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Good God, they're serious: Mormons Declar War on Masturbation.
Think that's the living end of self-parody? Read on:
"The enemy whispers 'Dont get involved, its not your problem.' Brothers and sisters, don't leave the wounded on the battlefield."
The crazy is strong in this one!!!!!
Here's the actual Public (snark!) service announcement:
The "Guide to Self-Control" excerpt from the Mormon pamphlet sounds like pages from the Boy Scout manual of the 1950s.
Sounds like great recruitment material for the Mormons, doesn't it? All ya gotta do is:
- Give up all sex outside marriage
- Give up masturbation
Of course, the Devil can still send you 'wet dreams' and nocturnal emissions.
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)riqster
(13,986 posts)One of the worse ideas I ever came across. Not a stroke of genius.
What are they trying to pull?
Pinboy3niner, we need more puns...
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)LeftofObama
(4,243 posts)I hope no one gets rubbed out over it. That could get messy!
riqster
(13,986 posts)LeftofObama
(4,243 posts)but the box was empty.
Sweet Freedom
(3,995 posts)dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)off hand.
riqster
(13,986 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)hard to handle.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)'I've got something in my hand for you...'
My response:
'Honey, if it fits in your hand, I'm not interested.'
*sound of dial-tone*
They didn't call back.
riqster
(13,986 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)So we could be called in for emergencies, etc. And it had to be listed like our paychecks, so the gender was there. Soon, because of the harrassment of female employees, we were allowed to have our paychecks with just our initials.
I had one that followed me from one phone number to another, because I had to let the phone company give the new numbers for emergencies. He had been calling me for a while after midnight, and I'd answer when he told me what he wanted to do with me, with 'Uh, what?'
He'd repeat his proposition, to which I'd generally still not be fully awake, 'Wha?'
He'd keep on going, and when I finally got his plan repeated, I'd say, 'Uh, you got the wrong number, I don't DO any of that.'
My friend's approach was a bit different. She'd engage them in conversation, the guy who wanted to masturbate to her voice, and explain, yes, she knew what was really wrong, and she was sooo sorry.
He fell for that, and asked her what did she think was wrong?
She would go into a detailed description of erectile dysfunction and how she really, really did sympathize with him, it must be hurting his self-esteem, and all of that.
He'd hang up in a huff, then call back the next night with the same thing, and she kept on being very kind while he exclaimed that his uh, thing, was in perfect working order!
She finally began to give him the names of doctors he could go to and get his erectile dysfuntion cured, as she knew it really did make him feel bad, so bad that he had to call up unknown women in the middle of the night for sympathy. And that she was very, very sad.
He finally gave up, as nothing but a personal inspection of him would have proven that he was not suffering from a condition that deprived him of girlfriends, sex and all of that.
She was quite a character...
riqster
(13,986 posts)joeybee12
(56,177 posts)loli phabay
(5,580 posts)joeybee12
(56,177 posts)back.
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)1000words
(7,051 posts)"F.A.P."
riqster
(13,986 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Keep your hands out of your Magic Underwear or you don't get a magic planet when you die
Journeyman
(15,031 posts)Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)wocaonimabi
(187 posts)Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)They seem to be sending mixed messages.
riqster
(13,986 posts)That would have been Supreme irony.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)riqster
(13,986 posts)ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)"Toooooommmy, how's the peeping?"
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)Zorra
(27,670 posts)dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)"Its mine : I'll wash it as fast as I want to".
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)loli phabay
(5,580 posts)Iggo
(47,549 posts)Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)LongTomH
(8,636 posts)Like I said, the Boy Scout manual warned against masturbation, giving their own tips for avoiding temptation.
One advice was, if you're practicing masturbation, talk to your pastor.......Not a good idea on any level!
Edited to add: Is it any wonder that the US is way down on the list of sexually satisfied countries?
Deep13
(39,154 posts)Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)loli phabay
(5,580 posts)Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)and anything that relates to the invisible man in the sky must be respected, because...
something or other.
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)when they start to tell me what my sexual appetites should be and use their religion to try to force me then thats when i have issues, until then its live and let live. though i do laugh at the nuttiness of it.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)Got to hand it to the Mormons though, their brand of crazy is pure comedy gold.
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)problem is everyone believes their beliefs are right, me included, and thats where the problems lie.
Vashta Nerada
(3,922 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Sigh, sigh, eyeroll, eyeroll, sigh.
1000words
(7,051 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Common Sense Party
(14,139 posts)Not once. But do carry on.
LongTomH
(8,636 posts)Or did you read the part about the "Guide to Self-Control?"
or.....
What did you think they were talking about?
Common Sense Party
(14,139 posts)LongTomH
(8,636 posts)Be assured that you can be cured of your difficulty. Many have been, both male and female, and you can be also if you determine that it must be so.
Common Sense Party
(14,139 posts)and it was being spun as an anti-masturbation video. Yet it does not mention that word.
The pamphlet may or may not be the work of a Mormon leader, but if so, it's at least 30 years old, so has very little to do with that weird war video.
FreeState
(10,570 posts)Page 46-47
The Lord con demns selfabuse. Selfabuse is the act of stimulating the procreative power of ones own body. President Boyd K. Packer, President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, said:
Do not be guilty of tampering or playing with this sacred power of creation. . . .
. . . It is not pleasing to the Lord, nor is it pleasing to you. It does not make you feel worthy or clean.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)and if you shake it more than 500 times you may be playing with it
Rex
(65,616 posts)Idle hands play with the Devil's dingaling or something stupid like that.
KansDem
(28,498 posts)...deck
Earth_First
(14,910 posts)[center][/center]
temporary311
(955 posts)and Jesus is a pervert.
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)skypilot
(8,853 posts)...about going to the kitchen to get something to eat if the urge to fap is getting too strong, I couldn't help but think about the movie "American Pie".
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)riqster
(13,986 posts)ladjf
(17,320 posts)central scrutinizer
(11,648 posts)By James O. Thach TOP 500 REVIEWER on December 8, 2013
Size Name: 85 Count
I want to start this off by thanking Kleenex for selling these in 36-packs. I've put it on subscription, and if they want to start selling a 72-pack, sign me up. I have three reasons for needing this much Kleenex, and their names are Liam, Samuel and Hank.
This is how it goes in this house. First the Kleenex disappears. Then the toilet paper. Then they go for fabrics. And you don't want it to get there, unless you're ready to invest in a five gallon drum of Fabreeze.
This used to be a good Christian home. But it's not about moral judgment anymore. I'm way beyond that. I'm in survival mode. If I don't supply absorbent paper products, I'm going to find my dish towels hidden in the basement, stiff as aluminum. The other day, I almost cut my hand on a sock. I am sorry to speak so frankly, but with three teenage boys, a woman has got to be practical.
The funny part is, they think they're being sneaky, with their 45 minute showers and sudden need for "privacy", as if I'm going to walk in on them journaling. They slink around the house like unfixed cats, while I try to announce my location at all times. No one needs to ask me to knock anymore. I knock on the walls. I practically wear a cow bell. I'm not looking to catch anyone by surprise, believe me. I'm just trying to get through this.
The other day my husband was watching me unload the groceries, and he asks me, all sweetness and light, "Honey, what're you doing with all that Kleenex?"
I about knocked him off his chair.
Blue Owl
(50,348 posts)hunter
(38,310 posts)Grow the religion!
That's how this works.
One amazing thing about those who practice these sorts of traditional (and repressive) religious sexual and marriage rituals (not just Mormons!) is how the first child is often born completely developed and of normal weight after just six months of pregnancy, not nine!
My siblings and I knew all about sex, birth control, etc., years before we cared much about it. None of us had kids as teenagers, or even before we were out on our own and in stable living situations. None of us were "forced" into marriage as a consequence of sexual longings or misadventures. Even as reckless teens with minds not fully adult we mostly knew what we were doing.
We had a Mormon neighbor when I was a teen, he didn't know anything. He either stole (or maybe my mom was worried about him and gave him...) a somewhat explicit book about human sexuality. It had pictures. His parents found the book a few weeks later and he was banned from our household.
Such banishments were nothing new in our house.
While my mom and her friends were still nursing their younger children, well into toddler hood, they didn't cover up much; they would nurse a hungry kid anywhere, anytime.
I remember one of my neighborhood playmates, we were about ten, STARING at my mom and my youngest brother. I'm certain he'd never seen or even imagined anything like that.
After that he became yet another kid who wasn't allowed to visit our home.
TygrBright
(20,756 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Aristus
(66,316 posts)This is a religion where you have to wear underwear even in the bathtub. And you can't drink coffee, let alone alcohol. And they have an attitude toward masturbation right out of the 1850's. Nobody wants to join this crazy-ass religion, so they have to breed new parishoners...
demwing
(16,916 posts)Last edited Tue Feb 25, 2014, 09:40 AM - Edit history (1)
The LDS Church is one of the fastest growing Churches in the US.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)and the need to be part of the most socialist system in America.. just for LDS though. The absurdity of their hypocrisy is crowned by their incessant political disdain of socialism while socialism it what keeps the LDS from leaving the LDS. Birth to the grave, they are covered for education, housing, food and disaster relief for their prophesied 7 years of famine.. as long as they pay the bill and do the churches will.
demwing
(16,916 posts)I'm open to your proof (about growth rate causes)
defacto7
(13,485 posts)After reading my post again I wasn't very clear on the comment about birth rate increasing due to Mormon policies. That was a flippant remark about post #60 who made a comment about "15 kids" which is not far from the truth. It's not a requirement, just a sign of the blessings of Elohim (god) for allowing souls to leave another existence to live on this planet. Many children means you are blessed. I would call that advertising for very large families and for polygamy which was very recently made legal in Utah. Before that, many lied.
The second remark comes strait from one who lives and works in the center of Mormonism, me. If you want proof of much of anything concerning secret LDS activities you'll find little outside of the first hand experiences of those who live it and work with Utah Mormons as well as those who have taken the sometimes difficult leap away from the organization. I have written too profusely on the subject here on DU in the past and really don't intend on repeating those comments. There are a couple of pretty good books about Mormon history and beliefs written by former Mormons or historians. One that comes to mind is Under the Banner of Heaven written by Jon Krakauer. As you can probably tell I have little use for the Mormon religion or its corporate and legal power base. The Mormon church is the ultimate example of the detrimental effects of allowing the separation of church and state to be bridged. The hierarchy has never hesitated in its history to lie, manipulate or just simply transform their doctrine to get their desired results.
There are many very good people among the general population of the LDS and there are many who are not so good at all. But all in all, my experience and opinion is that they are either following a lie and know it, are part of the clandestine political and corporate machine that most Mormons try to ignore, they are brainwashed or they are thoroughly deluded.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)Actually, there is a site, a report, a study and plenty of propaganda that will tell you exactly what you want to hear. The US census says it does not track religious affiliation. Therefore, choose your own facts. Here are some examples:
This one says Mormonism is the fastest growing religion in half of the US, 26 states to be exact mostly in the sparsely populated west. There are several other news sites that say the same.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/02/mormonism-fastest-growing-religion_n_1469566.html
According to the Christian Broadcasting Network (ugh)
http://www.cbn.com/spirituallife/churchandministry/evangelism/mormons_are_fastest_growing_religion.aspx
This is the only site where Mormons won the race.
This one says Islam..
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100250598/lots-of-atheists-more-muslims-fewer-christians-and-jews-this-is-the-new-america/
so does this one
http://www.tellmeaboutislam.com/islam-is-the-fastest-growing-religion-in-the-usa.html
Another says Deism, Buddhism, and Sikhism but it's old data.
Another says Witchcraft
http://www.thesleuthjournal.com/fastest-growing-religion-america-witchcraft/#
and Pew reports says 1 in 5 Americans have no religious affiliation at all.
demwing
(16,916 posts)Or #2, or even #5. In fact, the LDS Church itself refuses to claim the number 1 spot:
http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/topic/church-growtg
"Such comparisons rarely take account of a multiplicity of complex factors, including activity rates and death rates, the methodology used in registering or counting members and what factors constitute membership"
Despite the disclaimer, the same LDS statement includes the following:
Whatever the ranking, this study (along with the CBN report, the US News & World Report it cited, and the HuffPo piece you mentioned), all support my actual point - the LDS church is experiencing great growth, and the claim that no one wants to join this religion is incorrect.
However, to be fair, I've edited my previous post so as to more accurately reflect my thoughts.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)that no one wants to join this religion. That was not true.
Thank you for editing your claim that "The LDS Church is the fastest growing Church in the US." which was erroneous, where "one of the fastest growing" is correct and I suppose that was the exercise here. It seems one could still accept the claim that the LDS church is the fastest growing in 26 states as of 2012 data.
Keep in mind, there are a multitude of claims in biased as well as less biased studies concerning the subjects of the condition, growth, size, wealth and recent changes in religion, religious sects and the non-religious. The gamut of data calculation is very wide which seems to imply that It's more subjective than objective.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)And that's not fair.
I just tell my kids to please, please, please, go in your room and close the door if you want to self sooth. It's disturbing when they do it in public, and this is probably the reason I always see little boys just playing with it at the pool. Not allowed at home.
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)Between this and crazy Ted Nugent spewing out his vile hate it's clear a good part of the right has gone insane. What's amazing is how people like Gingrich can give this stuff a pass.
Meanwhile what's "The Onion" to do?
Token Republican
(242 posts)what is meant by penal laws.
But seriously, doesn't the bible give guidance here?
http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_law/sexual_discharges/lv15_16a.html
tanyev
(42,550 posts)TBF
(32,047 posts)in this field of study ...
Cofitachequi
(112 posts)Give piece a chance!!!!
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)As a vegan, I'm not okay with choking chickens and spanking monkeys.
madinmaryland
(64,931 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)"signature issue"
Kingofalldems
(38,444 posts)Who is the enemy?
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)rub those Mormons the wrong way.
Blue Idaho
(5,048 posts)This is my dick. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
My dick is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life.
My dick, without me, is useless. Without my dick, I am useless. I must fire my dick true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will...
My dick and I know that what counts in this war is not the rounds we fire, the noise of our burst, nor the smoke we make. We know that it is the hits that count. We will hit...
My dick is human, even as I, because it is my life. Thus, I will learn it as a brother. I will learn its weaknesses, its strength, its parts, its accessories, its sights and its barrel. I will keep my dick clean and ready, even as I am clean and ready. We will become part of each other. We will...
Before God, I swear this creed. My dick and I are the defenders of my country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life.
So be it, until victory is America's and there is no enemy.
Can I have an amen Bishop Clark?
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Blue Idaho
(5,048 posts)Can I say that?
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)jsr
(7,712 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Unless you are donating, LEAVE IT ALONE!
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)the greatest generation and the good war!!!!! Now that is actually funny. I know why they did not chose more recent conflicts though.
progressoid
(49,978 posts)pintobean
(18,101 posts)Well, that's what I've heard.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)... it better be to lend a hand!!
wocaonimabi
(187 posts)defacto7
(13,485 posts)But I think a strait jacket would be helpful in their quest for godly cleanliness. If that doesn't work then I suggest the rack or the iron maiden in that order. I'm sure that will quell their desires.
spinbaby
(15,088 posts)The Jugum Penis was intended to cure "spermatorrhoea", a Victorian-era name for nocturnal emissions. The device was fashioned out of a metal ring, which would fit at the base of the penis and was attached with a clip. Essentially, a bear trap for erections.
http://www.pinterest.com/pin/79094537177114201/
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Highly effective.
LongTomH
(8,636 posts).....and this isn't the worst!
And no, I'm neither anti-Christian nor atheist; but, Christians need to admit their religion has a dark side.
As Helen Ellerbe stated in: The Dark Side of Christian History:
I recommend the book heartily. Even if you disagree with much of what she says, it will give you some things to ponder.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)RKP5637
(67,104 posts)Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)Yeah, that's a real good formula for a happy marriage.
And have lots of children you can't afford nor give enough attention to.
Cults come in all sizes.
What do they do about Big Os during dreams? Those are involuntary. And happen in both genders.
Guess Jesus just can't issue you your sex drive with your state-issued screwing license, called a marriage certificate. They're fetishizing a piece of paper.
A marriage certificate won't make your spouse love you, care about you, or respect you or stay with you. It has no magic qualities, contrary to the beliefs of the fundamentalists. Oh, and God won't strike you dead if you engage in sex without possessing one of those magic totemic pieces of paper.
And if you are a female non-virgin, boys will not "throw you away like a used Kleenex because you are damaged goods" as that right-wing nut Ann Landers used to write. She also said that in a movie we watched in high school.
That's incredibly shallow thinking. I believed that crap because my parents never told me anything about sex, nor did the schools, and there were no books around to explain what the male had to do with reproduction. As a female, looking at a cross-section of a limp penis tells you nothing about sex, and that is what it's designed to do--be completely uninformative about the facts of sex. They told us lies in their so-called sex ed movies.
RKP5637
(67,104 posts)ever have. Who the F wants clothes in the way for a good nights fun!
warrprayer
(4,734 posts)in the military. I read "Black Hawk Down" several times and nearly spit out my anti-masturbation corn flakes reading about paratroopers boasting of running one off while descending by parachute, or in combat.
<snip>
"The past decade of combat operations in Iraq and Afghanistan has given military physicians such as myself the important opportunity to gather unprecedented data on some of our most pressing medical issues. This data set has spurred advances in the care of trauma, hemorrhagic shock, traumatic brain injury, and other occupational injuries common to young men and women in combat. Our job, and indeed our temperament, is to make observations, gather data, test hypotheses, and solve problems all day longall while in the middle of a combat zone.
Which brings me to one of the most common medical inquiries I receive in combat: "How the hell am I supposed to jack off up in this motherfucker?"
I present to you a series of real-life scenarios that Marines and sailors in my infantry battalion have faced over the past several years, as well as the field-tested solutions they devised to handle each one. None of what follows is hypothetical. All have been successfully completed, and I have even witnessed a few of the outcomes. Following each solution, I present a rub (or friction point) that I hope you might avoid as you negotiate your own obstacles."
<snip.
http://deadspin.com/5984350/the-coming-war-a-military-doctors-field-guide-to-masturbating-in-afghanistan
MADem
(135,425 posts)Those "Hammer pants" will certainly make it difficult to touch...errrrr....that!
easychoice
(1,043 posts)The poutrage is endless apparently.
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)muntrv
(14,505 posts)1000words
(7,051 posts)Don't be too hard on them.
pacalo
(24,721 posts)I'm reminded of...
(you know who's).
Packerowner740
(676 posts)shanti
(21,675 posts)That was the funniest thing I've read in a long time!
3catwoman3
(23,971 posts)...given the matter considerable study. I wonder if he field tested all the inhibitory techniques personally to ascertain their effectiveness. Multiple trials would have been necessary to establish the validity of his recommendations.
BTW, the talents for puns on DU is truly impressive.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)and issue little angry orders at the tides, don't they?
Omnith
(171 posts)thanks for the thread
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)That makes me want to go find the nearest Mormon Church and start wacking off.
Behind the Aegis
(53,949 posts)Repeatedly!
TM99
(8,352 posts)Extreme orgasm anxiety forms the basis of the general fear of life.
Wilhelm Reich