends, but when I came home, it was as if the world had fallen down on me – I just couldn’t deal with mom and dad being gone. I needed to talk to them so much.

So thank you to all of you who shared with me what you had gone through and are going through, gave me ideas, and kept me from going crazy, and thank you for letting me vent the pain. It has helped a lot.

vankuria

(904 posts)
103. Thank-you for sharing your story...
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 10:49 PM
Feb 2014

I know it must've been hard for you to write this. Sounds like you have a very loving and supportive family and can lean on each other in your grief. I've held onto many of my Mom& Dad's possessions as well. In my living room I have a corner with a shelf with my fav pix of my Mom, her jewelry box, and special momentos. Also a table with fav pix of my dad. I also made scrapbooks of my parents to share with younger family members so Mom & Dad will always be remembered.

The best way I've found to honor my parents memory is to live my life the best way I know how, to live by their values, take care of our family and live everyday to make them proud. I hope you find solace and comfort in your memories and please remember it will get easier. I wish you well.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
114. This so touching and personal
Sun Feb 16, 2014, 01:33 AM
Feb 2014

Your family must have been incredibly close. They are together. And they didn't suffer. They would want you to know they are fine and it is okay to move on when you are ready. How difficult to lose them unexpectedly and so close together. It takes a piece of you. Don't let it be too big.

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
97. Sarah, I felt so much like you describe
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 09:03 PM
Feb 2014

when my mother was killed suddenly in a car wreck. My dad was driving the car, but, thankfully, my dad turned out ok in the long run (after 7 months in the hospital).

But my mother's death was so deeply devastating to me. It's been 34 years now since she died, but it remains one of the biggest hurdles I have ever had to get over in my life. Mother's Day was the worst for me.....and as stupid as it sounds, it still is.

I can so identify with your deep grief, and I wish there was something someone could do to help take away your pain. All of us here would do it if we could, I'm sure. Just know that my heart goes out to you, and I wish you comfort of every sort.

deek

(3,414 posts)
98. Heartbreaking
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 09:08 PM
Feb 2014

My father passed 15 years ago. I lost my mother 12/23/14 and am still trying to come to grips with it. I can't imagine losing both my parents at the same time.

Hugs to you.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
99. My mother died in September 1965 when I was 20, my father 9 months later in 1966 when I was 21.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 09:16 PM
Feb 2014

Their deaths bracketed my senior year in college.

Time blunts the pain, but I miss them still. I have no advice for you, know of nothing that can really make it easier. My heart goes out to you. I wish I could be there to hug you and tell you you're not alone.

My deepest sympathy.
Jim

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
100. I'm so sorry, Sarah...
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 09:21 PM
Feb 2014
My mother passed a few years ago, so I know the emptiness and sorrow you are feeling. I felt the same way. I thought the loss would consume me forever. It took many months, but I finally was able to move on in my life without her. Soon, your memories of them will take the place of the sadness. You will begin to think of all the good times you had together. And when you do this, smiles will replace your tears and sadness.
Hang in there. If you get to where you can't work or put one foot in front of the other, reach out for help.
Someone like clergy or your family doctor.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
101. Im a so sorry for your lost...(((hugs))) and more (((hugs)))
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 09:46 PM
Feb 2014

Both my parents are gone . i think of them daily.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
108. Keeping you in my thoughts
Sun Feb 16, 2014, 12:03 AM
Feb 2014

You face the daunting task of starting over after such a profound loss. Henry Ellis once said: “All the art of living lies in a fine mingling of letting go and holding on.” Only time will help heal the raw wounds you are feeling, and one day you will find your memories of them will bring comfort instead of pain.

dinger130

(199 posts)
111. There will come a night,
Sun Feb 16, 2014, 01:11 AM
Feb 2014

when getting ready to go to sleep, you will realize that you didn't cry that day. That will be the beginning of the healing.

Having been through this hell, walking long distances everyday helped and keepng in touch with friends on a daily basis got me through the depression.

Memento Vivere: Remember to live

Violet_Crumble

(35,955 posts)
113. I'm so sorry, Sarah. I can't even begin to imagine how it feels...
Sun Feb 16, 2014, 01:16 AM
Feb 2014

I know it'll happen and I dread that it will, but even without knowing how it feels, yr post brought me to tears....

I hope it eventually starts to get better for you

pablo_marmol

(2,375 posts)
115. My heart is with you, Sarah.
Sun Feb 16, 2014, 01:52 AM
Feb 2014

My Mom passed Nov. 14th '13. That was tough enough, but the fact that she was my surviving parent (Dad passed in '06) made it all that much rougher. I essentially mourned my Dad's passing all over again, it seemed, as I mourned her departure.

I could relate to every single word you've spoken here, and wish you as much comfort as possible in 2014.


calimary

(81,125 posts)
116. Awww… Sarah, thank you for sharing this painful time with us here.
Sun Feb 16, 2014, 07:03 AM
Feb 2014

Makes me think of something Skittles said once - "someone's always here." This is a good place to discuss and ponder and just sort of be with it. A whole bunch of us are here being with it - with you. You do not mourn alone. Many shoulders for you to lean on here.

Having lost both my parents, I can sympathize. I think many of us here have gone through that, when you reach for the phone and you see your finger automatically starting to punch out that phone number. It was such a reflex I found I didn't even think about. My finger always knew which number to push next. And I always knew how they were gonna answer the phone, what their voices did and said and sounded like. And then it's just not there anymore.

It isn't easy. Holidays always are the worst. And the first of all of these moments is the worst. People told me the first year full of occasions is the most difficult. I always think about the AA proverb: "one day at a time." That's pretty much what is. It's all you have, and it's actually a LOT. Just get through the next hour. And then the next. Just get through the next day. And then the next. Your work on this needn't be any more than that. Seems to me now is the time to be super gentle with yourself. SUPER gentle. Because you're still healing. and you'll be healing for a long time.

And it'll take how-ever long it takes. Don't let anyone rush you or pressure you or put expectations on you about how you should be getting over it by now. Don't even let YOU put any expectations on you. It'll take whatever time it takes. Be good to yourself and gentle with yourself, and come here when you feel shaky. Someone's always here. And there's LOTS of heart here. It's good that you're here. This is an excellent and loving support group. DU will buoy you up.

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