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William769

(55,145 posts)
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 03:45 PM Feb 2014

Watch: Lawmakers Cheer As Ugandan President Declares War on Homosexuals

Apparently the president of Uganda, Yoweri Museveni, wasn't coming around to our side when he admonished his Parliament last year for passing the Anti-Homosexuality Bill without the required quorum and inferred that he would not sign it, reports David Badash in The New Civil Rights Movement. At his national party retreat last week Museveni told lawmakers that he will sign the bill, adding, “We shall have a war with the homosexual lobby, in the world, backed by these people and you.”

Captured on video, that line caught the crowd's attention as they all stood to applaud and cheer Museveni's declaration of war, which TV personality Piers Morgan has aptly dubbed “gay apartheid.”

According to Badash, the Anti-Homosexuality Bill "mandates jail sentences — including life in prison — for those accused of having sex with members of their own gender, and for those who know LGBT people but do not report them to authorities. Jail is also mandated for those who support LGBT civil rights and the LGBT community."

http://www.advocate.com/world/2014/02/17/watch-lawmakers-cheer-ugandan-president-declares-war-homosexuals

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Watch: Lawmakers Cheer As Ugandan President Declares War on Homosexuals (Original Post) William769 Feb 2014 OP
Just plain evil. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #1
I would give you the breakdown of religion in Uganda William769 Feb 2014 #4
The embarrassment for me is that Anglicans in that country support this law. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #5
Wasn't this one of the primary reasons for the schism? theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #6
We never had a schism worldwide. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #8
yeah I know arely staircase Feb 2014 #30
Sometimes I wish we can break communion with them. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #31
Well now, wouldn't it seem a bit on the hypocritical side... theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #11
Good point. William769 Feb 2014 #15
Sometimes, silence speaks volumes theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #18
I agree. William769 Feb 2014 #19
Disturbing. TheMathieu Feb 2014 #2
. DURHAM D Feb 2014 #3
Sadly, it's a tactic as old as politics itself... Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #7
Horrific, and Uganda is largely Catholic and Anglican but the leadership of Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #9
Exactly! William769 Feb 2014 #12
He is a maker of this hate culture, he spent years making superstition Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #21
I'll go one step further and say the Catholic Church William769 Feb 2014 #22
Now now, William, he has plans.... theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #33
Good grief! William769 Feb 2014 #34
Yeah. Cool, huh? theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #37
This is so scary. Where is the outrage for this? sufrommich Feb 2014 #10
To his credit, President Obama has spoken out. William769 Feb 2014 #13
I suppose it would be unthinkable that we should consider cutting US aid to this vile regime? Glorfindel Feb 2014 #14
And yes, you can tie these two threads to this one. William769 Feb 2014 #16
You can thank The Family for this hootinholler Feb 2014 #17
Which family? William769 Feb 2014 #36
The Family... hootinholler Feb 2014 #39
Find a scapegoat to a country's problems and the populace will almost always cheer. sakabatou Feb 2014 #20
They want reports of Suspected Homosexuals to the authorities? dickthegrouch Feb 2014 #23
I think the scariest bit is the ban on advocating for gay rights. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #24
Time to offer asylum to Ugandan LGBTs theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #25
Museveni is evil, as well as those that cheered. sheshe2 Feb 2014 #26
Look at all the Countries with Anti Gay Law's William769 Feb 2014 #32
This post is obviously just a smear on President Museveni and the Ugandan people. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #27
Not gonna watch, it would make me... joeybee12 Feb 2014 #28
K&R! countryjake Feb 2014 #29
abominable nt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #35
Sound like our RWers Jamaal510 Feb 2014 #38

William769

(55,145 posts)
4. I would give you the breakdown of religion in Uganda
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 03:53 PM
Feb 2014

But then their would show up and ask me why I hate their Religion (as if it's not obvious to begin with).

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
6. Wasn't this one of the primary reasons for the schism?
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 03:57 PM
Feb 2014

I foresee a similar schisms for other denominations as well.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
8. We never had a schism worldwide.
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 04:00 PM
Feb 2014

In the us a few parishes left to form a new Anglican Church but it is not recognized by the Church of England so it is not in the communion.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
11. Well now, wouldn't it seem a bit on the hypocritical side...
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 04:23 PM
Feb 2014

... for certain religious leaders to denounce anti-LGBT laws in places like Nigeria and Uganda when they are so busy lobbying for discriminatory laws elsewhere around the world, including here?

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
18. Sometimes, silence speaks volumes
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 04:35 PM
Feb 2014

But if folks realized the scope of the anti-gay, anti-woman lobbying going on under the code phrase "religious liberty", they'd realize why their religious leaders haven't spoken out. They are willing to sacrifice the lives of LGBTs in countries like Uganda, Nigeria and Cameroon in order not to undermine their ongoing battle against LGBTs in the U.S. and elsewhere.

 

TheMathieu

(456 posts)
2. Disturbing.
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 03:49 PM
Feb 2014

Things are about to get real worse for LGBT citizens across the world before they get better.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
7. Sadly, it's a tactic as old as politics itself...
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 03:58 PM
Feb 2014

Get pissed off and find some easily targeted punching bag to blame (glbt, immigrants, the poor, some ethnic/religious minority, intellectuals, neighboring country, taxes, workers' rights, feminists) for why things are so shitty in your nation, and soon enough the general public stops searching for the *real* reason why things are so shitty in their nation..

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
9. Horrific, and Uganda is largely Catholic and Anglican but the leadership of
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 04:15 PM
Feb 2014

those Churches have not objected and continue to send tons of money and call hate mongers 'Princes' and 'Pastors' and that sort of rot. Same goes for the smaller Protestant communities, but no one around here promotes those leaders as they do the others.

William769

(55,145 posts)
12. Exactly!
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 04:23 PM
Feb 2014

Don't hold your breath though waiting for a message from the Pope, this atrocity just won't make the cut.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
21. He is a maker of this hate culture, he spent years making superstition
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 04:46 PM
Feb 2014

laced attacks on LGBT people and their families in Argentina.

William769

(55,145 posts)
22. I'll go one step further and say the Catholic Church
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 04:51 PM
Feb 2014

Has spent centuries perpetrating a fraud against civilization.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
33. Now now, William, he has plans....
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 09:37 PM
Feb 2014

... to visit Uganda in October to celebrate with the government the canonization of Ugandan martyrs... and no, not the murdered LGBT activist David Kato nor the GLBTs being arrested, tortured and killed.

http://www.newvision.co.ug/news/651627--the-pope-is-coming.html

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
10. This is so scary. Where is the outrage for this?
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 04:19 PM
Feb 2014

While supposedly civilized governments shrug it off. Insane.

Glorfindel

(9,726 posts)
14. I suppose it would be unthinkable that we should consider cutting US aid to this vile regime?
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 04:25 PM
Feb 2014

Not to mention embargo, seizure of assets, and withdrawal of diplomatic recognition? No doubt we'll say "tut, tut" and "naughty, naughty" while they conduct their "war."

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
39. The Family...
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 10:56 AM
Feb 2014

The Jesus Plus Nothing guys who put together the Presidential Prayer Breakfast. Very dysfunctional indeed, unless you are one of them then, it's very functional and successful.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-august-12-2009/jeff-sharlet

Or a better article here: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/34783946/ns/msnbc-rachel_maddow_show/t/uganda-be-kidding-me/#.UwN1YYVZjpg

dickthegrouch

(3,172 posts)
23. They want reports of Suspected Homosexuals to the authorities?
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 05:09 PM
Feb 2014

Bury them in "reports" of every politician, clergyman, right-wing idiot, autocrat, hypocrite... in the country.
When they're afraid for their own safety maybe they'll pay a bit more attention to what they're doing.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
24. I think the scariest bit is the ban on advocating for gay rights.
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 05:56 PM
Feb 2014

Criminalising being gay is appalling, but at least there's hope it will change.

But a law which makes trying to change it a criminal offence in its own right is locked in, and leaves little room for hope.

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
26. Museveni is evil, as well as those that cheered.
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 06:15 PM
Feb 2014
Obama said in a written statement released Sunday. “At a time when, tragically, we are seeing an increase in reports of violence and harassment targeting members of the LGBT community from Russia to Nigeria, I salute all those in Uganda and around the world who remain committed to respecting the human rights and fundamental human dignity of all persons.”


http://nypost.com/2014/02/17/obama-condemns-ugandas-anti-gay-law/

William769

(55,145 posts)
32. Look at all the Countries with Anti Gay Law's
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 08:10 PM
Feb 2014

Punishment ranges from fines to death just for loving someone of the same sex.

Grant you we don't have all the rights afforded to Heterosexuals here in America, but we don't even come close to some of these barbaric Countries.

Yes President Obama has spoken out on Uganda and I hope he even goes further with his actions.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
27. This post is obviously just a smear on President Museveni and the Ugandan people.
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 06:19 PM
Feb 2014

So I guess you just want us to bomb Uganda then huh? MIC tools.

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