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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 03:49 AM Feb 2014

GOP & Religious Right Looks At Gays The Same Way Nazis Looked At Jews.

The new ploy by the GOP and religious right is a very dangerous one. What next jailing or even shooting gays. Don't kid yourself we have a psychopath party that is out of control and are willing to do anything. Whatever they say about liberal"s for progressive's imagined repressive or even violent agenda is what THEY are planning to do if they get power.

What is worse if the RW is now working on spreading this hate internationally. Look at Russia and Uganda. They were on the ground pushing their hate there.

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GOP & Religious Right Looks At Gays The Same Way Nazis Looked At Jews. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Feb 2014 OP
Actually, they look at them in the same way BlueMTexpat Feb 2014 #1
The Nazis viewed us the same way. See my avatar. Behind the Aegis Feb 2014 #2
Much More Dangerous Than Is Obvious And The Public Realizes. TheMastersNemesis Feb 2014 #3
Not nearly as dangerous as blow it up to be. cali Feb 2014 #5
I'd guess that most of the public is better informed than you are. Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #7
oh for fuck's sake. you pen some really, er, hard to swallow claims cali Feb 2014 #4
+1 onenote Feb 2014 #8
Your attempt to spread fear and panic is hindered by your lack of historical knowledge Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #6
Same play, different cast and time. nt ladjf Feb 2014 #9
This is inaccurate and ahistorical, so doesn't help people organize effectively struggle4progress Feb 2014 #10
Name names YarnAddict Feb 2014 #11
Of course they don't, don't be so silly. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #12

BlueMTexpat

(15,366 posts)
1. Actually, they look at them in the same way
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 04:55 AM
Feb 2014

that the Nazis did. Homosexuals were a specifically targeted group under the Nazi Reich, just as were Jews, Roma, Jehovah's Witnesses and the "disabled" (which had a very broad definition). When they were discovered (not always as obvious as the other categories), they were sent to concentration camps, forced to wear pink triangles to denote their homosexuality, and were singled out to receive horrific treatment - often combined with attempts to "reprogram" their sexual orientation.

See http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/Homosexuals_and_the_Third_Reich.html and http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005261

For a good overview, see also the Wiki version: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_homosexuals_in_Nazi_Germany_and_the_Holocaust

Behind the Aegis

(53,951 posts)
2. The Nazis viewed us the same way. See my avatar.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 05:23 AM
Feb 2014

The Men with the Pink Triangle: The True Life-and-Death Story of Homosexuals in the Nazi Death Camps
The first, and still the best known, testimony by a gay survivor of the Nazi concentration camps translated into English, this harrowing autobiography opened new doors onto the understanding of homosexuality and the Holocaust when it was first published in 1980 by Gay Men's Press. THE MEN WITH THE PINK TRIANGLE has been translated into several languages, with a second edition published in 1994 by Alyson Books. Heger's book also inspired the 1979 play Bent by Martin Sherman which was filmed as the 1997 movie of the same name, directed by Sean Mathias.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Pink-Triangle-Life-Death/dp/1459608399

The right-wing is incredibly dangerous. They are becoming stronger, but people are fighting back, which is why, IMO, they have taken their show on the road. We should remain vigilant.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
7. I'd guess that most of the public is better informed than you are.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 09:17 AM
Feb 2014

You don't seem to even know the basics of the history.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
4. oh for fuck's sake. you pen some really, er, hard to swallow claims
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 08:15 AM
Feb 2014

this doesn't even begin to be a new ploy. they've been doing it forever. also their power has been most ineffectual. LGBT rights, and yes there are setbacks, have increased hugely and the odds that wingnuts will change that trajectory of expanding rights, are very slim. the wingnuts have, oth, had huge success with their forced birth agenda.

In any case, to me, you are an example of someone demonizing- and it takes alot for me to say that about someone because they are so despicable- but you're constantly setting up these scenarios going oooh boogie boogie man they're going to kill you. well, maybe so but the scenarios are pretty unlikely. For one thing they are opposed to corporate America which has actually been on the forward curve- whatever their reasons, and corporate power trumps religious right power, where their interests aren't aligned, each and every time.

You trumpet erroneous declarations here over and over.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
6. Your attempt to spread fear and panic is hindered by your lack of historical knowledge
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 09:15 AM
Feb 2014

The Republicans look at gay people just like the Nazis looked at gay people. Duh. Boo! Be afraid!!!!!

struggle4progress

(118,278 posts)
10. This is inaccurate and ahistorical, so doesn't help people organize effectively
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 03:58 PM
Feb 2014

Within two months of Hitler's appointment as chancellor, Nazis were organizing boycotts of businesses owned by Jews; soon afterwards, Jews were removed from civil service jobs; and in less than two years, the Nürnberg Laws passed, stripping Jews of ordinary citizenship rights

The GOP certainly has a certain number of ugly bigots in its current ranks, partly as a result of its long-term strategy of reaching out to fringe groups for votes -- but over many years, the overall movement of the country as a whole on LGBT issues has been in a positive direction, and this is true for many Republicans as well

The Nazis adopted an eliminationist ideology towards "the Jews" that systematically stripped them of rights, treated them as objects, and then murdered them en masse. Nothing we currently see in US political practice is comparable




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Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
12. Of course they don't, don't be so silly.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 07:26 PM
Feb 2014

The GOP's attitude to gay rights is deplorable, but comparing it to genocide just makes you - and, more worryingly, supporters of gay rights in general - look idiotic.

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