Welcome, Mr. President, to *12-dimensional* chess.

[MannyGoldstein]

I was just listening to a recording of Chris Matthews from a few days ago. He was talking (well, shouting) that President Obama has decided that flipping off his base and appeasing Republicans isn't a winning strategy. Apparently, that just makes everyone angry. So the President will end the appeasing and the flipping off, at least until the election, and do some good, Democratic stuff like his executive order raising the minimum wage for those paid by the federal government.

Excellent!

We've been hearing for five years that the President is playing a game of 11-dimensional chess which mere mortals don't understand. Meanwhile, the real unemployment rate is staggeringly high and barely budging and more school children are homeless than ever before. Oh, and the wealthy are doing better than ever, and the banks have never been bigger, etc.

So, Mr. President, welcome to the next dimension of chess play: the one that all manner of other people (who now have arrows in their asses) were suggesting for 5 years. Welcome to 12-dimensional chess, or what we simple people call "acting like a Democrat". You'll find it to be an improvement over the old strategy as, Lord knows, the 99% will.

And by the way Mr. President, it may be a little to late in the game, but there's yet another dimension you could achieve - the Liberal dimension. It's the most winning dimension of chess the world has ever known. If interested, check with Elizabeth Warren or one of the other masters who've achieved it, they'll be happy to mentor you.

[ProSense]

1. Why would

And by the way Mr. President, it may be a little to late in the game, but there's yet another dimension you could achieve - the Liberal dimension. It's the most winning dimension of chess the world has ever known. If interested, check with Elizabeth Warren or one of the other masters who've achieved it, they'll be happy to mentor you.

...progressives jump on a RW tool's bandwagon?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024554928#post84

Debunking RW fantasies about the death of Obamacare
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024555756

The Obamacare Hail Mary That Could Save The Senate For Democrats
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024555514

[MannyGoldstein]

2. I'm sure that has something to do with the OP

Hmmm...

[ProSense]

3. Yeah, it's OK when some progressives push RW distortions while

calling everyone else Third Way/DLCers and the President a RW Democrat.

It's cool for the superior ones to hype this asshat.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/09/30/1021638/-New-right-wing-attack-on-Elizabeth-Warren-All-taxes-are-rape

[woo me with science]

16. Ink cloud!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4549727



That one was small in comparison to some of the others, but just as inky.

[MannyGoldstein]

18. Now *that* was freakin' funny!

Thanks!

[bvar22]

66. Funny Indeed!

....and appropriate.

[ProSense]

28. Here:

Five years of Obama, and 2014 has been a busy year thus far
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024559777

It's like Kryptonite for Super Obama haters.

[madfloridian]

31. Did you say "Super Obama haters"?

Why yes you did.

Oh, come on. You know better.

[ProSense]

32. Yes, I said "It's like Kryptonite for Super Obama haters."

Don't you wag your finger at me!!!

[madfloridian]

38. ......

[Enthusiast]

43. +1 a whole bunch!

[sabrina 1]

94. Why would Obama haters vote for Obama? Isn't that a little weird?

Let me try to figure this out. If you vote for a candidate because he promises a lot of things you agree with, then he totally abandons those positions, 'offshore drilling' 'mandated insurance' etc, AFTER he gets your vote, then you feel betrayed, that equals HATE!

Wow, I never knew what HATE meant until NOW. Hey, thanks for the info although I'm still having trouble figuring out how voting for someone = hate.

But then, I'm just one of those morons on the 'left' who expect people to tell the TRUTH. What a ridiculous concept, TRUTH.

HATE = Expecting those we support to tell us the TRUTH!

[NuclearDem]

44. Alright, I lol'd

[progressoid]

72. Apparently the President isn't the only one playing multi dimentional chess.

[sabrina 1]

93. Are you in the thread you intended to be in?

[blkmusclmachine]

4. "Bipartisanship" means ... never having to go Left.

I doubt BHO has "learned" any lessons...

[Doctor_J]

5. Unfortunately I don't think anyone believes him any more

He still wants to "fast-track" TPP for example. So while it is fun to hear him talk like a Dem, it's difficult to think he'll actually follow through.

[MannyGoldstein]

7. You're harshing my buzz.

Gee, thanks.

[PSPS]

6. This assumes his values are the same as yours. Sadly, they aren't.

All of his rhetoric is merely theater. Much of what's wrong in policy could be righted immediately with a stroke of his pen (i.e., drones, NSA, Guantanamo, Manning, etc.) The fact that it isn't being righted is the one true indicator of Obama's values.

[fascisthunter]

8. Very True!

[woo me with science]

12. To be fair...

Manny does not miss much...

So the President will end the appeasing and the flipping off, at least until the election....

[MannyGoldstein]

17. Thanks, but to be fair, that was Tweety's observation

But Manny agrees, FWIW.

[ProSense]

29. "Manny does not miss much... "

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024522796#post2

[woo me with science]

33. Yes, Obama's TPP will slash wages for Americans virtually across the board.

An excellent example of the point made in this OP. But hardly funny at all.


.

[ProSense]

35. You forgot to attribute that to Manny.

[msanthrope]

54. Here's Manny, blaming President Obama for legislation passed 16 years ago.....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4550863

It starts at post 1.

[bvar22]

67. Thank You...

though I don't know WHY you would link to a thread in which you were thoroughly embarrassed.

Using your rhetoric,
WHY should we be all upset about something that was passed 20 years ago?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Free_Trade_Agreement

...maybe it is because THIS guy promised to do something about all that shit:

Hope & Change!!!
Yeah.... got it.... <sigh>

[msanthrope]

95. Wrong law, wrong year. CETA is not NAFTA. Look, I get that you might want to defend Manny,

but citing a law that passed four years before CETA really isn't the way to do it.

In fact it blows your argument out of the water: you just provided proof that four years after NAFTA the United States Congress wasn't constrained by NAFTA but passed a highly protectionist copyright extension law that was upheld by SCOTUS.

The next time you challenge me about a law, it would be helpful if you read and discussed the same law I'm talking about.

[Number23]

90. I've seldom seen one person wipe clean an entire thread before

Well done, girl.

[msanthrope]

96. Aw...thank you.....This thread got a broom, too.....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4572863

[Number23]

103. Yeah, but look at what you're dealing with there. Hardly a challenge for anyone, especially you

[msanthrope]

105. Thank you. You always give me the best compliments! nt

[Pretzel_Warrior]

9. hahahha. you tell 'em, MANNY! you know's best

[KittyWampus]

10. "I was listening to a recording of Chris Matthews". Sorry, anything you write after that is tainted

Commentary based on what Tweety says is just silly.

[fascisthunter]

14. don't be sorry

be happy!

[woo me with science]

24. Not to mention he didn't even include a map!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023164458

[bullwinkle428]

36. As God is my witness - I would never have believed the absurdity of

those map references until I clicked on that link to the original thread!

[dreamnightwind]

42. Wow

I missed that before, that was sad, real sad. Some people will do anything defending the indefensible.

[bvar22]

73. That was one of the funniest, and most embarrassing threads EVER posted to DU.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023164458

It was enough to induce loss of bladder control.
If ever there was thread to Admit Defeat, and Just Walk Awat with your head down, that was it.
But NO!!!
The hilarity INCREASED as those involved attempted Damage Control by doubling down on the absurd OP. The more they struggled, the deeper the hole got.

That thread is a perfect example of:
[font size=3] What NOT to do when caught with your pants down on DU[/font]

[cali]

79. lol. DUzy.

[KittyWampus]

84. Should I stalk and harass you with your own gaffes? That would be just as funny, wouldn't it?

You and a small number of DU'ers obsess over an erroneous map but ignore the FACTS in same article detailing what the pilot stated.

[bvar22]

87. What "facts" do you claim were in the OP?

All of that "stuff" you are claiming were facts was immediately debunked.
The bogus Map was just the Cherry-on-Top that encapsulated the entire bogus OP.

Posting a bad graphic can happen to anyone,
but, as I pointed out in the above post,
the memorable hilarity in that classic thread wasn't really the map
(though even you must admit that was funny),
it was the Doubling Down, Tap Dancing, and Shadow Puppeting in the rest of the thread trying to make FALSE appear to be true.

It was a huge, classic fail,
but NOT just because of a bad map.

[msanthrope]

106. Psst--upthread, bvar22 tried taking me to task. Fail. nt

[Capt. Obvious]

88. That was a great read

Thanks for posting it.

[KittyWampus]

85. You have just outed yourself as the bully you are. Total nonsequitor. Maybe I should harass

you with some gaffe of yours.

You think you are amusing but just expose yourself.

Pitiful.

It's a tiny, tiny number of DU'ers who harass me with a map.

And if I retaliate appropriately with another map especially for you, MY post would be hidden.

Again, you expose yourself as the stalking bully you are.

Again, when I try to fight fire with fire, -I- am the one who would get a post hidden.

[woo me with science]

89. Wow, that was quite a huff for the benefit of people who don't read here often

and aren't familiar with your behavior on this site.

Casting yourself as a victim would perhaps have been more effective if my post had not been in response to your attempt to smear the credibility of another DUer...as usual, a liberal DUer.

Ditto for your attempt to portray yourself as the poor, abused author of a "gaffe." One reading of the thread shows that not only did you *never* acknowledge your absurd story about the fuel gauge as having been demonstrably wrong, but you and other predictably pro-corporate posters doubled down on your disinformation and mocked and ridiculed DUers who tried to correct your story. You did not make a "gaffe." You tried to rewrite and ultimately deny the outrageous hijacking of the flight of a head of state by corporate powers in order to pursue whistleblower, Edward Snowden...And you continued to try to spread this disinformation even after one of the countries involved *apologized* for its role in the forced landing.

In fact, smear and nastiness and trying to discredit any facts or posters inconvenient to the narrative of the corporate state seem, sadly, to be the goal of much of your posting here. You are a prolific and enthusiastic repeater of smears of Edward Snowden, smears of Glenn Greenwald, smears of Julian Assange...

And your civility toward liberal DUers? As I noted before in response to your jawdroppingly hypocritical attempts to lecture other Duers about civility, here is KittyWampus calling DUers:

"reactionary screamers"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3022193
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3003676
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023021853

and prone to "ratfucking"*

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2981596
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2981609
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2981647
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2981640

It took me all of a minute on google to find that vitriol from you, and I could have filled pages with what I found there. It is all familiar, predictable, and very telling.

________________________________________________________________________
* I will anticipate here (since I don't intend to carry this silly argument any further) your forthcoming protest that "Ratfucking is a POLITICAL term." For the benefit of anyone reading here, I can predict that you will say that only because you have been called out on this behavior toward other DUers so many times before, and that is what you always do. But as you have been told many times but chronically pretend you have not heard, your use of the term is incorrect for its political meaning. You use it for effect.

[Bobbie Jo]

97. Of course you're right,

but this crew of thugs have been "out" for some time now.

Consider the source.

Besides, your version of "the map" was awesome. Thin-skinned, school yard bullies don't like pushback, so of course they had to tell the teacher that you were being a meanie. Classic.

[ProSense]

11. Here,

"Democratic stuff like his executive order raising the minimum wage for those paid by the federal government."

...you'll enjoy this:

Five years of Obama, and 2014 has been a busy year thus far
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024559777

[woo me with science]

13. Wouldn't it be nice...

Wouldn't it.

K&R

[quinnox]

15. Manny, I'm disappointed you ever listen to Chris Matthews

You have just gone down a notch for me, I am now going from being a hopeless fan boy to me being an enthusiastic fan boy.

[treestar]

19. He can play it pretty well

that's why he wins. That's how he became the first black President. He knows how to balance all the considerations and get along with people. That's why he's President. Elizabeth Warren will never be President. FDR would never have been President had he not been part of the elite of that day.

[bvar22]

74. Obama WINS?

"Obama Admin’s TPP Trade Officials Received Hefty Bonuses From Big Banks"
http://billmoyers.com/2014/02/20/obama-admin%E2%80%99s-tpp-trade-officials-received-hefty-bonuses-from-big-banks/

Study: "Trade" Deal Would Mean a Pay Cut for 90% of U.S. Workers
http://citizen.typepad.com/eyesontrade/2013/09/the-verdict-is-in-the-trans-pacific-partnership-tpp-a-sweeping-free-trade-deal-under-negotiation-with-11-pacific-rim-coun.html

95 percent of the economy’s gains have gone to the top 1 percent
http://billmoyers.com/2014/01/10/why-conservatives-old-divide-and-conquer-strategy-%E2%80%94-setting-working-class-against-the-poor-%E2%80%94-is-backfiring/

The Totally Unfair And Bitterly Uneven 'Recovery,' In 12 Charts – HuffPo
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023662029

Billionaire wealth doubles since financial crisis
http://www.upi.com/blog/2013/11/12/Billionaire-wealth-doubles-since-financial-crisis/5011384268135/?spt=hts&or=12

The Top .01 Percent Reach New Heights
http://www.demos.org/blog/9/13/13/top-01-percent-reach-new-heights

Rates of unemployment for families earning less than $20,000 - have topped 21 percent
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_JOBS_GAP_RICH_AND_POOR?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-09-16-08-11-23

Obama Appoints Bain Capital Consultant Jeff Ziets to Top Post
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023662209

Obama appoints industry insider to head the FCC
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024521140

Obama selects former Monsanto lobbyist to be his TPP chief agriculture negotiator
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023662210

Larry Summers Gets 'Full-Throated Defense' From Obama In Capitol Hill Meeting
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014553343#post1

Wall Street will get away with massive wave of criminality of 2008 - Statute of Limitations
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022516719

Income gap widest ever: 95 Percent of Recovery Income Gains Have Gone to the Top 1 Percent
http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2013/09/10/one_percent_recovery_95_percent_of_gains_have_gone_to_the_top_one_percent.html

Older Workers:.Set Back by Recession, and Shut Out of Rebound
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/27/booming/for-laid-off-older-workers-age-bias-is-pervasive.html?smid=tw-share&_r=3&

Obama "WINS"?
I can see who "WON" and WON BIG, and I guess that includes President Obama and his friends on Wall Street.
The American Working Class has been the Big Loser,
and that includes me,
so I'm not marching in the Victory Parade.

[Jackpine Radical]

80. I'm marching in Obama's victory parade

just like he's been marching on the union picket lines.


http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/02/flashback-from-candidate-obama-ill-walk-the-picket-line-with-you/

During a 2007 campaign speech in Spartanburg, South Carolina, then-Senator Obama told supporters he would fight for collective bargaining rights if he was elected president.

“And understand this: If American workers are being denied their right to organize and collectively bargain when I’m in the White House, I’ll put on a put on a comfortable pair of shoes myself. I’ll walk on that picket line with you as president of the United States.”

We so enjoyed seeing him demonstrating with us in Madison 3 years ago, you know…

[treestar]

81. He won the election

sorry if that disappoints you.

[kenny blankenship]

20. It's an election year, Manfred!

Can't screw the people unless you first dupe the people. Things will be back to normal very soon.

[madfloridian]

30. .....

Hi Kenny B
Haven't seen you around in a while. Love your comment.

[kenny blankenship]

39. Hey thanks!

And hello again

[tea and oranges]

22. Progressive Country - Rightward Leadership

Yes, this habit national politicians have of running left (a thousand points of light, compassionate conservatism, having a D after your name) & then after getting elected taking a hard turn to the right, is getting irksome.

But we get pretty speeches that don't make us cringe w/ BHO, that's something, isn't it?

[zeemike]

23. It don't take long for them to jump in your shit does it.

And I am sure there is more to come, with blue links to posts they have made about how many great things he has done.

But I wish he would that pen to end the torture at Gitmo and the drone strikes that have killed thousands of Innocent civilians and even American citizens...that would be something I could cheer about...but I am just one of those emoprogs I guess...I am hopeless and cannot be convinced that raising the minimum wage for government employees who mostly make more than it anyway, is superior to ending murder and torture.

But that is just me.

[840high]

26. Rest assured - it's

not just you.

[L0oniX]

25. The actual dimension is the 5th .......and it's in the Twilight Zone.

[MannyGoldstein]

27. So many dimensions...

[jsr]

57. In another dimension, the president is fighting very hard for us

I wish you could see it like the professionals.

[L0oniX]

63. Agree ...I'll leave to the sensible professional blue link spammers...

to see ...what I can't.

[Coyotl]

34. My advice, keep it simple.

There are 3 dimensions and time. Work with what you have and know. See the simplest patterns. Fix the obvious problems. Do what's right. Keep promises.

[tabasco]

37. Smells like old socks in the laundry bin

Honestly, your shtick is SO stale.

[woo me with science]

41. Actually, I believe that is the stench of Third Way/Republican policies. nt

[pkdu]

40. Roll on Labor Day ! Nt

[SidDithers]

45. Oh, it's this thread again...

pretty much the same as every other thread you post.



Sid

[villager]

78. Oh, it's this comment again...

pretty much the same as every other comment you post.



Villager

[ananda]

46. I'm more fond of one-dimensional checkers.

Just go for the entitlement kings and jump over all the GOP assholes.

[JoePhilly]

47. The President isn't the evil SOB that you've been claiming he is ...

... and its tearing you up.

Obama was supposed to prove how evil he was by cutting Social Security. That's what we were told for almost his entire Presidency.

Some screamed louder than others. You are correct that some are angry. But you are wrong about who that has been.

Its the perpetually disgruntled who have screamed endlessly about potential outrages that never materialized.

Their outrage remains, but their disgruntled screams now sound rather hoarse and garbled.

Kind of like this OP.

[MannyGoldstein]

48. I never claimed that the President would cut Social Security

He can't cut it himself. He needs Congress to do it. Look it up, pretty basic stuff.

What I did predict is that he'd call for cuts, which he did. This prediction was easy: leading up to his call for cuts, the President started justifying cuts, set up all kinds of cover for himself (e.g., his Catfood Commission), and repeatedly lied about Social Security to make it seem like its current incarnation is not what was originally intended.

In our land of plenty, knowingly calling for cuts that will cause our most vunlerable to go hungry and cold is monsterous.

And more disastrous free trade agreements... Sweeping financial deregulation... Unlimited banker bailouts... Enormous increases in inequality and homelessness.... Keeping more than 2/3rds of the Bush tax cuts... Bragging that his austerity has been the greatest since Hoover...

Maybe that all amounts to a wonderful tenure in your eyes, but it doesn't in the eyes of most Americans.

[deutsey]

49. +1

[JoePhilly]

50. Which explains how he was re-elected ... Right?

How could one expect the President to totally fix, in 5 years, an economy that took more than 30 years to break.

You'd have to think he was some kind of Messiah.

Here's the problem you've got Manny. President Obama has about 3 years remaining. Things will continue to get better. Even as the GOP works endlessly to obstruct everything.

The opportunities for outrage will continue to diminish.

DADT was never going to end.
We were never going to leave Iraq, or Afghanistan.
We were going to invade Libya, Egypt, and Syria. Iran too.
The Bush tax cuts for the top 2% were going to be made permanent.
Social Security and Medicare were going to be GUTTED/SLASHED/KILLED.

Others will fall as well.

You only have to put up with him for another 1059 days 14 hours and 9 minutes (at the time of this post). And then they'll swear in Elizabeth Warren, I guess.

[MannyGoldstein]

51. Aaaaaaaggggh!!!!!

Sorry, I was terrified for a moment.

The sound made by those goalposts as they wizzed past my head at such speed... I need some calm for a while, my nerves are shattered.

[JoePhilly]

52. Says the guy who takes credit for anything positive the President does.

[dionysus]

62. let manny flail his bitter little fists, it's quite entertaining if you think about it...

[MannyGoldstein]

68. That *is* a great visual. nt

[JoePhilly]

82. Wait until Hilary takes office.

[tridim]

83. lol

Oh Manny.

[vi5]

53. Ah yes, the election year pivot (lies)

Jan-November: "I'm so sorry. I didn't mean any of that other stuff I said and did. Please come back to me. For the kids."

November-next election year: "See ya, suckers. I'm hanging out with my corporate friends. Have some punches, hippies!!!"

[woo me with science]

58. They're mad because it doesn't work anymore. nt

[vi5]

60. What's going to be even more absurd

Is the same folks who will at that point have spent the past 8 years saying "The president can't do this....The president doesn't have this power......The president doesn't have that power....." and every other rationalization in the book will then insist that we HAVE TO VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE BECAUSE THE FATE OF THE NATION DEPENDS ON IT!!!!!!!

[jsr]

70. Because we also need 99 senators to get anything done

[vi5]

75. We should make it 120 just to be safe.

And if we don't get it, it's probably your fault for wanting a pony and not clapping loud enough to make one appear.

[ryan_cats]

55. Does 12 dimension chess prove string theory?

Does 12 dimension chess prove string theory?

Are people so hard up that they're making things up? Face it, President Obama will never do anything that will please just us two but he's doing a damn good job and I still have faith.

I don't like the EO thing because I'm afraid we'll have a thuglican in the White House sometime and he'll use he President's eo as precedent.

[jsr]

56. We don't have enough money to purchase the optics to view His plan

[phleshdef]

59. "they'll be happy to mentor you"... you forgot to say "boy".

Seriously, that kind of condescending bullshit is exactly why a lot of your posts are a huge turn off. I'm pretty sure Elizabeth Warren would (in her nice Elizabeth Warren way) tell you where to go if she were to bear witness to the way you attempt to talk down to President Obama.

[MannyGoldstein]

61. So now I'm a racist?

Marvelous.

[phleshdef]

64. I didn't say you were a racist. But you do like to address the President as if he is a boy.

As if you are some superior political intellect talking down to a naive know nothing of a child.

[MannyGoldstein]

69. Well, the results speak for themselves. nt

[phleshdef]

71. Does that mean we officially have you on record then?

You believe you are superior political intellect and President Obama is a naive know nothing of a child that should be talked down to. Is that basically all true?

[Number23]

91. Surely you're not surprised by that? He's made it as obvious as he possibly could.

Though I'm sure he thinks he is being subtle.

[HangOnKids]

92. Are you officially keeping records?

Putting words in peoples mouths and then asking if that is true is the work of a manipulative deceiver.

[woo me with science]

99. Who is "we," and what sorts of records are you keeping? nt

[bvar22]

100. "we" officially have you on record ??!!!

There IS a McCarthyesque Pro-NSA Authoritarian clique at DU.

It is chilling, but not shocking, to see this kind of language used to attack Liberals at DU.

[phleshdef]

102. LOL. "McCarthyesque Pro-NSA Authoritarian clique", some of ya'll just type words that sound good...

...to you at the time, relevance takes the backseat.

We = the DU community
The Record = The database that houses all the posts that comprise the conversations that take place around here.

Can the over-dramatized hyperbole. And don't lecture me about cliques... throwing stones whilst living in a glass house and what not.

[uponit7771]

65. Another Manny post, another post of winger memes and we're supposed to read this for the

... 1234 time thinking their wouldn't being 1234 winger memes hidden throughout.

OK..

at some point the rest will give up too

[villager]

76. I hope he can change -- in the last two years of his administration

But my breath isn't necessarily held.

[tridim]

77. Thanks for the tip Always-Wrong Manny.

[warrprayer]

86. the light of truth

will never go out as long as we have Manny on D.U. - no matter how much dirt the sell outs throw on it.

[MadrasT]

98. I just gotta say, I rarely have any idea what you are going on about,

or what actual points you are trying to make. Too many layers of sarcasm to peel back or something.

[scheming daemons]

101. All of your previous poutrages proven false, you change the narrative

...to "Finally the President is listening to me!"


He's been the same all along.

You're the one who has continually moved the goalposts.... getting outraged about things that never were going to happen.

[Number23]

104. Many others have seen the same. And people wonder why this place has dropped so much