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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 01:03 PM Feb 2014

Another J.P. Morgan banker death revealed

Jason Alan Salais, a 34-year old Information Technology specialist who had worked at JPMorgan Chase since May 2008,
died Dec. 15th 2013, while in a store in Pearland Texas, of a heart attack.

However, it turns out heart attacks in this age group are very very very rare
AND
he worked in the same field as did Gabriel Magee, a 39-year old JP Morgan VP who jumped from the roof of JP Morgan building in London 6 weeks later, Jan. 27th
AND
a 33 y/o JP Morgan guy, Dennis Li ( sometimes spelled Dennis Lee) jumped from the roof of another Morgan bank, in Hong Kong Feb. 18th.
AND
On Feb. 3
Ryan Henry Crane, 37,the Executive Director in JPMorgan’s Global Equities Group was found dead in his Stamford Ct home.
It has been reported that Crane and McGee knew each other, did similar work.
which means Crane, McGee and Salais did similar work; Dennis Li's work is not known yet.

So that is FOUR JP Morgan bankers, all in their 30's, who have died since Dec. 15th.

several links are suggested, found here:
http://wallstreetonparade.com/2014/02/another-sudden-death-of-jpmorgan-worker-34-year-old-jason-alan-salais/

As a reminder, here is the banker death list so far:

Jan. 26th[/b
London police report a 58-year-old former senior executive ,last name Broeksmit,
at Deutsche Bank AG, dead in his home after an apparent suicide. Found hanged in his home.
Jan. 27
a 39-year-old JP Morgan manager, Gerald Mcgee, died after falling from the roof of the European headquarters of JP Morgan in London.
January 29
Russell Investments’ Chief Economist Mike Dueker was found dead in an apparent suicide. Police said it appears Dueker took his own life by jumping from a ramp near the Tacoma Narrows Bridge in Tacoma, Wash., AP reported.
Feb. 3
Ryan Henry Crane, 37,the Executive Director in JPMorgan’s Global Equities Group was found dead in his Stamford Ct home. It has been reported that Crane and McGee knew each other, did similar work.
Feb. 7th
Richard Talley, 57, founder of American Title Services in Centennial, Colorado, was found dead in his home.Cause of death was
8 wounds from a nail gun fired into his torso and head.
Declared a suicide.
apparently under investigation by state regulator.


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Another J.P. Morgan banker death revealed (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Feb 2014 OP
I've been hearing about these suspicious deaths for a while Xyzse Feb 2014 #1
"8 wounds from a nail gun" = suicide? Myrina Feb 2014 #2
"I was just holding a knife... KatyMan Feb 2014 #4
That one defies imagination...! KoKo Feb 2014 #15
This story is very interesting supernova Feb 2014 #3
Information Technology specialists are bankers now? alcibiades_mystery Feb 2014 #5
where's agents Mulder and Scully when you need them? nt dionysus Feb 2014 #10
And what might an "IT" specialist happen to know about illegal trading? KoKo Feb 2014 #13
Turns out that McGee's death is being investigated now. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2014 #17
I'm surprised the guy who died via nail gun isn't being investigated riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #28
I believe the current fashion is to call them bank-STERS. (nt) TacoD Feb 2014 #14
Two cogent replies and "You are ignoring this member" alcibiades_mystery Feb 2014 #16
All this specualtion and not facts...what's taking so long? Sheepshank Feb 2014 #6
bahahaha! heat attacks in age group (37) is rare? uh, no it's not Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #7
How many in that age group BBR Esq Feb 2014 #9
On the other hand, heart attacks are rare in rattlesnakes Orrex Feb 2014 #11
That's .001%. That is very rare in my perspective.... Men over 55 its 12% riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #19
1 in 1000 is 0.1%--not 0.001% Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #20
Still, indisputably rare. nt riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #23
In the end, all forms of death can be attributed to "heart failure" hobbit709 Feb 2014 #8
What's going on at J P Morgan? Are they torturing people in there? nt Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #12
well, JP Morgan Chase has over 200K employees worldwide Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #21
Is it coincidence, is it a routine thing, or is JP Morgan the 7th level of hell... Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #26
the common thread is that all the places they worked dixiegrrrrl Feb 2014 #22
Very interesting. Someone in my family worked there... Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #25
That Ownership Class is always up to something. Octafish Feb 2014 #18
Also tend to be older cprise Feb 2014 #30
... SidDithers Feb 2014 #24
10 and counting ... TBF Feb 2014 #27
Don't go all CT on us tech3149 Feb 2014 #29
I read somewhere else today that JPM carries dead peasant insurance Holly_Hobby Feb 2014 #31
Yeah, I saw that mentioned in a couple stories dixiegrrrrl Feb 2014 #32

supernova

(39,345 posts)
3. This story is very interesting
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 01:21 PM
Feb 2014

It really does make you wonder what all these people had in common, besides high-flying, high-stress careers.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
5. Information Technology specialists are bankers now?
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 01:28 PM
Feb 2014

Wow. At least the original link had the common decency not to misrepresent this poor young man's work.

And two people who worked in IT died! Double wow.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
13. And what might an "IT" specialist happen to know about illegal trading?
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 02:33 PM
Feb 2014

Snowden was an IT Specialist. Plus, JP Morgan is a criminal enterprise considering the amount of "fines" they've paid to the Government rather than getting the prosecutions they deserve. And, they have another investigation of them currently in the works.

I think it's interesting. And, while maybe one or two deaths could be coincidental the linked article points out that the other deaths are indeed very suspicious and worthy of more thorough investigation.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
17. Turns out that McGee's death is being investigated now.
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 03:24 PM
Feb 2014

He disappeared after emailing his girlfriend that he would be home from work in a few minutes.
Last she heard of him, and she filed missing person's complaint later that night.
his body was found on a 4th story overhang of the JP Morgan building, and evidence suggets he could have jumped or been pushed from 8th floor more easily than from actual roof top.
His body was discovered by workers looking down at the overhang, at 8:02 am the next morning, so it could have been there all night.

the other death that has questions is that of 50-year old Michael (Mike) Dueker, the Chief Economist at Russell Investments,
who died the very next day. The puzzling fact in his death is he supposedly climbed over a 4 foot wall and threw himself down a 50 foot embankment, close to the Tacoma Narrows Bridge, which would have been a more obvious place to jump.
"The 50-year-old University Place resident apparently died early Wednesday when his family thought he was out jogging.
But he was not dressed for jogging and was wearing jeans and a sweater."

Russell Investments was being investigated, for shady practices and its parent company was condidering selling it.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
28. I'm surprised the guy who died via nail gun isn't being investigated
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 05:31 PM
Feb 2014

Didn't he "try" (cough) several times before finally succeeding in nail gunning himself to death?


 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
6. All this specualtion and not facts...what's taking so long?
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 01:31 PM
Feb 2014

I love a good conspracy, but this one has me on edge

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
7. bahahaha! heat attacks in age group (37) is rare? uh, no it's not
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 01:41 PM
Feb 2014

less common than in older people, but survey by American Heart Association from 2005 to 2010 shows roughly 1 in 1000 white men between 35 and 44 suffers a heart attack each year.

Orrex

(63,203 posts)
11. On the other hand, heart attacks are rare in rattlesnakes
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 02:02 PM
Feb 2014

So are other hands, now that I think of it.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
19. That's .001%. That is very rare in my perspective.... Men over 55 its 12%
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 03:31 PM
Feb 2014

Last edited Tue Feb 25, 2014, 05:26 PM - Edit history (1)

Edited to add that the guy in the OP isn't even in the age demographic you selected. He was 34 and died of a heart attack.

Also wanted to insert a for my math brain fart!

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
21. well, JP Morgan Chase has over 200K employees worldwide
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 03:36 PM
Feb 2014

so I guess we can focus everyone in banking industry that dies and tie them together in a giant conspiracy or we can acknowledge the exteremely small numbers being talked about and ask people to get serious.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
22. the common thread is that all the places they worked
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 03:37 PM
Feb 2014

are under investigation by the Feds.
Might be these guys were going to blow the whistle...or someone thought they were.
Plus, a reporter who was working on these stories has gone missing...suspiciously.

Sarah Ibarruri

(21,043 posts)
25. Very interesting. Someone in my family worked there...
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 05:10 PM
Feb 2014

He left. Now he's trying to go into music. Far more peaceful, I guess!

TBF

(32,051 posts)
27. 10 and counting ...
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 05:26 PM
Feb 2014

Jason Alan Salais, 34, Dec. 15th 2013
Gabriel Magee, 39, Jan. 27th 2014
Dennis Li, 33, Feb. 18th 2014
Ryan Henry Crane, 37, Feb. 3rd 2014
William Broeksmit, 58, Jan. 26th, 2014
Gerald McGee, 39, Jan. 27th 2014
Mike Dueker, 50, Jan. 30th 2014
Richard Talley, 56, Feb. 7th, 2014
Tim Dickenson, Jan., 2014

Plus the reporter: January 11, 2014
MISSING: David Bird, 55, long-time reporter for the Wall Street Journal working at the Dow Jones news room, went for a walk on Saturday, January 11, 2014 near his New Jersey home and disappeared without a trace. Mr. Bird was a reporter of the oil and commodity markets which happened to be under investigation by the U.S. Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations for price manipulation.

tech3149

(4,452 posts)
29. Don't go all CT on us
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 05:45 PM
Feb 2014

It's not like a car bomb killing two people in Washington DC that just happened to be left wing activists.
Seriously that stuff just doesn't happen unless you read Koontz's Dark Rivers of the Heart.

Holly_Hobby

(3,033 posts)
31. I read somewhere else today that JPM carries dead peasant insurance
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 05:52 PM
Feb 2014

on their employees, and the policies are worth millions a piece, losing their skills and productivity until they would have been 62. So the younger their employees die, the more money they're worth.

Here it is:

...

The New York Post pointed out in its reporting that there is “no other known link between any of the deaths” outside of the individuals working for the same company. In fact, there are numerous links: all of the men are in their 30s, while according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the expected longevity in 2011 for a U.S. male is 76.3 years. All of the men are believed to have been covered by a life insurance policy which pays JPMorgan upon the death of its employees. (Insurance experts say that larger death benefits can be obtained on younger, highly skilled workers because the death benefit is a function of the number of years of lost earnings.)

...

http://wallstreetonparade.com/2014/02/another-sudden-death-of-jpmorgan-worker-34-year-old-jason-alan-salais/

JPM doesn't need money that badly...do they?

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
32. Yeah, I saw that mentioned in a couple stories
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 06:45 PM
Feb 2014

as I was roaming around the web this am.

It is not so much a case of "need" the money as it is wanting any money it can get.
JP has a HUGE workforce, and dead peasant insurance is not canceled once you quit or are fired.
So eventually, they get some bucks when you die, no matter how long it takes.

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