Fuck. Ugandan 'homosexuals' named in Red Pepper paper

[cali]

A Ugandan tabloid has named the country's "200 top homosexuals", a day after President Yoweri Museveni signed into law a bill toughening penalties for gay people.

Red Pepper's list appeared under the headline: "Exposed", raising concerns of a witch-hunt against gay people.

Western governments have condemned Mr Museveni's decision to approve the bill.

Uganda is a deeply conservative society where most people oppose homosexuality.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-26338941

[TDale313]

1. I can't even find the words. Damn.

[myrna minx]

2. That's disturbing. Can we grant asylum to those that are persecuted?

My god - these people will be hunted.

[stevenleser]

3. Yes, get them out of there now!

this could be horrible.

[cinnabonbon]

6. Seriously!

The faster they can find a safe place, the better.

[pampango]

4. "Mr Museveni wanted "to demonstrate Uganda's independence in the face of Western pressure ..."

Sweden's Development Assistance Minister Hillevi Engstrom called Mr Museveni's decision "terrible" and said that direct aid to Uganda, worth about $10.8m, could be withdrawn.

As a result of the new law, the Netherlands has stopped a $9.6m subsidy to Uganda's judicial system. Norway and Denmark said they would transfer direct aid - together totalling about $17m - to non-governmental organisations.

On Monday, US Secretary of State John Kerry said Mr Museveni's decision to sign the bill was a "tragic day for Uganda and for all who care about the cause of human rights".

"Now that this law has been enacted, we are beginning an internal review of our relationship with the Government of Uganda to ensure that all dimensions of our engagement, including assistance programmes, uphold our anti-discrimination policies and principles and reflect our values,'' he said in a statement. Uganda receives a reported $400m (£240m) in annual aid from the US.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-26338941

It seems that some people view NGO's as 'foreign agents' because they may spread a message at odds with the national government's thinking. (My guess is that the Ugandan government will be proclaiming this loudly in the near future.) In Uganda, it seems that switching funding from the government to NGO's is a good idea, if it is done properly.

[tandot]

5. "Uganda receives a reported $400m (£240m) in annual aid from the US"

this must stop. Our tax dollars should not be used to support a country with such utterly disgusting laws.

[pampango]

8. Or we could redirect our aid to NGO's as the Scandanavian countries are doing.

That way it may be possible to still help the Ugandan people and express our rejection of the Ugandan government's policy at the same time. We should definitely cut off aid to the government. If the NGO's cannot handle that much additional aid all at once, we should discuss what to do with other donor countries.

[tandot]

13. "Uganda is a deeply conservative society where most people oppose homosexuality"

The Government has the support of their people. They support laws that throws people in jail for just falling in love with the "wrong" gender.

I am not sure what the solution is but I am really not comfortable giving money to hateful bigots.

[Bluenorthwest]

7. I assume those on DU who are supporters of Pope Francis are calling on him to

speak against this law? His Bishops there have supported it, and Uganda is over 40% Catholic, they are the largest religious group in Uganda. So far, Francis has been murderously silent, giving his tacit support to this purely evil scenario.
Yesterday DU informed me that Francis was busy with Vatican Banking issues. Money being of course of utmost importance.

[dbackjon]

21. The silence is telling, again.

And of course the Catholic Bishopasswipes in Arizona support SB 1062

[theHandpuppet]

9. The genocide will now commence.

All the hated-filled religious extremists in collusion with this may now take a bow.

[Earth_First]

10. A friend of ours knows someone on that list...

She's reaching out in fear for his life.

She's attempting to contact our Senators about what can be done.

Absolutely horrific events unfolding in Uganda.

[riderinthestorm]

11. Oh my god, I hope they are all able to get out safely...

[Laughing Mirror]

12. Same tabloid did same thing 5 years ago

Only they only outed 45 gay and lesbians then. 

But 200 "Top Homos" as a blaring headline ought to bring in a few more sales.

Five years back Uganda gay activist, Dr. Frank Mugisha, said, "Right now, you can't go to places that are crowded, because the mob can attack us or even burn us. We can't walk alone. We are ostracized by relatives. But if this bill passes, it will become impossible for me to live here at all. And that part hurts the most."

Six hours ago, same activist tweets: "Uganda: A broken society with no more respect for humanity, life, or values."

The Red Pepper may already be in the process of compiling their Top 500. Where can they go from here?

[Pretzel_Warrior]

14. go, Cali, go! I don't even need to log in to google news anymore

[cali]

16. blow pretzie, blow. blow more meaningless hot air into

threads about hateful bigotry.

[Bluenorthwest]

17. So you are declaring your support of the Uganda pogroms?

Or are you simply exploiting an absolutely horrific reality to play personal meta games?
Which is it?

[Pretzel_Warrior]

19. neither. let me introduce you to the fallacy you've deployed

[Bluenorthwest]

23. So you are simply exploiting a genocide for your own amusement, clearly.

Today is a new low for you, this is gutter work. Seriously horrible.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

25. no. I merely kicked her thread

for exposure. your self righteous act is getting old.

[Bluenorthwest]

29. Your post is offensive and dismissive of the subject matter of the thread.

You lack of maturity is more than old, I guess your time out did not teach you much. This is about genocide, mass arrests and you are joking about it.
A new low for you, and that's very low indeed.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

30. I am not joking about it and you know it. not all things should be viewed through your prism

I've had it up to you with your hectoring tone.

PLONK! Off to the iggy list for you, bluenorthwest.

[Bluenorthwest]

34. Pretz, you are being told by several people that this is not appropriate

So it's not just 'my prism' you are the ONLY person mucking up the subject with Meta bullshit and personal attacks. It is highly inappropriate. Is there no issue you will not attempt to use as fodder for Pretz's Meta agenda?
You should be ashamed. You should self delete and apologize.

[theHandpuppet]

22. Honestly, I don't know what your post is supposed to be about

But this is a truly important topic. Can we keep it at that?

[Pretzel_Warrior]

24. it is so important that exactly WHAT will be done about it by liberal groups in the US

yes, it is important. Muslim extremists need to be defeated globally. same with any Christian or other extremists.

I was lightly poking fun at Cali on her posting rampage.

[theHandpuppet]

27. Actually, I did address some of these same issues in another thread.

Posted by Cali:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024561241

IMO, we do need to have a dialogue on what, if any, actions could/should be taken in response. But discussions can only take place if folks are willing to engage as well as react.

[Bluenorthwest]

28. Uganda is 42% Catholic, 40% Anglican, the other 18% has some Muslims and

Protestants, the fact is Uganda is a Christian nation. This is not the work of Muslim extremists.
Vile.

[uppityperson]

31. You are making fun of her for posting important news? My. What a guy you are.

[Bluenorthwest]

35. making fun? but you claimed you were not joking. Here you say it is funny to you.

"I am not joking about it and you know it. not all things should be viewed through your prism"

Making light of genocide for meta purposes. New low.

[theHandpuppet]

36. I just don't understand it, actually.

Did you post something in response to the thread topics or engage any of the issues involved? Did you make any attempt to turn a headline into an actual discussion? If not, I just don't understand your complaint. There's obviously something else going on here and I would prefer to discuss the OP. I'll leave it at that.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

37. there is no harm in what I said to cali. it doesn't prevent others from discussing in whatever way

they choose to about the OP. And in fact, our little side "discussin" is accruing to the topic's benefit by keeping it kicked and visible. So everyone wins.

[Jamastiene]

15. The hatred is just too much.

And what's worse is that America will probably still give that government money and invite them to the national prayer breakfasts.

[Lex]

18. This is the sort of thing that the right wingers would love in THIS country.

No doubt.

[dbackjon]

20. The U.S. needs to put it's military to good use

And rescue every one of them.

[Bluenorthwest]

26. Sadly the US military there works with the government directly.

We also give Uganda millions in military aid and direct support.

[sabrina 1]

33. Condemning them isn't enough. STOP FUNDING THEM. And remove the

tax free status of the Evangelicals from THIS country who have been driving these policies for years now.

Has the US ending the funding of this government? Last I heard were threats of 'holding up funding'.

[MisterP]

38. similar story down south

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutu_Power

has Uganda been importing hundreds of thousands of machetes?

[Heidi]

39. Kick!!!

[QC]

40. kick

[glinda]

41. Kick