Most dangerous countries in the world?

[RedstDem]

in your opinion, what countries pose the biggest threat to world peace?



I'll start by saying I think the number one most dangerous country is North Korea.
but, I'm not as informed as many on the goings on around the globe, do think NK, or someplace else?

[MMcGuire]

1. USA

[RedstDem]

3. the usa is more a puppet master isnt it?

or do you think our next president bush will just start going nuts

[MMcGuire]

12. American global hegemony.

Is still desired by large numbers of Americans, even some that are on the surface generally against imperialism. On top of that I worry about states that may give lip service to international law, but has no desire to adhere to the same standards.

[MMcGuire]

13. The whole Bush dynasty.

That had a grown man go to war over hearing a voice in his head. Brings worry to a whole new level!

[Iggo]

54. And puppet masters ain't dangerous?

[newfie11]

2. USA

[RedstDem]

5. really?

what about Israel, or Russia, or North Korea?
where do they land on the list.

[newfie11]

11. Do these ring a bell

Vietnam, Pakistan, Yemen, Iraq, and of course the wars we don't admit to funding such as El Salvador, probably Somalia and God knows where else.

[blkmusclmachine]

4. You have to ask?!?!

[RedstDem]

6. well...yeah

I'm not going to demand your opinion.

lol.

[Violet_Crumble]

7. Australia

It's very very dangerous.

[NuclearDem]

49. I knew they were up to something.

Half of that country's wildlife has to have been created by a mad scientist.

[Ichingcarpenter]

8. Canada....and Justin Bieber

The Canadians. They walk among us. William Shatner. Michael J. Fox. Monty Hall. Mike Meyers. Alex Trebek. All of them Canadians. All of them here.

Like maple syrup, Canada's evil oozes over the United States. Canadians are always dreaming up a lotta ways to ruin our lives. The metric system, for the love of God! Celsius! Neil Young!

[1awake]

43. lol.. thank you for the chuckle.. that was funny! n/t

[NuclearDem]

50. Worst part is, they're expert infiltrators.

[Notafraidtoo]

9. The US sadly

We go to war for our best interest any chance we get, its easy to be bias about the US when you are born here but if you take an unbiased look we are the true war mongers and biggest threat to peace in the world. Most of the negative stuff that is said about other nations in our media and from our government is the same shit we do ourselves, we are a very hypocritical nation.


We kill innocent foreign civilians by the tens of thousands, we kill our own civilians by the thousands, we have the most prisoners in the world and we put them behind bars because they have drug addictions or are of a certain race or class, we spy on our own citizens, we don't investigate rape cases by the tens of thousands, we have slavery and those slave masters are protected because they are wealthy, other country's will be wiped off the map because we refuse to do anything about our oil addiction, we force other nations to submit to our trade policy's at the expense of their people, we let police beat and kill protesters, we let people starve even though we are the wealthiest nation on the planet, we kill people in other country's with drones most of the deaths have been innocent. it goes on and on this nation is just as sick as those we criticize.

[Fumesucker]

10. The Duchy of Grand Fenwick of course

Everyone knows that.

[Bluenorthwest]

37. Really good answer.

Best of thread.

[davidpdx]

14. It doesn't surprise me, but does disgust me that DUers would say the US

I don't know whether to write them off as internet trolls or what.

North Korea is very dangerous. I happen to live about 26 km from the boarder. I have been up to the DMZ. Bill Clinton got it right when he called it "the scariest place on earth".

In addition to the nuclear weapons and missile tests, the sinking of the ROKS Cheonan and the bombing of Yeongpyung have both caused the death of South Koreans. The human rights violations of their own people has been well documented and I have heard first hand accounts from defectors.

While I have no doubt the US has made mistakes, anyone holding them up against North Korea and says we are worse is a fool.

[Scuba]

15. Worse? Not in terms of how we treat our people, no. But more dangerous? Certainly.

[davidpdx]

17. Maybe you should take a moment to stop bashing your own country

and realize that we have it pretty well compared to North Koreans. We can still stand up for ourselves. In terms of danger, Uncle Kim with his nuclear weapons are pretty damn dangerous.

[Scuba]

20. Uncle Kim's nuclear weapons are not a threat since he can't deliver them. The US ....

... on the other hand has used depleted uranium weapons in Iraq and elsewhere.

Did N. Korea start the war in Iraq based on a bunch of lies? No? Well, what wars have they started since, say, 1950? What countries have they invaded?

You can call it 'bashing'. I call it telling the truth in an effort to make our country better.

[davidpdx]

21. North Korea could make a dirty bomb fairly easily

I think you underestimate the damage North Korea could do.

In terms of bashing, you don't tell anything close to the truth given your brash ideological hatred of the US and the president. I've never heard anything out of your mouth positive about the president or the country.

I have no problem in saying we have done things that are wrong and they should never happen again or that we need to fix certain things. But when you are stepping on the SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEECHHHHHHHHHHHHHH note 24/7 it only goes to prove what you are.

[Violet_Crumble]

23. The question was which country is the biggest threat to world peace...

North Korea just doesn't have the power and the resources to be a global threat, just a local one. The US on the other hand is the global hegemon, and has been unrestrained in what it does since the balancing superpower of the Soviet Union ceased to exist.

If the Republicans gain power in 2016, do you really think that the US wouldn't become a big threat, especially given what we saw Bushco do?

[davidpdx]

24. I agree if the Republicans gained power again we would probably have a problem on our hands

Then again, the two wars are not that far removed from where we will be. I think so much time had passed since the Vietnam era and so much apathy had built up prior to 2000-2001 that there were not enough people being vocal about the opposition to war.

Yes, we have a powerful military. No doubt about that. China doesn't yet, but give them about 5-10 years.

My point with North Korea is they are in a proximity to disrupt three big economies in the world: South Korea, Japan, and China. We pretty much know China would fall on the side of North Korea. Japan and South Korea are rather large trading partners with the US. It really only takes an attack against one of them to start a spark. The economic effect would be felt in the US as well as the fact we'd probably be drawn into a conflict. Theoretically it would take a single missile.

[Scuba]

25. I think you underestimate the damage the US is doing.

Please tell me more about my "brash ideological hatred of the US and the president". A link or two where I espouse such hatred would be good for your case.

Don't forget the parts about my serving in the USAF for six years or working for Obama's 2008 and 2012 campaigns.

Finally, if you only want to be a cheerleader, recommend you stay in the BOG group.

[davidpdx]

29. Oh, there it is

Cheerleader, couldn't resist could you. You have to pull out the line. What's next cool-aid?

Proof, every other thread you are screaching about Obama or the US.

I challenge you to show me something positive you've said about either in the last 90 days.

As for where I will stay, I'm comfortable right here thank you very much.

[Scuba]

30. Hey, it's your claim, you prove it.

[davidpdx]

34. I apologize

It wasn't you. DU has just been ticking me off lately. I think I need to take a break.

I do disagree with you on the question of the danger of North Korea.

[Scuba]

35. Accepted. I also probably need a break.

BTW, I don't disagree that N. Korea is dangerous.

[Scuba]

16. The US, by a wide margin.

[Democracyinkind]

18. Most dangerous to whom? To its own citizens? To other countries?

Not sure that there is a clear answer there. I think we are very likely to start the next world war, but that's a game that takes more than one to play. But mostly it's the waning empire that starts them.

I do not believe that North Korea poses any significant danger to other countries, while it surely is one of the most dangerous countries for its inhabitants. These people want to stay in power, and they'll lose what little they got as soon as the first shots are returned.

[wocaonimabi]

19. Without an doubt the USA

NK, no big deal, China will keep them in check because China does not want millions of North Korean refugees coming across the border.

Heck if things got bad enough in NK, China would do a regime change in NK just to keep the refugees out of China.

[onethatcares]

28. maybe they could

hire Sheriff Joe and his band of unmerry men for border enforcement.

Two problems solved.

[Lurker Deluxe]

58. So ...

If the US just up and walked away from the DMZ, North Korea would not take action against South Korea because .... China?

LOL!

Yea, that's it.

North Korea is not Iraq, they have the third largest standing army in the world, and if you include inactive they have the largest fighting force on the planet in sheer numbers. Almost 40% of thier population is military. To create "regime change" would most likely take killing 50% of the population, over 10M people.

No big deal.

[wocaonimabi]

60. NO NK is not going to start a war

China will not let NK get close to war. NK does not fear the USA but they fear China. China likes to make money, war is expensive and creates uncertainty.

NK will eventually collapse just like all communist regimes the question is when and how.

[bowens43]

22. I dont think NK is a threat anyone except North Koreans. The US and Israel are two greatest threats

[RedstDem]

38. that's pretty close to my thinking too

I've got NK as number one, though
Then Israel and Pakistan fight for number two
I don't think the us is a threat, as opposed to many posters on this thread.

As far as who's next to use atomic weapons: Israel.

[onethatcares]

26. I'd look at it this way.

which country spends the most on its military?

That should be a prime indicator.

[Niceguy1]

27. not the USA for sure

Despite what the bashing squad claims....Russia maybe or any number of the arab spring messes that are festering.

[MMcGuire]

36. Its a question of imperialist/hegemonic desires and at last resort

having the military means to deliver it. Numerous countries can be considered localized threats, to the local population or to bordering populations but what is meant by threat and appearing on Americans radar is challenging America's world hegemony. In other words states that are under hegemony becoming political unstable, strategic or states that can challenge US hegemony.

[tom_kelly]

31. US - How many wars of choice are we fighting???

[ReRe]

32. No question:

... hands down, USA. IMHO.

[theHandpuppet]

33. Depends on how you define threat

The countries that have the lion's share of the world's wealth always pose a threat to peace -- not just a military peace but an economic one.

If you're talking about a nuclear threat, Pakistan, probably.

[Lost_Count]

39. China, India , Russia via economics...

[cpwm17]

40. If it is just the total threat to the entire world

it's obviously the US. We're the most powerful nation, and we have a large military that many politicians have granted themselves the right to use against anyone in the world that isn't the right kind of person. The history is there and it isn't good. The US treats its own citizens pretty well, though.

To be fair, maybe we should be asking who is the biggest threat in the world, pound for pound. That has to be Israel. They have started numerous aggressive wars. Israel receives more support from the most powerful and dangerous nation in the world (the US) than any other and its crazy supporters in the US lobby the US to start more wars. Israel treats almost half of the citizens under its control (Israel/Palestine is essentially one nation) as second class to subhuman citizens. If every nation on Earth behaved as Israel the world would be totally f#@*ed – so much crap from such a tiny nation.

Other candidates are North Korea for how it treats its own citizens and Saudi Arabia for the religious garbage and radicalism it spreads throughout the world.

[TBF]

41. Let's look at the countries

by military expenditure (data re 2012) -



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures

[woo me with science]

42. "Are we the baddies?"

[1awake]

44. In no specific order....

Russia, England, and the US.

ALL three are messing around in multiple places in the world exerting pressure while promoting their own agenda.


Now if you would have asked 3 that are the most ..."evil" then it would be

North Korea, China, and the third would be a toss up between several.

But never forget Australia... they are the worst. Their accent has done more to destabilize people around the world than any other thing!

[woo me with science]

45. kick

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

46. USA. Falling empires get desperate to preserve themselves.

[mainer]

47. add on question: in which country are tourists most likely to get murdered?

According to this, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Somalia (no surprise.)

http://www.examiner.com/article/the-dangerous-dozen-the-12-most-dangerous-countries-for-americans-to-visit

I'm surprised to see Vietnam in the top-10. I assume it's from accidents, and not murder, because the traffic in Vietnam is insane.

[NightWatcher]

48. Depends what natural resources you're sitting on

If the USA (or trans-global corpos residing therein) wants what you've got, you're up the creek minus paddle.

[NuclearDem]

51. The US, by simple virtue of the instability we cause through our actions.

Though the leaderships of Russia, North Korea, Syria, and Israel aren't exactly working hard towards stability themselves.

As a preemptive defense against "you're just America bashing": this is an anti-imperialism point, not anti-US. When the British were in the same position, they were the greatest threat to world peace, and the USSR shared plenty of the blame during the Cold War for instability, and if the tables were somehow flipped that Russia or China were in our position now as a hyperpower with military bases in 200 countries, they would be too. Peace and imperialism can't coexist.

[MuseRider]

52. We are. We don't go to war at the blink of an eye

we go BEFORE the blink of an eye.

We will take down whoever we decide would be most beneficial to us to take down. War? Not always, but we disturb the peace of every country we decide to involve ourselves in.

We need to stop stirring up the world. We need to stop stirring up ourselves. We need to stop and realize we are MEMBERS of the planet, nobody ever asked us to run the thing alone.

I hate to say this having been raised on all the goodness of this country but it was crap, propaganda of the highest degree all the while selling us the "Better dead than red" BS that was so popular.

I love my country but I hate what it has done to the rest of the world and I am not terribly happy about what it is doing to itself these days either.

There are a lot of countries that are dangerous, this is true, however we are big and wealthy and we spend most of our wealth to stir up shit or bomb up shit elsewhere. How is that ever going to make things turn out well?

[FarCenter]

53. Democratic Republic of Congo -- 45,000 dead / month

Conflict and humanitarian crisis in the Democratic Republic of Congo have taken the lives of 5.4 million people since 1998 and continue to leave as many as 45,000 dead every month, according to a major International Rescue Committee study.

http://www.rescue.org/special-reports/special-report-congo-y

[cpwm17]

55. At least one could call the Democratic Republic of Congo the world's worst hell-hole n/t

[kwassa]

57. The greatest toll in the modern era of mass murder, and mostly ignored by the world. Millions.

It is more the lack of government in the eastern Congo that allows this to happen.

[FarCenter]

59. The basic function of government is to maintain a monopoly on the use of violence

Eastern Congo is a good example of what happens when the monopoly fails.

[L0oniX]

56. If corporations had their own country then that country would be the most dangerous.

They profit from blood.