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riqster

(13,986 posts)
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 09:25 AM Feb 2014

While we’re watching “Putin’s Olympics”, his policies are killing people in the Ukraine.

http://bluntandcranky.wordpress.com/2014/02/19/while-were-watching-putins-olympics-his-policies-are-killing-people-in-the-ukraine/
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That is a picture of one small part of the people’s uprising against the Government of Putin-Puppet Yanukovic. He took power in a rigged election, imprisoned his predecessor, and started to run his country like his KGB boss Vladimir told him to. Now the whole country is in a meltdown.

At least 25 are dead, hundreds imprisoned, and thousands injured in their fight against the nouveau Soviet state that Putin is helping to set up. The Ukrainian Olympic athletes are being muzzled to an extent, so as to keep the coverage of the games all light and fluffy, but they are sending out tweets of support and consolation to their countrymen back home.

Remember, folks, while we are looking at Sochi, Putin and his pals are murdering their subjects over in Kiev. Enjoy the skiing and skating, but we can multitask: let us also stand with the brave citizens of the Ukraine as they fight for their freedom. Freedom that they already fought for, and thought they had won.

Stand with them, because the same could happen to us someday."


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While we’re watching “Putin’s Olympics”, his policies are killing people in the Ukraine. (Original Post) riqster Feb 2014 OP
yes, this is awful. but the asswipe blunt and cranky idiot misses the boat again cali Feb 2014 #1
Didn't the Russians Invade Georgia wercal Feb 2014 #2
Yep. Good memory. riqster Feb 2014 #3
Why do you hate the People's Hero Comrade Putin!? Adrahil Feb 2014 #4
Yes but I don't understand any association. dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #6
McCain tried his hardest to ramp up that one too. polly7 Feb 2014 #8
Thanks for the truth Polly. dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #9
Yvw .... and, Bingo! nt. polly7 Feb 2014 #10
So... you don't think Putin's desire to rebuild the Soviet Empire plays any role? Adrahil Feb 2014 #11
The subject of those replies was Georgia. dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #15
OK, now I know how seriously to take you. Thanks. NT Adrahil Feb 2014 #18
I really don't know alot about the reason for the invasion... wercal Feb 2014 #21
Yes, during the Olympics. Just like the current brutal measures in Kiev. riqster Feb 2014 #22
watching Sweden-Swiss curling now DrDan Feb 2014 #5
That reference is piss taking here for whatever reason. dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #7
Bollocks. I have been watching and HAVE heard it. riqster Feb 2014 #17
If you think I attach any importance to the US media dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #19
So instead of acting as though no one is saying it, it might be better to riqster Feb 2014 #20
IOC refuses to allow Ukranian athletes to wear black armbands. bullwinkle428 Feb 2014 #12
Here you go: riqster Feb 2014 #16
Speak for yourself, I'm not watching the Bigotry On Ice mini series, starring Vlad Putin and Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #13
Have not been watching and won't watch the Olympics. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #14
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
1. yes, this is awful. but the asswipe blunt and cranky idiot misses the boat again
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 09:31 AM
Feb 2014

Putin is tangential to the Ukrainian situation- though certainly he wield influence, and these aren't Putin's Olympics.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
4. Why do you hate the People's Hero Comrade Putin!?
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 10:03 AM
Feb 2014

Are you some kind of right-wing nut? I mean, clearly Putin is a champion of democracy and human rights!!!



dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
6. Yes but I don't understand any association.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 10:36 AM
Feb 2014

Georgia started the debacle re. South Ossetia so blame them for timing : not Russia.

Georgia had become overconfident following the advice and training given to them by both the US and Israel.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
8. McCain tried his hardest to ramp up that one too.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 10:40 AM
Feb 2014

There was never a conflict this * didn't want to see escalate to full-out war.

McCain: Georgia conflict is the ‘first serious crisis internationally since the end of the Cold War.’

BY SATYAM KHANNA ON AUGUST 15, 2008 AT 9:51 AM

"McCain: Georgia conflict is the ‘first serious crisis internationally since the end of the Cold War.’"

Speaking at the Aspen Institute in Colorado yesterday, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) said that recent Russian aggression in Georgia is the “first…serious crisis internationally since the end of the Cold War.” McCain seemingly ignored the Gulf War, 9/11, and the Iraq War, to name a few:

My friends, we have reached a crisis, the first probably serious crisis internationally since the end of the Cold War. This is an act of aggression.


http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2008/08/15/27592/mccain-russia/


The truth about South Ossetia

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2008/oct/31/russia-georgia

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
9. Thanks for the truth Polly.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 10:47 AM
Feb 2014

Great Guardian link that.

Broadly speaking this was and remains all about the anachronism known as NATO - the US wants both Georgia and Ukraine in it. There is nothing magnanimous about any offers from either the EU or the US on the subject of Ukraine - more a desire to own it.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
11. So... you don't think Putin's desire to rebuild the Soviet Empire plays any role?
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 10:52 AM
Feb 2014

Not even a little bit?

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
15. The subject of those replies was Georgia.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 11:16 AM
Feb 2014

Russia is not endeavouring to rebuild the USSR - protecting its own borders maybe.

On the subject of the OP, "While we’re watching “Putin’s Olympics”, his policies are killing people in the Ukraine" :

Putin's policies are not doing anything. Russia's interference , if that's what you want to call it, is at present solely using economic leverage. Anyone one else wanting to do so need do no more than match the $15 billion offered by Russia. Currently the EU and US have both said no to that and the IMF had already said no too. Anyone else would also need to cross subsidise Ukraine's gas supplies now that Russia has lowered the price to c. 2/3rds of the daily benchmark price which remains above $400.

wercal

(1,370 posts)
21. I really don't know alot about the reason for the invasion...
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 04:16 PM
Feb 2014

....and after reading the Wikipedia page about it, I feel like I know even less.

Seems to be the same old story - disputed territory, varying versions of events...and the usual outcome: war. It would take me weeks of reading to forma position as to whose 'fault' it was.

The only thing I know with certainty is that it happened during the Olympics, which always struck me as an odd thing.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
22. Yes, during the Olympics. Just like the current brutal measures in Kiev.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 04:34 PM
Feb 2014

Classic use of distraction. While the media was paying attention, the Kremlin and its Ukrainian partners played nice. And as soon as we were watching bobsledding and such, they started killing people, figuring that fewer reporters would be available to cover the bloodshed.

Just like the Georgia conflict during the Beijing Olympics.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
5. watching Sweden-Swiss curling now
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 10:10 AM
Feb 2014

just watched the Canadians get by GB . . .

Watch daily - have yet to hear the games referred to as Putin's Olympics . . .

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
19. If you think I attach any importance to the US media
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 11:30 AM
Feb 2014

then dream on. I doubt you'll find that terminology here in Europe.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
20. So instead of acting as though no one is saying it, it might be better to
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 02:44 PM
Feb 2014

...say to yourself "maybe they are from somewhere else where that IS being said".

bullwinkle428

(20,628 posts)
12. IOC refuses to allow Ukranian athletes to wear black armbands.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 11:04 AM
Feb 2014

No link yet; I just heard this on an AP radio news report.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
13. Speak for yourself, I'm not watching the Bigotry On Ice mini series, starring Vlad Putin and
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 11:04 AM
Feb 2014

the Dancing Homophobes. Prejudice and ignorance are not huge draws for me.

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