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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPresident Obama needs to stop talking about climate change.
The President should just do what he believes is in the best interest of the country.
I mean, why bother with all that talk? The climate deniers aren't going to change their minds. So what's the point of preaching to the choir? Those who agree are likely tired of hearing about it. When people who are always right say President Obama and Secretary Kerry should just STFU, it's likely time to just do that. Quit talking about it. Just do it, whatever it is.
He should implement his plan quietly, and let the chips fall where they may.
The planet is likely doomed already anyway.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)After all, we may all be doomed tonight...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014730398
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)and does not align at all with his election year PR claims to care about climate change.
Perhaps people would respond more to his pretty words if they remotely matched his behavior in office. Instead, we face these massive, continuing corporate assaults on the environment by his administration:
Fracking is a huge environmental and human threat. Why does Obama support it?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024470380
Oil industry wrote State Department report on Keystone
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024487677
2013 In Review: Obama Talks Climate ChangeBut Pushes Fracking
http://www.democraticunderground.com/112760899
I told myself this couldn't be true: Big Oil and Gas is Exempt from Major Environmental Laws
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024480868
Obama's Oil Expansion Plans: A Clear and Present Danger to Public Safety
http://www.democraticunderground.com/112759747
Video: Romney And Obama Argue About Who Loves Big Oil More
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101768935
Obama and Climate Change: The Real Story
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014675710
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024190645
WikiLeaks Release: Administration Retreating on Environment in Talks on Pacific Trade
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014697818
WikiLeaks on the Trans-Pacific Partnership Environment Chapter: "Toothless Public Relations Exercise
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024374847
Obama is determined to push the TPP through despite opposition
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024505012
Leaked TPP Document Reveals No Regard for Environment in Trade Agreement
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017169842
TYT: Obama Relies On Corrupt Consultants For Crucial Environmental Report
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017173081
Obama Administration Sells More Than 20 Million Acres in Western Gulf of Mexico for Oil and Natural Gas Exploration and Development
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021896005
Eighteen leading environmental groups demand an end to Obama's "all of the above" energy strategy
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101683340
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"He is implementing his plan. Disgustingly, it does not align at all with his election year PR claims to care about the environment.
Perhaps people would respond more to his pretty words if they remotely matched his behavior in office. Instead, we face these massive, continuing corporate assaults on the environment by his administration:"
...and I say good for him. Just go about it quietly and ignore the "propaganda" that you keep posting in every thread
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024512367#post4
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024505179#post14
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024512342#post15
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024514365#post7
As I said, if you do keep posting this, and I come across it, I'll post this:
From your last link
In addition, all of the above leaves the American people holding the bag of drinking water contamination in our communities, crude oil pipeline bursts in our neighborhoods, toxic chemicals in our air, fracking groundwater accidents across the nation, oil spills in our precious Arctic waters and in our seafood-rich Gulf, carcinogenic dumping in our community waters, mountaintop removal across the Appalachians, historic coal ash spills, and more.
Yes, environmentalists are against the all of the above strategy.
Environmentalists, however, do recognize progress when they see it.
Washington, D.C.
The following is a statement from Earthjustice President Trip Van Noppen in response to President Obamas State of the Union Address:
We are encouraged that President Obama made climate change a centerpiece of his speech tonight. We applaud his commitment to facing this challenge, for the benefit of our children and grandchildren.
President Obama has taken courageous actions so far to back this commitment. His leadership in achieving strong clean car standards has been a huge accomplishment, and we are thrilled with his leadership in tackling carbon pollution from power plants, the nations largest source of climate change pollution. And tonight, the President went further and affirmed that we cant allow destructive energy development on our pristine public lands.
The success of the Presidents climate plan and our children's future depends on viewing all fossil fuels decisions through the lens of climate impacts, as the president has said he would do for the Keystone XL pipeline. Those agencies responsible for drilling off our coasts, fracking, mountaintop removal, and fossil fuel exports have to prioritize climate change just as the EPA is doing, and the President needs to ensure that they do.
An all-of-the-above energy strategy cannot work for the Presidents own climate action plan and the climate vision he espoused tonight. All energy sources were not created equal. Clean energy is better for our families, communities, future generations, and American competitiveness. The United States should be placing our bets on 'best of the above,' not 'all of the above.' The President rightly called out the need to invest in solar energy that can power our homes and our economy rather than fossil fuels.
- more -
http://earthjustice.org/news/press/2014/earthjustice-statement-on-president-obama-s-state-of-the-union-address
As for the Keystone report, here is the assessment unskewed:
350.org co-founder Bill McKibben issued the following statement this afternoon in response to the latest State Department environmental impact statement on the Keystone XL pipeline:
The intrusion of reality into this process is really important. The report concluded that in a scenario where we take climate change seriously and regulate climate pollution, this pipeline will indeed have a significant impact on climate change. So now well find out if thats the world Barack Obama and John Kerry want. This report gives President Obama everything he needs in order to block this project. This is the first environmental issue in years to bring Americans into the streets in big numbers, and now theyll be there in ever greater numbers to make sure the President makes the right call.
http://350.org/press-release/bill-mckibben-reacts-to-latest-keystone-xl-environmental-impact-statement/
That's the third statement from environmentalists rejecting the media spin.
NRDC: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024423143#post4
Michael Brune: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024423143#post5
"Propaganda" = a bunch of articles railing against fracking and TPP?
Policies:
Statement from Earthjustice Vice President of Litigation Patti Goldman:
America owes Lisa Jackson a debt of gratitude for her work to protect the public's health from polluters and their allies in Congress. For her efforts to clean up pollution and better protect the environment and public health, she faced a steady barrage from members of Congress and the industrial polluters who back them. Her detractors are the same people who told us taking lead out of gasoline in the 1970's would break the economy and that taking acid out of acid rain in the 1990's would ruin the country. In both cases, the environment and economy were strengthened and this is the approach Lisa Jackson took. There is a lot of unfinished business started by Jackson that the next EPA director will need to attend to. Whoever it is, they'll need the support of the President and they'll need to be ready for a non-stop barrage of attacks from the chemical, industrial and fossil fuel industries and their allies in Congress.
After 17 years of Earthjustice litigation it was Lisa Jackson who finally regulated mercury and other toxic pollutants coming from power plants. After a decade of litigation from Earthjustice and others, it was Lisa Jackson who supported and implemented regulations aimed at curbing greenhouse gases. After more than a decade of Earthjustice litigation it was Lisa Jackson who finally implemented the first regulation of mercury from cement kilns all over the country.
http://earthjustice.org/news/press/2012/lisa-jackson-to-leave-epa-earthjustice-statement
He fast-tracked regulations to allow states to enact federal fuel efficiency standards that were above federal standards. http://nyti.ms/e8e94x
He fast-tracked increased fuel economy standards for vehicles beginning with the 2011 model year. It was the first time such standards had been increased in a decade. http://politi.co/hiaPKM
He oversaw the establishment of an Energy Partnership for the Americas, which creates more markets for American-made biofuels and green energy technologies. http://bit.ly/lZp73y
His EPA reversed a Bush-era decision to allow the largest mountaintop removal project in US history. http://bit.ly/lP3yEL
He ordered the Department of Energy to implement more aggressive efficiency standards for common household appliances. http://1.usa.gov/g3MTbu
He ordered energy plants to prepare to produce at least 15% of all energy through renewable resources like wind and solar, by 2021. http://reut.rs/fV155p (As you can see, Republicans are trying hard to kill it.)
He oversaw the creation of an initiative that converts old factories and manufacturing centers into new clean technology centers. http://bit.ly/mjnq2R
Obama bypassed Republican opposition in Congress and ordered EPA to begin regulating and measuring carbon emissions. http://bit.ly/froaP5
His EPA ruled that CO2 is a pollutant. http://bit.ly/iQTSNN
He doubled federal spending on clean energy research. http://bit.ly/iN0sCE
He pushed through a tax credit to help people buy plug-in hybrid cars. http://bit.ly/j8UP5Y
He created a program to develop renewable energy projects on the waters of our Outer Continental Shelf that will produce electricity from wind, wave, and ocean currents. http://1.usa.gov/fgfRWq
Obama reengaged in the climate change and greenhouse gas emissions agreements talks, and even proposed one himself. He also addressed the U.N. Climate Change Conference, officially reversing the Bush-era stance that climate change was a hoax. http://bit.ly/dX6Vj3 http://bit.ly/fE2PxK http://nyti.ms/hfeqvv
He fully supported the initial phase of the creation of a legally binding treaty to reduce mercury emissions worldwide. http://bit.ly/eJ6QOO
He required states to provide incentives to utilities to reduce their energy consumption. http://bit.ly/lBhk7P
Following Bushs eight year reign, he reengaged in a number of treaties and agreements designed to protect the Antarctic. http://bit.ly/fzQUFO
Created tax write-offs for purchases of hybrid automobiles, and later he and Democrats morphed that program into one that includes electric cars. http://bit.ly/glCukV
Mandated that federal government fleet purchases be for fuel-efficient American vehicles, and encouraged that federal agencies support experimental, fuel-efficient vehicles. http://bit.ly/h5KZqy http://1.usa.gov/fLWq5c http://1.usa.gov/hmUSbk
Obama oversaw and pushed through an amendment to the Oil Pollution Act of 1990 authorizing advances from Oil Spill Liability Trust Fund for the Deepwater Horizon oil spill. http://1.usa.gov/yTRYVo
He also actively tried to amend the Oil Pollution Act of 1990 to eliminate the liability limits for those companies responsible for large oil spills. http://nyti.ms/bxjDi3
He initiated Criminal and Civil inquiries into the Deepwater Horizon oil spill. http://nyti.ms/bVuB7a
Through Obamas EPA, he asserted federal legal supremacy, and barred Texas from authorizing new refinery permits on its own. http://bit.ly/ww8eMd
He strengthened the Endangered Species Act. http://bit.ly/hscjsH
His EPA improved boiler safety standards to improve air quality, and save 6500 lives per year. http://bit.ly/jYH7nt
Through the EPA, he took steps to severely limit the use of antibiotics in livestock feed, to increase their efficacy in humans. http://bit.ly/fBuWd2
Obama increased funding for National Parks and Forests by 10% http://bit.ly/fbJPjY
He announced greatly improved commercial fuel efficiency standards. http://1.usa.gov/oQiC1K
He announced the development of a huge increase in average fuel economy standards from 27.5mpg to 35.5mpg starting in 2016 and 54.5 starting in 2025 http://1.usa.gov/qtghsW
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/02/15/a-long-list-of-president-obamas-accomplishments-with-citations/
Scuba
(53,475 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)It has electrolytes!
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"His plan directs major corporate assaults on the environment and does not align at all with his election year PR claims to care about climate change."
...let me showcase that edit:
"He is implementing his plan. Disgustingly, it does not align at all with his election year PR claims to care about the environment."
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)I actually prefer the original version.
It better captures the utter visceral disgust elicited by the contrast between these massive corporate assaults and the dishonest Third Way election year rhetoric we are fed about *caring for the environment.*
okaawhatever
(9,461 posts)Every time a Republican climate denier gets on tv the Democratic party gets a few votes.
But, not for nothing, he is implementing his plan, it's called gathering public support.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)Every time a Republican climate denier gets on tv the Democratic party gets a few votes.
But, not for nothing, he is implementing his plan, it's called gathering public support.
...President Obama should keep his small ideas to himself. The deniers will become educated by the acknowledgment of our impending doom. The charts and scientific evidence will permeate the sand to reach their heads.
okaawhatever
(9,461 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)"That's just your opinion. And quite frankly, means absolutely nothing to me."
...it's your time.
$1 Billion for Climate Preparedness: The White House Gets It
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024505179
FACT SHEET: President Obama Leading Administration-wide Drought Response
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/02/14/fact-sheet-president-obama-leading-administration-wide-drought-response
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)Damn them! The President is assaulting the environment! Damn his pretty words! My facts are my facts! And I stand by them!
350.org co-founder Bill McKibben issued the following statement this afternoon in response to the latest State Department environmental impact statement on the Keystone XL pipeline:
The intrusion of reality into this process is really important. The report concluded that in a scenario where we take climate change seriously and regulate climate pollution, this pipeline will indeed have a significant impact on climate change. So now well find out if thats the world Barack Obama and John Kerry want. This report gives President Obama everything he needs in order to block this project. This is the first environmental issue in years to bring Americans into the streets in big numbers, and now theyll be there in ever greater numbers to make sure the President makes the right call.
http://350.org/press-release/bill-mckibben-reacts-to-latest-keystone-xl-environmental-impact-statement/
This report gives President Obama everything he needs in order to block this project. This is the first environmental issue in years to bring Americans into the streets in big numbers, and now theyll be there in ever greater numbers to make sure the President makes the right call.
Hmmm, wonder what he will do!? I say that he will stand with Earth First. Just my opinion of course.
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)Response to ProSense (Original post)
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ProSense
(116,464 posts)RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)And he got railroaded right out of town!!
Obama has too much to personally lose. He's not gonna do anything to put a damper on his future 'earnings'.
Bill Clinton never did. Carter did try. He warned us. And he got railroaded.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)in relation to President Obama doing what he believes he needs to do?
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)He obviously doesn't believe GW is something to sacrifice for. Who does? Can you name one person who has sacrificed future earnings in order to alleviate GW? Besides me.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"Obama believes in future 'earnings'"
Seems like a cryptic CT.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)He does want the Clinton riches.
Are you ok? You have like 6 OPs on the front page. And you don't even get what the idea of DC politics is these days: Rich getting richer.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"Are you ok? You have like 6 OPs on the front page. "
Is this some sort of deflection tactic?
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)Downwinder
(12,869 posts)JRLeft
(7,010 posts)irrelevant.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)It's all over.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)JRLeft
(7,010 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Enigma - Gravity of Love With Stunning Earth Footage
From the video:
Irreversibly more than one in ten of all plants and animals today will become extinct because of global warming gases already released into the atmosphere.
Scientists estimate that if mankind continues to burn oil, coal and gas at the current rate, one in every three animals will be doomed by the 2050.
Scientists estimate that if current deforesttation rates continue that all the rainforests will be destroyed by the year 2060.
This is what is at stake. No president in history has faced the mulititude of challenges Obama has, save Wahington, Lincoln, Roosevelt and Kennedy. We are at a pivotal point as Americans and citizens of the world:
President Obama issues Executive Order on Climate
by VL Baker - Nov 01, 2013
President Obama just issued an executive order to prepare the Nation for the impacts of climate change by undertaking actions to enhance climate preparedness and resilience."
THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
November 1, 2013
FACT SHEET: Executive Order on Climate Preparedness
President Obama Establishes a Task Force on Climate
We're going to need to get prepared. And thats why this plan will also protect critical sectors of our economy and prepare the United States for the impacts of climate change that we cannot avoid. States and cities across the country are already taking it upon themselves to get ready And well partner with communities seeking help to prepare for droughts and floods, reduce the risk of wildfires, protect the dunes and wetlands that pull double duty as green space and as natural storm barriers. President Barack Obama, June 25, 2013
Today, President Obama established a Task Force on Climate Preparedness and Resilience to advise the Administration on how the Federal Government can respond to the needs of communities nationwide that are dealing with the impacts of climate change. The Task Force members include state, local and tribal leaders from across the country who will use their first-hand experiences in building climate preparedness and resilience in their communities to inform their recommendations to the Administration.
The President signed an Executive Order that directs Federal agencies to take a series of steps to make it easier for American communities to strengthen their resilience to extreme weather and prepare for other impacts of climate change.
President Obama has said that we have a moral obligation to our children and future generations to leave them a planet that is not polluted or damaged. That is why in June, the President launched a Climate Action Plan to cut carbon pollution, prepare communities for the impacts of climate change, and lead international efforts to address this global challenge. The Climate Action Plan recognizes that even as we act to curb the carbon pollution that is driving climate change, we must also improve our ability to prepare for the climate impacts we are already seeing across the country. Across America, states, cities, and communities are taking steps to protect themselves from extreme weather and other climate impacts by updating building codes, adjusting the way they manage natural resources, investing in more resilient infrastructure, and planning for rapid recovery from damages that nonetheless occur.
The Federal Government has an important role to play in supporting community-based preparedness and resilience efforts by establishing policies and prioritizing investments that promote preparedness, protecting critical infrastructure and public resources, supporting science and research needed to prepare for climate impacts, and ensuring that Federal operations and facilities continue to protect and serve citizens in a changing climate.
State, Local and Tribal Leaders Task Force on Climate Preparedness and Resilience
State, local and tribal leaders across the country are already contending with more frequent or severe heat waves, droughts, wildfires, storms and floods, and other impacts of climate change. The Task Force will provide recommendations to the President on removing barriers to resilient investments, modernizing Federal grant and loan programs to better support local efforts, and developing the information and tools they need to prepare.
Task Force members comprise governors, mayors, county officials and tribal leaders, representing a diverse range of communities. The members of the Task Force include:
State Officials:
Governor Neil Abercrombie (HI)
Governor Jerry Brown (CA)
Governor Eddie Calvo (GU)
Governor Jay Inslee (WA)
Governor Jack Markell (DE)
Governor Martin OMalley (MD)
Governor Pat Quinn (IL)
Governor Peter Shumlin (VT)
Local Officials:
Mayor Ralph Becker (Salt Lake City, UT)
Mayor James Brainard (Carmel, IN)
Commissioner Paula Brooks (Franklin County, OH)
Supervisor Salud Carbajal (Santa Barbara County, CA)
Mayor Frank Cownie (Des Moines, IA)
Mayor Bob Dixson (Greensburg, KS)
Mayor Eric Garcetti (Los Angeles, CA)
Mayor George Heartwell (Grand Rapids, MI)
Mayor Kristin Jacobs (Broward County, FL)
Mayor Kevin Johnson (Sacramento, CA)
Mayor Michael Nutter (Philadelphia, PA)
Mayor Annise Parker (Houston, TX)
Mayor Patsy Parker (Perdido Beach, AL)
Mayor Madeline Rogero (Knoxville, TN)
Mayor Karen Weitkunat (Fort Collins, CO)
Mayor Dawn Zimmer (Hoboken, NJ)
Tribal Officials:
Karen Diver, Chairwoman, Fond du Lac Band of Lake Superior Chippewa (MN)
Reggie Joule, Mayor, Northwest Arctic Borough (AK)
An Executive Order to Protect Our Communities
The Obama Administration has taken significant steps to strengthen the climate resilience of Americas communities and economy. More than 30 Federal agencies developed their first-ever Climate Change Adaptation Plans, outlining strategies to protect their operations, programs, and investments to better serve communities and safeguard our public resources in the face of climate change. In the wake of Hurricane Sandy, the Administration has provided resources to rebuild the affected area to be more resilient than before, including support for more climate-resilient roads and infrastructure, and projects that protect drinking water and buffer communities from flooding. In addition, Federal agencies have partnered with states, cities, tribes, and the private sector to develop strategies to address the impacts of climate change on our freshwater resources, oceans and coasts, and wildlife. Agencies have also built new, data-driven tools to help decision makers and resource managers map and plan for future sea level rise. From Florida to Minnesota, and from Alaska to New York, Federal agencies have partnered with communities to provide funding and technical assistance to address local climate impacts such as sea level rise, flooding, and water scarcity.
To build on this progress, the Executive Order (E.O.) Preparing the United States for the Impacts of Climate Change, signed today directs Federal agencies to:
Modernize Federal programs to support climate-resilient investments: Agencies will examine their policies and programs and find ways to make it easier for cities and towns to build smarter and stronger. Agencies will identify and remove any barriers to resilience-focused actions and investments for example, policies that encourage communities to rebuild to past standards after disasters instead of to stronger standards including through agency grants, technical assistance, and other programs in sectors from transportation and water management to conservation and disaster relief.
Manage lands and waters for climate preparedness and resilience: Americas natural resources are critical to our Nations economy, health and quality of life. The E.O. directs agencies to identify changes that must be made to land- and water-related policies, programs, and regulations to strengthen the climate resilience of our watersheds, natural resources, and ecosystems, and the communities and economies that depend on them. Federal agencies will also evaluate how to better promote natural storm barriers such as dunes and wetlands, as well as how to protect the carbon sequestration benefits of forests and lands to help reduce the carbon pollution that causes climate change.
· Provide information, data and tools for climate change preparedness and resilience: Scientific data and insights are essential to help communities and businesses better understand and manage the risks associated with extreme weather and other impacts of climate change. The E.O. instructs Federal agencies to work together and with information users to develop new climate preparedness tools and information that state, local, and private-sector leaders need to make smart decisions. In keeping with the Presidents Open Data initiative, agencies will also make extensive Federal climate data accessible to the public through an easy-to-use online portal.
Plan for climate change related risk: Recognizing the threat that climate change poses to Federal facilities, operations and programs, the E.O. builds on the first-ever set of Federal agency adaptation plans released earlier this year and directs Federal agencies to develop and implement strategies to evaluate and address their most significant climate change related risks.
To implement these actions, the E.O. establishes an interagency Council on Climate Preparedness and Resilience, chaired by the White House and composed of more than 25 agencies. To assist in achieving the goals of the E.O., these agencies are directed to consider the recommendations of the State, Local, and Tribal Leaders Task Force on Climate Preparedness and Resilience.
This is an amazing,timely action by our president. He is calling on those governors who have expressed commitment to mitigating and adapting to climate change. In states where the issue does not have the governors support he called on local officials such as Mayor Kristin Jacobs (Broward County, FL) to lead.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/11/01/1252319/-President-Obama-issues-Executive-Order-on-Climate-Preparedness
http://www.democraticunderground.com/110219113
to babylonsister for posting the full details:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023964324
READ IT AND WEEP!!!
*Just going with the meme...*
ProSense
(116,464 posts)Thanks for posting.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Cha
(297,149 posts)reverse psychology, ProSense?
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Cha
(297,149 posts)fresh~
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Now it makes sense!
ProSense
(116,464 posts)by the swimsuit editions and Obama's pretty speeches.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)He needs to stop reacting to their nonsense.