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cali

(114,904 posts)
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 06:47 PM Feb 2014

Is the NSA using other nations' NSA counterparts to spy on Americans? Why yes.

The list of those caught up in the global surveillance net cast by the National Security Agency and its overseas partners, from social media users to foreign heads of state, now includes another entry: American lawyers.

A top-secret document, obtained by the former N.S.A. contractor Edward J. Snowden, shows that an American law firm was monitored while representing a foreign government in trade disputes with the United States. The disclosure offers a rare glimpse of a specific instance in which Americans were ensnared by the eavesdroppers, and is of particular interest because lawyers in the United States with clients overseas have expressed growing concern that their confidential communications could be compromised by such surveillance.

The government of Indonesia had retained the law firm for help in trade talks, according to the February 2013 document. It reports that the N.S.A.’s Australian counterpart, the Australian Signals Directorate, notified the agency that it was conducting surveillance of the talks, including communications between Indonesian officials and the American law firm, and offered to share the information.

The Australians told officials at an N.S.A. liaison office in Canberra, Australia, that “information covered by attorney-client privilege may be included” in the intelligence gathering, according to the document, a monthly bulletin from the Canberra office. The law firm was not identified, but Mayer Brown, a Chicago-based firm with a global practice, was then advising the Indonesian government on trade issues.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/16/us/eavesdropping-ensnared-american-law-firm.html?hp&_r=0

noisome- to use a somewhat quaint word.

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Is the NSA using other nations' NSA counterparts to spy on Americans? Why yes. (Original Post) cali Feb 2014 OP
Jumping the gun a bit, aren't you? randome Feb 2014 #1
did you read the article? pretty clear that they were working closely in concert with the NSA cali Feb 2014 #2
They notified the NSA. It doesn't automatically follow that the NSA colluded with them in any way. randome Feb 2014 #3
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
1. Jumping the gun a bit, aren't you?
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 06:56 PM
Feb 2014

This was Australia doing the spying, not the U.S. Just because the article kind of/sort of conflates the two agencies doesn't mean the NSA had anything to do with this.
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cali

(114,904 posts)
2. did you read the article? pretty clear that they were working closely in concert with the NSA
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 06:57 PM
Feb 2014
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
3. They notified the NSA. It doesn't automatically follow that the NSA colluded with them in any way.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 06:59 PM
Feb 2014

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