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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 02:15 PM Feb 2014

Fla. Teen Jailed for Same-Sex Relationship With Underage Girlfriend Ready to ‘Move On’

A Florida teen's sexual relationship with her underage high school girlfriend made national headlines and culminated with her serving time behind bars.

"Now I just want to put it all behind me," Kaitlyn Hunt said exclusively to ABC News' Matt Gutman after her release from jail. "I want to stay out of trouble. I want to do the right thing, and then get it over with, so I can move on with my life."

The 19-year-old was released this past December shortly before Christmas from Indian River County Jail, in Vero Beach, Fla., where she had been locked up for 120 days.

Hunt was originally sent to the county jail for violating a judge's order to not contact her girlfriend. In October, she accepted a plea offer that kept her locked up for an additional two months.

...

Hunt's mother claimed that the prosecutor and the younger girl's family were motivated in part by an anti-gay bias.

"We have people that are homophobes," Hunt Smith said. "It's not something they're willing to allow their daughter to express. It's not something that they're willing to accept."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/fla-teen-jailed-sex-relationship-underage-girlfriend-ready/story?id=22504595&singlePage=true

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Fla. Teen Jailed for Same-Sex Relationship With Underage Girlfriend Ready to ‘Move On’ (Original Post) The Straight Story Feb 2014 OP
I really don't understand why she contacted her against the judges orders. bravenak Feb 2014 #1
Because some criminals simply don't learn. How the mother escaped charges I will never know. nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #2
Yeah, the mother is a real piece of work. NaturalHigh Feb 2014 #11
Plus, Ms. Hunt's messages read as very manipulative. tammywammy Feb 2014 #21
Manipulative and inappropriate...the revocation affidavit was stunning. msanthrope Feb 2014 #22
Ah, yes, that's what I remembered. tammywammy Feb 2014 #32
Because 18 is still a kid, and kids do stupid things. Luckily, she's bright and happy and looking ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #4
So they don't care if she has sex with a boy? bravenak Feb 2014 #7
It appears that way. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #8
I'll love my daughters no matter what. I'm cool like that.:) bravenak Feb 2014 #10
I don't either, and I recently had to deal with that myself. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #12
I agree. bravenak Feb 2014 #13
You know...you stun me. You are a mother? And yet you talk about a minor victim of a sex msanthrope Feb 2014 #25
I'm pretty uncomfortable discussing the sex life of a minor who is the victim of a sexual assault msanthrope Feb 2014 #17
Yeah ,you're right ,it's pretty gross. bravenak Feb 2014 #24
I followed this case extensively. Read this thread, and see who can cite their claims...and who msanthrope Feb 2014 #26
I see that. bravenak Feb 2014 #27
Ah...you're doing just fine. nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #30
Massive red flag there LittleBlue Feb 2014 #14
I'd like to see a source on that, and frankly, I'm disgusted that a minor victim of a sexual msanthrope Feb 2014 #16
Can you source your claim on that? Ms. Hunt's new girlfriend has a police record for domestic msanthrope Feb 2014 #15
But the girl is nearly two years older Yo_Mama Feb 2014 #23
All indications were that she was an immature 18 year old LadyHawkAZ Feb 2014 #6
I've always thought it was crazy to put kids in jail for having sex. bravenak Feb 2014 #9
Ther perp was 18, not a kid. TransitJohn Feb 2014 #28
This is why I said I should shut up. bravenak Feb 2014 #31
I'm just old enough to remember when being 18 was still legally considered "being a kid"... 1monster Feb 2014 #34
I agree proudretiredvet Feb 2014 #29
Doing interviews with ABC news pintobean Feb 2014 #3
They asked for a followup. She complied. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #5
I'm still waiting for you, upthread, to source your claim about the minor sexual assault victim. msanthrope Feb 2014 #19
Those laws often persecute the wrong people. TheMathieu Feb 2014 #18
Oh...they got the right one here. nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #20
Hasn't she been labeld a sexual predator? If so, it will never be behind her. Those tags 1monster Feb 2014 #33
 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
1. I really don't understand why she contacted her against the judges orders.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 02:23 PM
Feb 2014

That was stupid. I had a friend in high school who was a fifth year senior and he was 18, his girlfriend was 15. Her parents called the police when they found out they were sleeping together. He got 2 years with 1 suspended, served 6 months, and has to register as a sex offender. They are married to this day, and he's never even been with another woman to my knowledge. They were high school sweethearts and went to homecoming together.

We need to fix the laws, and give the judges more discretion in cases of teenagers having consensual sex.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
11. Yeah, the mother is a real piece of work.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 03:40 PM
Feb 2014

I don't understand why she wasn't charged with witness tampering, at the very least.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
21. Plus, Ms. Hunt's messages read as very manipulative.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 04:03 PM
Feb 2014

You want me to go to jail, etc. I think people are still buying what the Hunt's were trying to sell, that the other girl's parents are homophobic. A lot of what the Hunt's were saying weren't true, Kaitlyn want arrested right after she turned 18, and not even right after the other girl's parents found out.

I'm also surprised about Kaitlyn's mother's actions. She should be taking her lucky stars she wasn't charged with tampering with a witness.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
22. Manipulative and inappropriate...the revocation affidavit was stunning.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 04:18 PM
Feb 2014
http://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/160537961?width=800

And this text from the mother to the victim was quite interesting...


I don’t want you to think I’m judgement [sic] or anything like that, but I 100% never supported this and I told Kate that. I am a Christian and I have a faith in God, so for me I don’t believe it’s right or what god intended. But, I have a cousin who recently came out being lesbian and I don’t love her any less. I hope that makes sense to u. But I told Kate I didn’t approve. I told her I didn’t feel like she was gay, and I felt like she needed to go talk to a counselor about her issues with her Dad, I told her that you were too young to be having this type of relationship and I didn’t think it was healthy.”


http://www.viralread.com/2013/11/25/kaitlyn-hunt-homophobia-teen-lesbian-crime-documents/

The sad thing is that many conservative sites have latched onto this case...the Hunts are liars.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
4. Because 18 is still a kid, and kids do stupid things. Luckily, she's bright and happy and looking
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 03:07 PM
Feb 2014

forward to the future... Unfortunately, I cannot say the same for the poor girl being raised by parents who objected to her girlfriend. This girl is dating a boy now... who is the exact same age that Kaitlyn is... yeah there was no anti-gay bias there.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
7. So they don't care if she has sex with a boy?
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 03:28 PM
Feb 2014

But if it's a girl it's prison time? Must want grand babies real bad. Some people just shouldn't have kids. They're too stupid.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
8. It appears that way.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 03:31 PM
Feb 2014

She started dating him after Kaitlyn went to jail. I fear for her mental health. People can dislike Kaitlyn's mother, but she supports, loves, and defends her daughter at every turn--no matter who she loves. We need more parents like that.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
10. I'll love my daughters no matter what. I'm cool like that.:)
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 03:35 PM
Feb 2014

She's going to need more than just her mother. I'm a believer in support groups. They really help.
I don't understand parents trying to control their kids sexuality, makes no sense. I'm worried about the girl whose parents called the police. Sounds like she has a hard home life, with domineering parents.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
12. I don't either, and I recently had to deal with that myself.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 03:42 PM
Feb 2014

Realizing my teenager wasn't my "baby boy" anymore.

I am extremely worried about the girl whose parents called police in. That isn't how one should deal with a situation right off the bat for starters. Her mother runs a "manners school." Think cotillion and you've got it. They don't come across as anything other than judgmental bigots in their interviews.

Happy to report, Kaitlyn has a new gf (her age, for those looking to get her in trouble ) and appears to have grown up during this ordeal (which never should have happened).

We need to change the laws. We can't expect 18 year olds to attend high school and not have these events happen.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
25. You know...you stun me. You are a mother? And yet you talk about a minor victim of a sex
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 04:38 PM
Feb 2014

crime in a manner that is simple breathtaking, while refusing to cite a single one of your claims.

Can you cite any of your claims?

Here's a text for you to chew on...



"I dDn’t want you to think I’m judgement [sic] or anything like that, but I 100% never supported this and I told Kate that. I am a Christian and I have a faith in God, so for me I don’t believe it’s right or what god intended. But, I have a cousin who recently came out being lesbian and I don’t love her any less. I hope that makes sense to u. But I told Kate I didn’t approve. I told her I didn’t feel like she was gay, and I felt like she needed to go talk to a counselor about her issues with her Dad, I told her that you were too young to be having this type of relationship and I didn’t think it was healthy.”

http://www.viralread.com/2013/11/25/kaitlyn-hunt-homophobia-teen-lesbian-crime-documents/



That text is from Kaitlyn Hunt's mother, as she contacted the minor her daughter assaulted.
 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
17. I'm pretty uncomfortable discussing the sex life of a minor who is the victim of a sexual assault
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 03:54 PM
Feb 2014

without at least some attributable source.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
26. I followed this case extensively. Read this thread, and see who can cite their claims...and who
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 04:41 PM
Feb 2014

can't.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
14. Massive red flag there
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 03:47 PM
Feb 2014

what with the parents letting her date a boy the same age. One could easily believe this was more about their daughter's sexual orientation rather than age.

This smacks of Christian "therapy" for gay people.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
16. I'd like to see a source on that, and frankly, I'm disgusted that a minor victim of a sexual
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 03:52 PM
Feb 2014

assault is even being discussed in this manner.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
15. Can you source your claim on that? Ms. Hunt's new girlfriend has a police record for domestic
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 03:51 PM
Feb 2014

violence and drug charges, but I haven't heard anything about the minor victim of the sexual assault.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
23. But the girl is nearly two years older
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 04:32 PM
Feb 2014

At 14 she was below the age of consent to have sex with an 18 year old when this relationship started, and still 15 when the violation of court order occurred. She'll be 16 this spring if I remember correctly.

In FL, an 18 year old boy can't have sex with a 14 year old girl either.

I don't think it is fair to accuse the other family of homophobia, because I'd guess that if they had found out that if their 14 year-old kid had been having sex in a school bathroom with an 18 year-old boy, they'd have done the same, especially after the "night out" incident.

I hate to put it this way, but in my experience parents are less likely to get agitated by same-sex flings at that age because of the pregnancy issue which is bypassed when it is two girls. But out-of-control stuff like this at that age isn't a good sign and very few "good" parents would allow their 14 or 15 year old to be out all night without permission regardless of WHO the kid was with, much less an older romance. I'm sorry, that's just completely effed-up.

A LOT of boys are prosecuted for underage relationships. It just doesn't become big news.



LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
6. All indications were that she was an immature 18 year old
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 03:13 PM
Feb 2014

and teenagers in love aren't always the brightest bulbs in the box. She acted like teenagers act.

I agree that more leniency is needed, although I think it needs to be codified rather than left up to judges.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
9. I've always thought it was crazy to put kids in jail for having sex.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 03:31 PM
Feb 2014

Now we arrest them for taking pictures of themselves and posting them. Having nude pics all over the internet is punishment enough for a kid.

TransitJohn

(6,932 posts)
28. Ther perp was 18, not a kid.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 04:54 PM
Feb 2014

If it had been a boy that was 18, he'd be doing serious time. 120 days ain't shit for rape.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
31. This is why I said I should shut up.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:07 PM
Feb 2014

I still don't know why she had to keep contacting the other girl after the judge ordered her to leave her alone. And the mother helping her makes me wonder why she didn't go to jail.
I don't know enough, and should just shut up. So here it goes.

1monster

(11,012 posts)
34. I'm just old enough to remember when being 18 was still legally considered "being a kid"...
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 06:27 PM
Feb 2014

Twenty-one was when one reached one's majority.

That law was changed because of the Vietnam War and the draft. I seem to remember the slogan, "Old enough to die for their country, but not old enough to vote."

Eighteen year olds are not mentally, emotionally, or pshyically adults -- they have a long way to go on all counts. Scientific studies say that adolescence lasts until about twenty-five years old...

Perhaps our legal system should find a way to reognize that.

 

proudretiredvet

(312 posts)
29. I agree
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:00 PM
Feb 2014

He is now collared with the Sex Offender label for the rest of his life in exactly the same way that a child rapist is. This is wrong.
Even if statutory rape laws do apply there should not be any automatics of minimum sentences mandated to the judge. Judges should be allowed to judge each and every case.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
5. They asked for a followup. She complied.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 03:08 PM
Feb 2014

People aren't allowed to do that when their case draws national attention?

I am super happy for her.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
19. I'm still waiting for you, upthread, to source your claim about the minor sexual assault victim.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 03:59 PM
Feb 2014

Could you at least link to your claims?

As for being happy for Ms. Hunt, her current new girlfriend has a police record of domestic assault on a teen, and drug charges. I'd be concerned for her.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/kaitlyn-hunt-jailed-underaged-sex-dating-older-woman-article-1.1615514

 

TheMathieu

(456 posts)
18. Those laws often persecute the wrong people.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 03:56 PM
Feb 2014

If we don't make them more complex than arbitrary numbers, then this kind of thing will keep happening.

1monster

(11,012 posts)
33. Hasn't she been labeld a sexual predator? If so, it will never be behind her. Those tags
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 06:16 PM
Feb 2014

are a life sentence, sometimes deserved, sometimes not.

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