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LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 04:12 PM Feb 2014

Not the Onion: Mormons Declare War on Masturbation

Good God, they're serious: Mormons Declar War on Masturbation.

Think that's the living end of self-parody? Read on:

A PSA starring Brigham Young University president Kim B. Clark compares ignoring a masturbating roommate to leaving your war buddy behind on the battlefield:

"The enemy whispers 'Don’t get involved, it’s not your problem.' Brothers and sisters, don't leave the wounded on the battlefield."


The crazy is strong in this one!!!!!

Here's the actual Public (snark!) service announcement:


The "Guide to Self-Control" excerpt from the Mormon pamphlet sounds like pages from the Boy Scout manual of the 1950s.

4) When in bed, if that is where you have your problem for the most part, dress yourself for the night so securely that you cannot easily touch your vital parts, and so that it would be difficult and time consuming for you to remove those clothes. By the time you started to remove protective clothing you would have sufficiently controlled your thinking that the temptation would leave you.


Sounds like great recruitment material for the Mormons, doesn't it? All ya gotta do is:
  • Give up all sex outside marriage
  • Give up masturbation

Of course, the Devil can still send you 'wet dreams' and nocturnal emissions.
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Not the Onion: Mormons Declare War on Masturbation (Original Post) LongTomH Feb 2014 OP
lol, boxing gloves as sleep wear. loli phabay Feb 2014 #1
.... Cha Feb 2014 #123
Bunch of jerks. riqster Feb 2014 #2
You're very clever with words riqster Auntie Bush Feb 2014 #9
A real master debator. nt awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #76
Those Mormons shouldn't jerk people around like this. LeftofObama Feb 2014 #26
Agreed. They speak of soldiers, but neglect the seamen. riqster Feb 2014 #29
This whole sordid tale makes me want to cry so I reached beside the bed for a Kleenex, LeftofObama Feb 2014 #33
... Sweet Freedom Feb 2014 #58
That's a bit dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #3
Out of hand, too, perhaps. riqster Feb 2014 #8
Definety... daleanime Feb 2014 #34
Like being waked up by obscene phone callers. The ones who called late at night with: freshwest Feb 2014 #71
Best. Reply. Ever. riqster Feb 2014 #74
A friend had a very persistent one. Where we worked, we had to have our home numbers listed. freshwest Feb 2014 #87
Brilliant. riqster Feb 2014 #88
Count me in as part of the Resistance to this! joeybee12 Feb 2014 #4
active resistance perhaps loli phabay Feb 2014 #6
I won't sleep until the enemy has been 'beaten"... joeybee12 Feb 2014 #7
I see you have the situation in hand, loli phabay Feb 2014 #15
Let's form a group: "Folks Against Prudes." 1000words Feb 2014 #31
You wins the Internets!!!! riqster Feb 2014 #36
if you're crazy enough to fall for their other comedy gold, you might fall for this one NightWatcher Feb 2014 #5
In the argot of the addict, they'll beat it, cold jerky . . . Journeyman Feb 2014 #10
In my experience, ignoring a masturbating roommate is the polite thing to do Tom Ripley Feb 2014 #11
Unless they want you to join in too! wocaonimabi Feb 2014 #20
There is that. Tom Ripley Feb 2014 #23
Well, the PSA DOES say to "Reach out in the spirit of love" pinboy3niner Feb 2014 #32
Should have been "stop in the name of love". riqster Feb 2014 #37
Then again, you may be milking this joke for too much. nt pinboy3niner Feb 2014 #47
Well, spurts fans, that's how the balls bounce, I guess. riqster Feb 2014 #49
I saw your name and can't resist given the subject.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2014 #73
Perfect! Tom Ripley Feb 2014 #85
That is creepy davidpdx Feb 2014 #125
The polite thing to do is do it in private. Auntie Bush Feb 2014 #79
Huh. Let us know how that works out for y'all. nt Zorra Feb 2014 #12
Usual asnwer to this is dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #13
lol, yup its my Willie. loli phabay Feb 2014 #16
So their view is I see myself as a sex object? The Straight Story Feb 2014 #14
depends if you close your eyes or have the lights on loli phabay Feb 2014 #18
"Put a helmet on that soldier!!!" Iggo Feb 2014 #17
LMAO Solly Mack Feb 2014 #19
The sad irony is: This is the type of shit my generation was fed growing up. LongTomH Feb 2014 #21
Yeah, good luck with that. nt Deep13 Feb 2014 #22
But these views must be respected... Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #24
respected, then ignored and laughed at. loli phabay Feb 2014 #43
But they speak for the invisible man in the sky that needs money... Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #50
ive always thought that you can respect peoples views no matter how nuts but disagree with it loli phabay Feb 2014 #54
If only they would keep their sick fantasies to themselves. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #55
yup as long as people dont force others i got no problem with their nuttiness. loli phabay Feb 2014 #57
I have no respect for those views. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #89
Oh, I suppose a 'libertarian' like you would just LET people masturbate. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #116
Cum on ... we can beat this thing! 1000words Feb 2014 #25
Worst. Roommates. Ever. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #27
Except that it never once mentions masturbation. Common Sense Party Feb 2014 #28
Sigh!!! Read the article again: LongTomH Feb 2014 #42
That's from the Boy Scout manual, from what I read. Common Sense Party Feb 2014 #44
Read again! It's from the Mormon pamphlet! LongTomH Feb 2014 #51
Gotcha, I missed that. I saw the video posted elsewhere the other week, Common Sense Party Feb 2014 #62
Except it was made in reaction to a BYU-I speech this year and from the March Ensign of THIS year FreeState Feb 2014 #75
"normal toilet processes"... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #80
Sounds like things are getting out of hand with the Mormons. Rex Feb 2014 #30
Well, then! It's all hands on... KansDem Feb 2014 #35
Don't forget: Earth_First Feb 2014 #38
So I'm going to hell temporary311 Feb 2014 #40
lol, and he seems to approve, so soldier on. loli phabay Feb 2014 #45
While reading suggestion #5... skypilot Feb 2014 #39
Is this part of a recruitment campaign? Seems counter-intuitive. Shrike47 Feb 2014 #41
Someone have a really interesting missionary roommate? Coyotl Feb 2014 #46
And black rubbers for their shoes! riqster Feb 2014 #52
If this post isn't a satire, it should be. nt ladjf Feb 2014 #48
like this? central scrutinizer Feb 2014 #103
Well, guess I'll have to turn myself in Blue Owl Feb 2014 #53
Marry young, have lots of kids. hunter Feb 2014 #56
Gotta hand it to them, they don't go for the soft targets! n/t TygrBright Feb 2014 #59
*** Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #105
No wonder Mormons are encouraged to have, like, 15 kids, Aristus Feb 2014 #60
No one wants to join? Think again.. demwing Feb 2014 #86
due to high birth rate. defacto7 Feb 2014 #96
Got any data on that? demwing Feb 2014 #98
I admit I spoke loosely... defacto7 Feb 2014 #118
Nope.. but here are some facts though.... defacto7 Feb 2014 #121
My point is not whether the Mormons ranked #1 demwing Feb 2014 #129
In this comment, you did refute the commenter's claim defacto7 Feb 2014 #131
This anti masturbation thing is getting out of hand. bravenak Feb 2014 #61
Are They Trying to Put "The Onion" Out Of Business? colsohlibgal Feb 2014 #63
They misunderstand Token Republican Feb 2014 #64
The Mormon magic underwear doesn't set up a protective force field? tanyev Feb 2014 #65
I can only imagine the "research" TBF Feb 2014 #67
Burn my draft card!!!!!!! Cofitachequi Feb 2014 #66
I'm alright with this. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #68
But what about those that squeeze the banana?? madinmaryland Feb 2014 #112
They're stealing Christine O'Donnell's signature issue! Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #69
What is the 'great war'? Kingofalldems Feb 2014 #70
Satan versus Jesus for Dominion of Planet Earth as the First Step to a Galactic Empire? freshwest Feb 2014 #72
I guess there are some things that just Jackpine Radical Feb 2014 #77
Tugging Private Ryan... Blue Idaho Feb 2014 #78
Ryan's Privates. WinkyDink Feb 2014 #100
OMG - that is masterful Blue Idaho Feb 2014 #113
:-) WinkyDink Feb 2014 #128
"The Lord segregated the Negro and who is man to change that segregation?" jsr Feb 2014 #81
I sure hope the Santorum gang does not catch on to this , sex only for reasons of procreation and Thinkingabout Feb 2014 #82
These morons are comparing natural human sexuality with nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #83
OK, that's it. progressoid Feb 2014 #84
So has the Hall Of Fame. pintobean Feb 2014 #90
They need to stop, they probably masturbate themselves into a coma SummerSnow Feb 2014 #91
If you are going to interrupt me ... JoePhilly Feb 2014 #92
Next Mormon you come accross ask if they are the master of their own domain wocaonimabi Feb 2014 #93
They're nuts. defacto7 Feb 2014 #94
Found this on Pinterest the other day spinbaby Feb 2014 #95
That would do it! Enthusiast Feb 2014 #97
The Christian fear and obsession with sex has repeatedly resulted in barbarisms like this..... LongTomH Feb 2014 #130
Kim B. Clark is clearly A PERV. Because to think like this? Yep. WinkyDink Feb 2014 #99
There's some pretty serious religious sickness going on in this country. n/t RKP5637 Feb 2014 #101
Get married because you're so horny you can't stand it. Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2014 #102
OMG I'm a sinner i tell you, I'm going to hell, I'm a sinner! I wear nothing at night, never RKP5637 Feb 2014 #104
Jacking is a point of pride warrprayer Feb 2014 #106
Can't wait to hear the tabernacle choir sing the manifesto tune for this movement.... MADem Feb 2014 #107
1984 is calling these morons easychoice Feb 2014 #108
Love Cindi Lauper. She's crazy in a good way!! Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2014 #122
What kind of jackoffs would write this? muntrv Feb 2014 #109
We all pull a boner, now and again. 1000words Feb 2014 #110
OMG. pacalo Feb 2014 #111
I guess I'm in big trouble in the eyes of the Mormons. Packerowner740 Feb 2014 #114
Ahahahahahaha! shanti Feb 2014 #115
Mr. Clark certainly has... 3catwoman3 Feb 2014 #117
Some people sure love to stand on the beach Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #119
I don't see a problem here Omnith Feb 2014 #120
Why don't they just hand out straight jackets for bed time? davidpdx Feb 2014 #124
I single-handedly struggle with my addiction to masturbation! Behind the Aegis Feb 2014 #126
"The pleasure of living and the pleasure of the orgasm are identical. TM99 Feb 2014 #127

riqster

(13,986 posts)
2. Bunch of jerks.
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 04:16 PM
Feb 2014

One of the worse ideas I ever came across. Not a stroke of genius.
What are they trying to pull?



Pinboy3niner, we need more puns...

LeftofObama

(4,243 posts)
26. Those Mormons shouldn't jerk people around like this.
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 04:33 PM
Feb 2014

I hope no one gets rubbed out over it. That could get messy!

LeftofObama

(4,243 posts)
33. This whole sordid tale makes me want to cry so I reached beside the bed for a Kleenex,
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 04:41 PM
Feb 2014

but the box was empty.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
71. Like being waked up by obscene phone callers. The ones who called late at night with:
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 06:06 PM
Feb 2014
*sound of heavy breathing*

'I've got something in my hand for you...'

My response:

'Honey, if it fits in your hand, I'm not interested.'

*sound of dial-tone*

They didn't call back.


freshwest

(53,661 posts)
87. A friend had a very persistent one. Where we worked, we had to have our home numbers listed.
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 07:16 PM
Feb 2014

So we could be called in for emergencies, etc. And it had to be listed like our paychecks, so the gender was there. Soon, because of the harrassment of female employees, we were allowed to have our paychecks with just our initials.

I had one that followed me from one phone number to another, because I had to let the phone company give the new numbers for emergencies. He had been calling me for a while after midnight, and I'd answer when he told me what he wanted to do with me, with 'Uh, what?'

He'd repeat his proposition, to which I'd generally still not be fully awake, 'Wha?'

He'd keep on going, and when I finally got his plan repeated, I'd say, 'Uh, you got the wrong number, I don't DO any of that.'

My friend's approach was a bit different. She'd engage them in conversation, the guy who wanted to masturbate to her voice, and explain, yes, she knew what was really wrong, and she was sooo sorry.

He fell for that, and asked her what did she think was wrong?

She would go into a detailed description of erectile dysfunction and how she really, really did sympathize with him, it must be hurting his self-esteem, and all of that.

He'd hang up in a huff, then call back the next night with the same thing, and she kept on being very kind while he exclaimed that his uh, thing, was in perfect working order!

She finally began to give him the names of doctors he could go to and get his erectile dysfuntion cured, as she knew it really did make him feel bad, so bad that he had to call up unknown women in the middle of the night for sympathy. And that she was very, very sad.

He finally gave up, as nothing but a personal inspection of him would have proven that he was not suffering from a condition that deprived him of girlfriends, sex and all of that.

She was quite a character...

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
5. if you're crazy enough to fall for their other comedy gold, you might fall for this one
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 04:18 PM
Feb 2014

Keep your hands out of your Magic Underwear or you don't get a magic planet when you die

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
21. The sad irony is: This is the type of shit my generation was fed growing up.
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 04:28 PM
Feb 2014

Like I said, the Boy Scout manual warned against masturbation, giving their own tips for avoiding temptation.

One advice was, if you're practicing masturbation, talk to your pastor.......Not a good idea on any level!

Edited to add: Is it any wonder that the US is way down on the list of sexually satisfied countries?

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
50. But they speak for the invisible man in the sky that needs money...
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 05:03 PM
Feb 2014

and anything that relates to the invisible man in the sky must be respected, because...

something or other.

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
54. ive always thought that you can respect peoples views no matter how nuts but disagree with it
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 05:06 PM
Feb 2014

when they start to tell me what my sexual appetites should be and use their religion to try to force me then thats when i have issues, until then its live and let live. though i do laugh at the nuttiness of it.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
55. If only they would keep their sick fantasies to themselves.
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 05:11 PM
Feb 2014

Got to hand it to the Mormons though, their brand of crazy is pure comedy gold.

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
57. yup as long as people dont force others i got no problem with their nuttiness.
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 05:13 PM
Feb 2014

problem is everyone believes their beliefs are right, me included, and thats where the problems lie.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
116. Oh, I suppose a 'libertarian' like you would just LET people masturbate.
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 11:58 PM
Feb 2014

Sigh, sigh, eyeroll, eyeroll, sigh.

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
42. Sigh!!! Read the article again:
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 04:57 PM
Feb 2014
It then launches into a long list of "Steps in Overcoming Masturbation."


Or did you read the part about the "Guide to Self-Control?"

1) Never touch the intimate parts of your body except during normal toilet processes. Avoid being alone as much as possible. Find good company and stay in this good company.

or.....

3) When you bathe, do not admire yourself in a mirror. Never stay in the bath more than five or six minutes -- just long enough to bathe and dry and dress and then get out of the bathroom into a room where you will have some member of your family present.

What did you think they were talking about?

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
51. Read again! It's from the Mormon pamphlet!
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 05:04 PM
Feb 2014
The pamphlet begins by assuring chronic masturbators that there is hope:

Be assured that you can be cured of your difficulty. Many have been, both male and female, and you can be also if you determine that it must be so.

Common Sense Party

(14,139 posts)
62. Gotcha, I missed that. I saw the video posted elsewhere the other week,
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 05:37 PM
Feb 2014

and it was being spun as an anti-masturbation video. Yet it does not mention that word.

The pamphlet may or may not be the work of a Mormon leader, but if so, it's at least 30 years old, so has very little to do with that weird war video.

FreeState

(10,570 posts)
75. Except it was made in reaction to a BYU-I speech this year and from the March Ensign of THIS year
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 06:23 PM
Feb 2014
http://media.ldscdn.org/pdf/magazines/ensign-march-2014/2014-03-00-ensign-eng.pdf

Page 46-47

SELF-ABUSE
The Lord con­ demns self­abuse. Self­abuse is the act of stimulating the procreative power of one’s own body. President Boyd K. Packer, President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, said:
“Do not be guilty of tampering or playing with this sacred power of creation. . . .
“. . . It is not pleasing to the Lord, nor is it pleasing to you. It does not make you feel worthy or clean.”
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
30. Sounds like things are getting out of hand with the Mormons.
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 04:38 PM
Feb 2014

Idle hands play with the Devil's dingaling or something stupid like that.

skypilot

(8,853 posts)
39. While reading suggestion #5...
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 04:52 PM
Feb 2014

...about going to the kitchen to get something to eat if the urge to fap is getting too strong, I couldn't help but think about the movie "American Pie".

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
46. Someone have a really interesting missionary roommate?
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 05:00 PM
Feb 2014
Two men with narrow ties alone together in a foriegn land

central scrutinizer

(11,648 posts)
103. like this?
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 08:16 PM
Feb 2014
http://www.amazon.com/Kleenex-Facial-Tissue-White-Pack/dp/B00B9OYLC4/ref=pd_sbs_hpc_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=1WRZ9JXJD9TNZHDCAHFP

By James O. Thach TOP 500 REVIEWER on December 8, 2013
Size Name: 85 Count
I want to start this off by thanking Kleenex for selling these in 36-packs. I've put it on subscription, and if they want to start selling a 72-pack, sign me up. I have three reasons for needing this much Kleenex, and their names are Liam, Samuel and Hank.

This is how it goes in this house. First the Kleenex disappears. Then the toilet paper. Then they go for fabrics. And you don't want it to get there, unless you're ready to invest in a five gallon drum of Fabreeze.

This used to be a good Christian home. But it's not about moral judgment anymore. I'm way beyond that. I'm in survival mode. If I don't supply absorbent paper products, I'm going to find my dish towels hidden in the basement, stiff as aluminum. The other day, I almost cut my hand on a sock. I am sorry to speak so frankly, but with three teenage boys, a woman has got to be practical.

The funny part is, they think they're being sneaky, with their 45 minute showers and sudden need for "privacy", as if I'm going to walk in on them journaling. They slink around the house like unfixed cats, while I try to announce my location at all times. No one needs to ask me to knock anymore. I knock on the walls. I practically wear a cow bell. I'm not looking to catch anyone by surprise, believe me. I'm just trying to get through this.

The other day my husband was watching me unload the groceries, and he asks me, all sweetness and light, "Honey, what're you doing with all that Kleenex?"

I about knocked him off his chair.

hunter

(38,310 posts)
56. Marry young, have lots of kids.
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 05:11 PM
Feb 2014

Grow the religion!

That's how this works.

One amazing thing about those who practice these sorts of traditional (and repressive) religious sexual and marriage rituals (not just Mormons!) is how the first child is often born completely developed and of normal weight after just six months of pregnancy, not nine!

My siblings and I knew all about sex, birth control, etc., years before we cared much about it. None of us had kids as teenagers, or even before we were out on our own and in stable living situations. None of us were "forced" into marriage as a consequence of sexual longings or misadventures. Even as reckless teens with minds not fully adult we mostly knew what we were doing.

We had a Mormon neighbor when I was a teen, he didn't know anything. He either stole (or maybe my mom was worried about him and gave him...) a somewhat explicit book about human sexuality. It had pictures. His parents found the book a few weeks later and he was banned from our household.

Such banishments were nothing new in our house.

While my mom and her friends were still nursing their younger children, well into toddler hood, they didn't cover up much; they would nurse a hungry kid anywhere, anytime.

I remember one of my neighborhood playmates, we were about ten, STARING at my mom and my youngest brother. I'm certain he'd never seen or even imagined anything like that.

After that he became yet another kid who wasn't allowed to visit our home.

Aristus

(66,316 posts)
60. No wonder Mormons are encouraged to have, like, 15 kids,
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 05:29 PM
Feb 2014

This is a religion where you have to wear underwear even in the bathtub. And you can't drink coffee, let alone alcohol. And they have an attitude toward masturbation right out of the 1850's. Nobody wants to join this crazy-ass religion, so they have to breed new parishoners...

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
86. No one wants to join? Think again..
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 06:59 PM
Feb 2014

Last edited Tue Feb 25, 2014, 09:40 AM - Edit history (1)

The LDS Church is one of the fastest growing Churches in the US.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
96. due to high birth rate.
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 07:43 PM
Feb 2014

and the need to be part of the most socialist system in America.. just for LDS though. The absurdity of their hypocrisy is crowned by their incessant political disdain of socialism while socialism it what keeps the LDS from leaving the LDS. Birth to the grave, they are covered for education, housing, food and disaster relief for their prophesied 7 years of famine.. as long as they pay the bill and do the churches will.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
118. I admit I spoke loosely...
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 12:24 AM
Feb 2014

After reading my post again I wasn't very clear on the comment about birth rate increasing due to Mormon policies. That was a flippant remark about post #60 who made a comment about "15 kids" which is not far from the truth. It's not a requirement, just a sign of the blessings of Elohim (god) for allowing souls to leave another existence to live on this planet. Many children means you are blessed. I would call that advertising for very large families and for polygamy which was very recently made legal in Utah. Before that, many lied.

The second remark comes strait from one who lives and works in the center of Mormonism, me. If you want proof of much of anything concerning secret LDS activities you'll find little outside of the first hand experiences of those who live it and work with Utah Mormons as well as those who have taken the sometimes difficult leap away from the organization. I have written too profusely on the subject here on DU in the past and really don't intend on repeating those comments. There are a couple of pretty good books about Mormon history and beliefs written by former Mormons or historians. One that comes to mind is Under the Banner of Heaven written by Jon Krakauer. As you can probably tell I have little use for the Mormon religion or its corporate and legal power base. The Mormon church is the ultimate example of the detrimental effects of allowing the separation of church and state to be bridged. The hierarchy has never hesitated in its history to lie, manipulate or just simply transform their doctrine to get their desired results.

There are many very good people among the general population of the LDS and there are many who are not so good at all. But all in all, my experience and opinion is that they are either following a lie and know it, are part of the clandestine political and corporate machine that most Mormons try to ignore, they are brainwashed or they are thoroughly deluded.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
121. Nope.. but here are some facts though....
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 01:29 AM
Feb 2014

Actually, there is a site, a report, a study and plenty of propaganda that will tell you exactly what you want to hear. The US census says it does not track religious affiliation. Therefore, choose your own facts. Here are some examples:

This one says Mormonism is the fastest growing religion in half of the US, 26 states to be exact mostly in the sparsely populated west. There are several other news sites that say the same.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/02/mormonism-fastest-growing-religion_n_1469566.html

According to the Christian Broadcasting Network (ugh)
http://www.cbn.com/spirituallife/churchandministry/evangelism/mormons_are_fastest_growing_religion.aspx
This is the only site where Mormons won the race.

This one says Islam..
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100250598/lots-of-atheists-more-muslims-fewer-christians-and-jews-this-is-the-new-america/

so does this one
http://www.tellmeaboutislam.com/islam-is-the-fastest-growing-religion-in-the-usa.html

Another says Deism, Buddhism, and Sikhism but it's old data.

Another says Witchcraft
http://www.thesleuthjournal.com/fastest-growing-religion-america-witchcraft/#

and Pew reports says 1 in 5 Americans have no religious affiliation at all.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
129. My point is not whether the Mormons ranked #1
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 09:35 AM
Feb 2014

Or #2, or even #5. In fact, the LDS Church itself refuses to claim the number 1 spot:

http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/topic/church-growtg

"The Church makes no statistical comparisons with other churches makes no claim to be the fastest-growing Christian denomination despite frequent news media comments to that effect.

"Such comparisons rarely take account of a multiplicity of complex factors, including activity rates and death rates, the methodology used in registering or counting members and what factors constitute membership"

Despite the disclaimer, the same LDS statement includes the following:

"According to the National Council of Churches, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the second-fastest-growing church in the United States."

Whatever the ranking, this study (along with the CBN report, the US News & World Report it cited, and the HuffPo piece you mentioned), all support my actual point - the LDS church is experiencing great growth, and the claim that no one wants to join this religion is incorrect.

However, to be fair, I've edited my previous post so as to more accurately reflect my thoughts.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
131. In this comment, you did refute the commenter's claim
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 03:39 PM
Feb 2014

that no one wants to join this religion. That was not true.

Thank you for editing your claim that "The LDS Church is the fastest growing Church in the US." which was erroneous, where "one of the fastest growing" is correct and I suppose that was the exercise here. It seems one could still accept the claim that the LDS church is the fastest growing in 26 states as of 2012 data.

Keep in mind, there are a multitude of claims in biased as well as less biased studies concerning the subjects of the condition, growth, size, wealth and recent changes in religion, religious sects and the non-religious. The gamut of data calculation is very wide which seems to imply that It's more subjective than objective.




 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
61. This anti masturbation thing is getting out of hand.
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 05:37 PM
Feb 2014

And that's not fair.

I just tell my kids to please, please, please, go in your room and close the door if you want to self sooth. It's disturbing when they do it in public, and this is probably the reason I always see little boys just playing with it at the pool. Not allowed at home.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
63. Are They Trying to Put "The Onion" Out Of Business?
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 05:37 PM
Feb 2014

Between this and crazy Ted Nugent spewing out his vile hate it's clear a good part of the right has gone insane. What's amazing is how people like Gingrich can give this stuff a pass.

Meanwhile what's "The Onion" to do?

Blue Idaho

(5,048 posts)
78. Tugging Private Ryan...
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 06:25 PM
Feb 2014

This is my dick. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
My dick is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life.
My dick, without me, is useless. Without my dick, I am useless. I must fire my dick true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will...
My dick and I know that what counts in this war is not the rounds we fire, the noise of our burst, nor the smoke we make. We know that it is the hits that count. We will hit...
My dick is human, even as I, because it is my life. Thus, I will learn it as a brother. I will learn its weaknesses, its strength, its parts, its accessories, its sights and its barrel. I will keep my dick clean and ready, even as I am clean and ready. We will become part of each other. We will...
Before God, I swear this creed. My dick and I are the defenders of my country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life.
So be it, until victory is America's and there is no enemy.

Can I have an amen Bishop Clark?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
82. I sure hope the Santorum gang does not catch on to this , sex only for reasons of procreation and
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 06:41 PM
Feb 2014

Unless you are donating, LEAVE IT ALONE!

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
83. These morons are comparing natural human sexuality with
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 06:48 PM
Feb 2014

the greatest generation and the good war!!!!! Now that is actually funny. I know why they did not chose more recent conflicts though.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
94. They're nuts.
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 07:35 PM
Feb 2014

But I think a strait jacket would be helpful in their quest for godly cleanliness. If that doesn't work then I suggest the rack or the iron maiden in that order. I'm sure that will quell their desires.

spinbaby

(15,088 posts)
95. Found this on Pinterest the other day
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 07:38 PM
Feb 2014



The Jugum Penis was intended to cure "spermatorrhoea", a Victorian-era name for nocturnal emissions. The device was fashioned out of a metal ring, which would fit at the base of the penis and was attached with a clip. Essentially, a bear trap for erections.

http://www.pinterest.com/pin/79094537177114201/

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
130. The Christian fear and obsession with sex has repeatedly resulted in barbarisms like this.....
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 02:01 PM
Feb 2014

.....and this isn't the worst!

And no, I'm neither anti-Christian nor atheist; but, Christians need to admit their religion has a dark side.

As Helen Ellerbe stated in: The Dark Side of Christian History:

Ignoring the dark side of Christian history perpetuates the idea that oppression and atrocity are the inevitable results of an inherently evil or savage human nature' and it 'allows the beliefs which have motivated cruelty to go unexamined.


I recommend the book heartily. Even if you disagree with much of what she says, it will give you some things to ponder.
 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
102. Get married because you're so horny you can't stand it.
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 08:12 PM
Feb 2014


Yeah, that's a real good formula for a happy marriage.

And have lots of children you can't afford nor give enough attention to.

Cults come in all sizes.

What do they do about Big Os during dreams? Those are involuntary. And happen in both genders.

Guess Jesus just can't issue you your sex drive with your state-issued screwing license, called a marriage certificate. They're fetishizing a piece of paper.

A marriage certificate won't make your spouse love you, care about you, or respect you or stay with you. It has no magic qualities, contrary to the beliefs of the fundamentalists. Oh, and God won't strike you dead if you engage in sex without possessing one of those magic totemic pieces of paper.

And if you are a female non-virgin, boys will not "throw you away like a used Kleenex because you are damaged goods" as that right-wing nut Ann Landers used to write. She also said that in a movie we watched in high school.

That's incredibly shallow thinking. I believed that crap because my parents never told me anything about sex, nor did the schools, and there were no books around to explain what the male had to do with reproduction. As a female, looking at a cross-section of a limp penis tells you nothing about sex, and that is what it's designed to do--be completely uninformative about the facts of sex. They told us lies in their so-called sex ed movies.










RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
104. OMG I'm a sinner i tell you, I'm going to hell, I'm a sinner! I wear nothing at night, never
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 08:16 PM
Feb 2014

ever have. Who the F wants clothes in the way for a good nights fun!

warrprayer

(4,734 posts)
106. Jacking is a point of pride
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 08:21 PM
Feb 2014

in the military. I read "Black Hawk Down" several times and nearly spit out my anti-masturbation corn flakes reading about paratroopers boasting of running one off while descending by parachute, or in combat.

<snip>

"The past decade of combat operations in Iraq and Afghanistan has given military physicians such as myself the important opportunity to gather unprecedented data on some of our most pressing medical issues. This data set has spurred advances in the care of trauma, hemorrhagic shock, traumatic brain injury, and other occupational injuries common to young men and women in combat. Our job, and indeed our temperament, is to make observations, gather data, test hypotheses, and solve problems all day long—all while in the middle of a combat zone.

Which brings me to one of the most common medical inquiries I receive in combat: "How the hell am I supposed to jack off up in this motherfucker?"

I present to you a series of real-life scenarios that Marines and sailors in my infantry battalion have faced over the past several years, as well as the field-tested solutions they devised to handle each one. None of what follows is hypothetical. All have been successfully completed, and I have even witnessed a few of the outcomes. Following each solution, I present a rub (or friction point) that I hope you might avoid as you negotiate your own obstacles."

<snip.

http://deadspin.com/5984350/the-coming-war-a-military-doctors-field-guide-to-masturbating-in-afghanistan

MADem

(135,425 posts)
107. Can't wait to hear the tabernacle choir sing the manifesto tune for this movement....
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 08:24 PM
Feb 2014


Those "Hammer pants" will certainly make it difficult to touch...errrrr....that!

3catwoman3

(23,971 posts)
117. Mr. Clark certainly has...
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 12:17 AM
Feb 2014

...given the matter considerable study. I wonder if he field tested all the inhibitory techniques personally to ascertain their effectiveness. Multiple trials would have been necessary to establish the validity of his recommendations.

BTW, the talents for puns on DU is truly impressive.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
124. Why don't they just hand out straight jackets for bed time?
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 03:30 AM
Feb 2014

That makes me want to go find the nearest Mormon Church and start wacking off.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
127. "The pleasure of living and the pleasure of the orgasm are identical.
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 04:09 AM
Feb 2014

Extreme orgasm anxiety forms the basis of the general fear of life.”

Wilhelm Reich

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