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babylonsister

(171,029 posts)
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 03:09 PM Feb 2014

Medicare drug plan changes a win for patients, taxpayers

February 15, 2014, 08:00 am
Medicare drug plan changes a win for patients, taxpayers

By B. Douglas Hoey, RPh, MBA


Overshadowed by the daily drumbeat of news concerning the Affordable Care Act, Medicare has outlined several enhancements to Part D prescription drug plans (PDPs) that would address bipartisan congressional concerns, give seniors more choices and reduce the program’s costs by an estimated $1.3 billion over five years.

Seniors will benefit in several ways from the proposed rule issued by the U.S. Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS).

First, Medicare’s proposal offers more choice of pharmacy for the same co-pay. Currently, whether they like it or not, many seniors are steered toward those pharmacies that their drug plan has arbitrarily deemed “preferred pharmacies.” The excluded, non-preferred pharmacies are contractually obligated by these drug plans to charge higher co-pays. CMS is proposing letting any pharmacy willing to accept a drug plan’s terms and conditions (including reimbursement rate) to offer “preferred cost-sharing”. Seniors would have greater choice among pharmacies at no added cost. This will particularly benefit seniors in underserved rural areas that often include an independent community pharmacy, but from which the nearest preferred pharmacy may be 20 miles away or more. Medicare officials concluded that this approach is “the best way to encourage price competition and lower costs in the Part D program.”

Second, Medicare’s proposal would let more seniors choose between community pharmacies and mail order ones without penalty. Many seniors prefer talking to a pharmacist face-to-face when they want to, rather than waiting for drugs by mail and dealing with 1-800 call centers. CMS proposes to eliminate some higher co-pays for seniors who prefer to use a community pharmacy, many of which provide same-day, home delivery. This change is also budget-neutral, because Medicare data has shown that mail order is often more expensive for Medicare and taxpayers than local pharmacies.

Third, Medicare’s proposal would give more patients access to cost-saving medication therapy management (MTM) consultations with pharmacists.CMS suggests expanding the eligibility criteria for MTM consultations. These in-depth medication reviews have been shown to help improve health outcomes and reduce overall medical costs by improving adherence to prescribed medication and avoiding costlier treatments, such as hospitalizations.

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http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/healthcare/198487-medicare-drug-plan-changes-a-win-for-patients-taxpayers

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loudsue

(14,087 posts)
1. Thanks for posting this, babylonsister. I'm a boomer who is just about to be eligible for medicare
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 03:23 PM
Feb 2014

and learning about it is like trying to get a PhD in the mathematics of going around in circles, and not ending up anywhere.

I've been trying to research it all online, but none of the sites seem to be getting through my thick skull. I'm going to try to get an appointment with an insurance person next week. The pharmacy/part D part was the strangest of all, I think.

I also don't understand how my friend who is 76, and her husband who is 85, can get their supplement cheaper than I have seen for myself online, with everything covered 100%.

It's baffling.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
3. I just went though the process.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 03:31 PM
Feb 2014

I turned 65 last month.
I got Medicare plan A and B, then a supplement, plan F, which is the "gold" plan with USAA. I paid the extra for a smoker, which was 11.00 more per month. I don't smoke much, but I didn't want to take any chances. Then I got the Humana part D as I wrote about in my other post. All together it is $267.00 per month. It's the best insurance I've ever had.

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
5. your local senoir citizens center will answer all your questions.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 04:57 PM
Feb 2014

you can visit your local ss office and they will give you the information you need. the 'phone people' at social security are thee best customer service people in the world.

medicare great system that should be offered to everyone in the usa.

DURHAM D

(32,603 posts)
6. With regard to your friends...
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:01 PM
Feb 2014

re "their supplement"

Are you talking about a Supplemental to Part B or something about Part D?

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
7. Hi Durham: No I'm talking about their "supplemental insurance policy"
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 07:20 PM
Feb 2014

that somehow makes everything different. They have Blue Cross/Blue Shield NC for their supplement, so BCBS pays everything Medicare doesn't pay....plus, somehow, their drugs.

It's making me crazy, because I don't have a clue what I'm talking about.

DURHAM D

(32,603 posts)
8. That means they have a Medicare Advantage plan
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 09:01 PM
Feb 2014

if drugs are included in their plan. Medicare Advantage can also bundle dental and eye in addition to drugs. They probably have an annual deductible they meet each year. My brother has a Medicare Advantage plan provided by his former employer and each year his out of pocket expenses go up to the point he is about to tell his former company to take a hike and switch to regular Medicare. Also, if you have a Medicare Advantage plan your choices are somewhat limited in that you have to go to a doctor in network and get a referral to see a specialist.

I have (and NancyOk has) regular Medicare with a Medigap policy. It is also known as a Supplemental. We both have chosen Plan F as our Supplemental/Medigap with no deductibles. Plan F is the most chosen Plan for a supplemental but there are Plans from A - K or L or M or something. Each Plan covers differently but Plan F covers the deductibles for Part A & B of Medicare and the 20% of expenses not covered by Medicare.

I live in NC and have Mutual of Omaha, Plan F for my Medigap. I don't need to see a Doctor chosen by the insurance company and can see a specialist without a referral.

For drug coverage I have First Health. It is $41.20 a month. I don't take any drugs so I am probably paying a little more than I need to for Part D but things can always change. If you take any drugs it is best to call the people in NC that will go over the choices with you.

btw - Most people, like your friends, that have Medicare Advantage do not even know they have an "Advantage" plan. They mistakenly think they have regular Medicare. Often, like my brother, they were enrolled in it by their former employee and they don't even know it. In fact, my brother kept complaining every year that his out of pocket costs were going up, etc. I am younger and it was not until I had to go through the process that I figured out what he has. It took another two years for me to get him to understand that he has an Advantage plan and not regular Medicare.

You may want an Advantage plan but first study the difference between Advantage and regular Medicare. I have explained it like this - If you have regular Medicare the federal government is your insurance provider. If you have an Advantage plan you are with a private insurer. Another way to see it - $104.90 is taken from my SS check each month. It remains in the Medicare coffers. If I had an Advantage plan that $104.90 would be sent to BC/BS and placed in their bank.

I know that BCBS dropped a lot of doctors out of the Advantage program this year (not sure if it happened in NC) because of cost concerns. Also, if you have a GP you like make sure that they are in the Advantage network.


ETA: I just noticed that you are meeting with an insurance person next week. More than likely they will try to put you in an Advantage program because they will bundle other stuff and make things appear to be more simple. If you have any health issues please do your homework in advance.





loudsue

(14,087 posts)
9. Thanks Durham. I'm in N.C., too, and
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 09:10 PM
Feb 2014

I just printed out your post, and bookmarked this thread. I'll look into it with this little cheat-sheet you just gave me! It helps! Thanks!

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
11. Thanks for your post!! I turned 65 in November and my
Sun Feb 16, 2014, 12:09 PM
Feb 2014

husband did in January. We went through the process of transitioning off of my husband's employer supplied health insurance. He is retired (for three years) but we were able to continue the insurance through CIGNA taken out of his pension payment each month. We were looking forward to getting on Medicare because the CIGNA cost $878.00/month for the two of us. We had health insurance, vision plan and dental for that price.

When I got ready to start looking at Medicare and a Supplemental for what Medicare does not pay, plus the other plans for vision and dental, I was referred to a company provided by my husband's employer. We also are supposed to each receive $85.00 a month from his former employer to go toward our health insurance expenses. (One of his retirement benefits.)

To say it was confusing is an understatement. There was a website to get registered and then we could see the Medicare Supplemental plans all grouped together for our state. We also could see Medicare Advantage Plans grouped. Remember, each state is different. So there are many, many plans but what is relevant is WHERE you live. What your cousin has in Wisconsin will not be pertinent to your situation unless YOU live in Wisconsin. You have to look at the policies that are approved in YOUR state and for your circumstances. So where you live matters and if you smoke or not matters when it comes to the final cost per month for your supplemental insurance.

And yes, you are so right to look carefully at the differences between Medicare Advantage and Medicare with a Supplemental. There are differences between them and at first glance, you may think one way over the other may make sense for your situation. But do ask questions and read EVERYTHING. Not just the plan summaries on a web page. Get a look at the entire plan and be sure you understand what it means for you. It is not all about how much you pay each month. Find out what you get for that premium and what you do NOT get. Or what the rules and limitations are.

And one last caveat: Do not wait until the last minute to start the process. This is complicated and can be confusing even with help. Don't make a snap decision about which way you'll go because you could make a costly mistake. Or one that causes you distress, such as not being able to see the doctor you've known and trusted. I called my doctor's office and made sure they accepted and participated in the plan I was considering. And at times I felt positively STUPID for getting confused but realized that the way it is set up now....it's just the nature of the beast. It could be easier but until we deal with the whole way we provide health care and health insurance in this country, it's the system we have. I ended up choosing Medicare A & B, United Health Care Plan F (AARP) and Wellcare for drugs and a Humana Plan for dental. I made no decision regarding a vision plan but can change my mind about that later.

Oh and I just thought of one more thing....when I signed up in August I calculated the cost and didn't realize that by the time I got completely enrolled, the cost would go up for my plans. Not by a lot but when you're on a fixed income, every increase matters. So if you sign up late in the year like I did, you may find a raise in the rates is quickly applied to your rates when the new year comes around. They never told me that the rates I was quoted would likely change in pretty short order.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
2. that would be great!
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 03:25 PM
Feb 2014

I had to get the cheapest plan at $12.00 per month. The plan is good, the co-pays are very low.... but the preferred pharmacy is Walmart!
I haven't used it yet, but I'd prefer to go to the CVS down the street if I could.

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
4. i pay cash for one of my 6 drugs i`m taking
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 04:50 PM
Feb 2014

after all these years it`s nice to hear no charge. now if medicare would get rid of the co pay of 20% it would be great.

 

gerogie2

(450 posts)
10. Mail order Pharmacies can lead to disaster for patients
Sun Feb 16, 2014, 11:36 AM
Feb 2014

I'm on Medicare Part D and was given a discount to use the insurance cos. mail order pharmacy. Three times my prescriptions were lost in the mail and I ended up paying full cost for those missing prescriptions at the pharmacy since Medicare part D wouldn't pay for new ones. I now only use a local pharmacy and have no danger of being left with hundred of dollars in prescription costs because my scripts were lost during shipment. (Most likely they were stolen by employees of the shipper.)

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