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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 10:43 AM Feb 2014

Please don't tell me this miserable miscreant is going to walk.

Please don't tell me that in our America you can shoot into a SUV full of teenagers and murder one, leave the scene, never report the crime,go back to your hotel, order a pizza, and walk...

Please...

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Please don't tell me this miserable miscreant is going to walk. (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 OP
One idiotic racist juror is all it takes. nt Logical Feb 2014 #1
Then it hangs. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2014 #17
At this point I refuse to believe that is possible etherealtruth Feb 2014 #3
Not in Florida, they live by a different "justice" system SummerSnow Feb 2014 #4
What that? Boom Sound 416 Feb 2014 #6
When the George Zimmermans, and the Casey Anthonys SummerSnow Feb 2014 #8
Casey Anthony was a tougher case to prove than one might think at first glance. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2014 #11
I see your point about Anthony but plenty of people have been convicted of murder.... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #13
There were lower charges to consider for Anthony bettyellen Feb 2014 #22
Maybe you should broaden your scope a little Boom Sound 416 Feb 2014 #14
I know .... etherealtruth Feb 2014 #7
You're preaching to the choir .I totally agree with you. SummerSnow Feb 2014 #9
Yeah, we are in agreement on this etherealtruth Feb 2014 #10
Based on jury questions, it seems likely. JaneyVee Feb 2014 #5
I just saw a news clip of the judge answering the jury questions etherealtruth Feb 2014 #15
If he walks on the murder avebury Feb 2014 #12
Are you white? rock Feb 2014 #16
I "Are" White AND I Live In Flor--EEEE-Duh! ChiciB1 Feb 2014 #21
It's Florida edhopper Feb 2014 #18
prophetic Boom Sound 416 Feb 2014 #19
two words: 'george' 'zimmerman' spanone Feb 2014 #20

Response to Logical (Reply #1)

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
3. At this point I refuse to believe that is possible
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 10:55 AM
Feb 2014

(hope springs eternal). I know we have a horribly racists criminal justice system ... but, I am still holding on to the belief that truth and justice is possible

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
8. When the George Zimmermans, and the Casey Anthonys
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 11:10 AM
Feb 2014

of this world can walk. Then it has to be questioned. Now if this man walks I think there is a pattern of corrupt judges in that state.Something is seriously wrong in Florida.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,164 posts)
11. Casey Anthony was a tougher case to prove than one might think at first glance.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 11:19 AM
Feb 2014

Because the exact manner of death was not known and could not be proven. I think Anthony definitely was involved in at least some way in her daughter's death, but because we don't know how her daughter died, it made proving her guilt on the homicide charges nearly impossible.


George Zimmerman should be sitting in Raiford as we speak, but he took advantage of a legal loophole that got him off. The jury was not allowed to be instructed to consider whether Zimmerman's own actions precipitated the shooting. Plus you had Juror B37 who I think had preconceived notions of what happened and should not have been allowed on the jury.

But these aren't problems necessarily specific to Florida.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
13. I see your point about Anthony but plenty of people have been convicted of murder....
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 11:24 AM
Feb 2014

I see your point about Anthony but plenty of people have been convicted of murder without a corpus delicti.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
22. There were lower charges to consider for Anthony
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 01:01 PM
Feb 2014

Something lower like neglect- but jurors came out and complained they had to find for murder or let her off. They were wrong- and derelict in their duty to have never considered all the charges. Idiots.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
7. I know ....
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 11:08 AM
Feb 2014

....but, i refuse to acknowledge that a 'not guilty' on the most egregious charges is even possible. To do that all of the jurors would have to lack basic humanity.

If (iff) that occurs I will flip out ... but, until then I am holding on to the belief that they will do the right thing.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
9. You're preaching to the choir .I totally agree with you.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 11:12 AM
Feb 2014

I just can't see him walking. But I felt the same way about the Casey Anthony case . In total disbelief that she walked.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
10. Yeah, we are in agreement on this
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 11:18 AM
Feb 2014

... The Trayvon Martin murder pushed me over the edge .... but (again), I am holding out hope

avebury

(10,952 posts)
12. If he walks on the murder
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 11:22 AM
Feb 2014

trial is just confirms what everyone knows. If you want to murder someone, Florida is the state to live in.

I do know that there are some good people in Florida but there are also a lot of bad laws and murderers as well.

I am a white person and it makes me so angry that there is any group of people in this country that gets so little justice. There is no equal protection and justice under the law.

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
21. I "Are" White AND I Live In Flor--EEEE-Duh!
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 12:38 PM
Feb 2014

This constant killing with people walking is making me insane! The SYG Law was and outrage to me from the first time I heard about it. Now, after many, many killings (there are so many people don't know about) IF this arrogant, bigoted, obnoxious holier than thou piece of crap walks... THE LAW WILL NEVER GO AWAY!!

I AM SO AFRAID! My stomach is in knots just waiting. Not one to watch trials per se, but these trials using SYG are serious business.

I won't be a hypocrite and ask for prayers or say I'm praying because of my religious views, but I know my heart is in the right place. This man is a danger and every time we let one like him walk away with a very light sentence, we continue to send all the wrong messages!

I don't support the death penalty, but life without parole would require him to face endless days without freedom. Sure he can adjust to the system, but I'm sure most of us don't want to live behind bars for the rest of our lives!

PLEASE, please don't let him walk. Saw the clip from his neighbors and they had nothing good to say about him. I'm sure his family loves him, but what he did deserves NO LOVE!

edhopper

(33,554 posts)
18. It's Florida
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 12:27 PM
Feb 2014

the State shaped like a penis and a gun, anything can happen.
Of course if it was reversed and the victim was white and the accused black, he would already be serving time.

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