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Please post your methamphetamine success stories here (Original Post) reddread Feb 2014 OP
WTF? Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #1
LOL. Here's the explanation: FSogol Feb 2014 #3
Ahhhh....makes sense now Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #19
He walked away and never looked back…12 years... Tikki Feb 2014 #2
... Sheldon Cooper Feb 2014 #4
I like it sprinkled on a fresh arugula salad. nt onehandle Feb 2014 #5
I think Walter White had some success with meth. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #6
! cyberswede Feb 2014 #7
Adderall makes me incredibly optimistic and creative Schema Thing Feb 2014 #8
It turned me into a newt. deaniac21 Feb 2014 #9
cause what we're doing now is working so well. nt xchrom Feb 2014 #10
you mean busting 215 providers? reddread Feb 2014 #11
Andre Agassasi got hooked and I didn't have to suffer through watching him joeybee12 Feb 2014 #12
Paul Erdos hunter Feb 2014 #13
Amphetamine and methamphetamine are different actually. riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #22
Nevertheless amphetamines would probably be an acceptable "safe" drug for meth addicts. hunter Feb 2014 #26
Um... when I had a tweaker for a roommate, many years ago, opiate69 Feb 2014 #14
Well done! Squinch Feb 2014 #15
I did it occasionally, but only because RebelOne Feb 2014 #16
Same here, but it was for cleaning my flat and doing my laundry on Saturday Warpy Feb 2014 #21
On the road? Jesus Malverde Feb 2014 #17
We were able to put the fire out at the trailer park without any firemen's help Brother Buzz Feb 2014 #18
I have successfully avoided it Aerows Feb 2014 #20
It helped me graduate with a 3.0 average in college. Philly Cowboy Feb 2014 #23
Greatest nights of my life! Capt. Obvious Feb 2014 #24
I have to show my license everytime I get cold medication for the kids,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, benld74 Feb 2014 #25
who needs teeth anyway, right? hlthe2b Feb 2014 #27
 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
11. you mean busting 215 providers?
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 02:31 PM
Feb 2014

Dont see too many meth busts in the news, myself.
Like these lizards would be hard to follow to their sources.
its not about law abiding, its about dirty money.
meanwhile, user/victims are making society and infrastructure
truly insecure.
its not that difficult a problem to address.
the corruption is.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
12. Andre Agassasi got hooked and I didn't have to suffer through watching him
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 02:39 PM
Feb 2014

win for about two years!

hunter

(38,310 posts)
13. Paul Erdos
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 02:41 PM
Feb 2014

Paul Erdős (Hungarian: 26 March 1913 – 20 September 1996) was a Hungarian mathematician. Erdős worked with hundreds of collaborators, pursuing problems in combinatorics, graph theory, number theory, classical analysis, approximation theory, set theory, and probability theory. He was also known for his eccentric personality.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Erdős

Harm reduction is easy, but it's not profitable for the drug gangs on either side of the law.

Every addict ought to have a safe place to crash, a place where they will not become a danger to themselves or others.

Most people do not become addicts to any particular drugs.

Those that do, it's nothing more than a public health problem and ought to be treated as such.

Take the profits out, the problem is manageable.

But we've got drug gangs on one side, law enforcement on the other, and all they care about is their funding.

FUCK THAT.


 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
22. Amphetamine and methamphetamine are different actually.
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 03:10 PM
Feb 2014

Both drugs are stimulants of the central nervous system. However, amphetamine is chemically phenylethylamine, while methamphetamine is referred to as N-methylamphetamine.

The effects of meth are much stronger and the onset is much quicker. Experts also believe that a person becomes addicted to meth faster than becoming addicted to amphetamine. However, its absolutely true that both of them are addictive.

Not trying to be nit-picky. Unfortunately, because of a personal family history with addiction, I've learned more than I ever wanted about the different drugs out there.


hunter

(38,310 posts)
26. Nevertheless amphetamines would probably be an acceptable "safe" drug for meth addicts.
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 04:01 PM
Feb 2014

Or even safe meth in a mildly supervised non-judgmental environment. We're human, shit happens, we all have our own human frailties. Some of us it's going to be addiction to certain drugs.

(And those who are addicted to money and political power always do the most damage...)

In any case any sort of humane system is still better than the "legal system" we've got now where addictions like meth are criminalized.

No, I would not hire a meth-head to look after children, maybe not even dogs.

But everyone, addicts included, need a safe place they can can continue to exist for the simple fact they are all our fellow human beings.

 

opiate69

(10,129 posts)
14. Um... when I had a tweaker for a roommate, many years ago,
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 02:44 PM
Feb 2014

I had the cleanest apartment in western Washington...

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
16. I did it occasionally, but only because
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 02:48 PM
Feb 2014

I worked all-nighters at a magazine in Miami and used it to stay awake. But I never became an addict.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
21. Same here, but it was for cleaning my flat and doing my laundry on Saturday
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 03:06 PM
Feb 2014

I stopped because I needed to be active for about four hours, not completely jangled and overamped for twelve. I was like a dishrag on Sunday, limp and barely able to read the paper.

I never did find my drug of choice, not with the most extensive field research in the 60s of anyone I knew. Most of the people I know of my vintage were the same way, finding some things useful, most things just getting in the way, and none of it worth risking prison time.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
17. On the road?
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 02:57 PM
Feb 2014

Kerouac wrote it while tweaking...

Kerouac took so much amphetamine when he first discovered the inhaler high that he lost most of his hair and his legs swelled up with thrombophlebitis. As he wrote to Ginsberg in November of 1945, “Benny [Benzedrine] has made me see a lot. The process of intensifying awareness naturally leads to an overflow of old notions, and voila, new material wells up like water forming its proper level, and makes itself evident at the brim of consciousness. Brand new water! The art of my past is all farce, or at least mostly.” Not just any drug would do. It was the particular quality of amphetamine, the acceleration of thought and feeling, that helped him plumb his unconscious and live “in the Now.”


http://www.thefix.com/content/beat-poets-speed5123

Taking meth makes the user more alert. The heart races, breathing quickens and sweat glands kick into overdrive. Users may become extremely talkative or withdraw into a private sphere of self-interest. They often feel superhuman, empowered, more intelligent and more perceptive.

Users can also maintain their interest in mundane activities for great lengths of time. As a result, performance of repetitive tasks continues at a high level for hours and hours, when normally it might wane due to boredom. Assembly-line workers and others who perform the same physical motion over and over suddenly find their work to be invigorating and even fascinating when on crystal meth. Where life once seemed dreary and methodical, meth users may find that the drug keeps them "tuned in" to their work, speeding up their thoughts as well as their perception of the passing of time.

Appetite is nearly nonexistent for someone on meth. This may make the drug seem tempting to a person trying to lose weight, but weight won't be the only thing that person loses. Over time, teeth decay, crack and fall out of the skull, a condition known as "meth mouth." Lesions can form on the skin from excessive scratching.


Good for armies
Nazi leaders distributed millions of doses of methamphetamine in tablets called Pervitin to their infantry, sailors and airmen in World War II. It wasn't just the military that was amping up on the stuff -- Pervitin was sold to the German public beginning in 1938, and over-the-counter meth became quite popular. When supplies ran low on the war front, soldiers would write to their families requesting shipments of speed. In one four-month period in 1940, the German military was fed more than 35 million speed tablets. Though the pills were known to cause adverse health effects in some soldiers, it was also immediately realized that stimulants went a long way toward the Nazi dream of creating supersoldiers. As the war neared its conclusion, a request was sent from high command for a drug that would boost morale and fighting ability, and Germany's scientists responded with a pill called D-IX that contained equal parts cocaine and painkiller (5 mg of each), as well as Pervitin (3 mg). The pill was put into a testing stage, but the war ended before it reached the general military population.

The Nazis weren't the only ones jacking up their soldiers on pharmaceutical speed -- the Americans and the British were also consuming large amounts of amphetamines, namely Dexedrine. The Japanese had developed its own military-grade amphetamine, and when the war ended a large stockpile of the drug flooded the streets of Japan.

After World War II, amphetamine was manufactured, sold and prescribed in the United States and much of the world. By the late 1950s and early '60s, it was becoming harder for the medical community to ignore the growing number of professionals-turned-speed-freaks who had become hopelessly hooked on Benzedrine and Dexedrine. Also, it had been discovered that Benzedrine inhalers (intended for use as bronchial dilators) could be cracked open, exposing a piece of paper soaked in Benzedrine that could then be swallowed for a powerful high. This led to increased American government control over amphetamines -- and therefore to Americans making their own amphetamines.


http://science.howstuffworks.com/meth.htm

Not even once...

Brother Buzz

(36,416 posts)
18. We were able to put the fire out at the trailer park without any firemen's help
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 03:03 PM
Feb 2014

And you got no proof we were cooking meth, so stop saying that!

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