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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 05:22 PM Feb 2014

OBAMA ANGERS DEFICIT SCOLDS

Deficit scolds distraught at Obama entitlement betrayal

The president's decision to withdraw proposed Social Security cuts has professional Beltway centrists seeing red

ALEX PAREENE


You may be pleased that the president has (for now) abandoned his Very Serious proposal to cut Social Security benefits in order to Fix the Debt (and perhaps win nebulous concessions from an uncooperative Republican Party). Do you know who’s not pleased? Professional deficit scolds, a class that includes much of the supposedly objective American political press. They are dismayed. They are practically weeping into their cups of morning joe. Why, they are asking, can’t American politicians simply grow up and cut social insurance programs?

Washington Post editorial page editor Fred Hiatt excoriates Obama’s decision to abandon a politically untenable Social Security cut, and also compares that decision, somehow, to Syria. “Did the president really once believe that the United States could no longer kick the can down the road on entitlement reform?” Hiatt asks. And “if, as [political scientist Adolph Reed Jr.] recently argued in Harper’s Magazine, Obama is ‘an unexceptional neoliberal Democrat with an exceptional knack for self-presentation,’ why do neoliberal Democrats feel disappointed, too?” Maybe you’re disappointed because every Western government fully adopted your worldview decades ago and the result has been a new Gilded Age that you can’t blame on reckless Big Government New Deal Democrats? Or maybe it’s something else, I dunno.

As Dean Baker points out, Hiatt ignores the fact that Medicare — the primary driver of “entitlement spending,” which is usually yoked to Social Security mainly because people want to use Medicare costs to justify a preexisting desire to cut Social Security — is already projected to cost much less in the future than it was before Obama came into office, and that Hiatt seems disappointed less in Obama’s failure to account for the long-term deficit than he is by Obama’s about-face on the desirability of lowering the long-term deficit by the most regressive means possible.

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http://www.salon.com/2014/02/25/deficit_scolds_distraught_at_obama_entitlement_betrayal/
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OBAMA ANGERS DEFICIT SCOLDS (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2014 OP
Again the supposed "centrists" Ignore the FACT that SS has NEVER impacted the DEFICIT and can not by Vincardog Feb 2014 #1
I'd like to see the President make them even more angry. Laelth Feb 2014 #2
..and RAISE-the-Cap on FICA dedudtions... bvar22 Feb 2014 #5
"Centrists" my ass. Wingnuts in sheep's clothing. riqster Feb 2014 #3
"Centrist" are wingnuts trying to be legitimate. rhett o rick Feb 2014 #4
Among actual voters, not so much. riqster Feb 2014 #7
Good God, Man!! What, Then, Pray Tell Us, What Can We Cut? Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #6
Hm...I'm stumped on that question, too! Jamaal510 Feb 2014 #10
Obama says: freshwest Feb 2014 #8
Obama says.. Cha Feb 2014 #11
Oooh! Love that pic so much! freshwest Feb 2014 #13
It's Cha Feb 2014 #14
Who cares what these deficit hawks think Gothmog Feb 2014 #9
Obama says.. Cha Feb 2014 #12

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
1. Again the supposed "centrists" Ignore the FACT that SS has NEVER impacted the DEFICIT and can not by
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 05:27 PM
Feb 2014

LAW. FK em

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
2. I'd like to see the President make them even more angry.
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 05:43 PM
Feb 2014

How about we up SNAP benefits and SS? Medicare for all works. How about that? If they're going to scold the President, regardless, then I think he should give them something really big to cry about.

-Laelth

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
5. ..and RAISE-the-Cap on FICA dedudtions...
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 06:07 PM
Feb 2014

...like Candidate Obama promised in 2008.

Elections have consequences.
We [should be fighting about HOW MUCH we are going to Raise-the-Cap,
not about how much to cut Social Programs.

The Democratic Party Leadership has LOST the Battle of Framing the Issue.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
3. "Centrists" my ass. Wingnuts in sheep's clothing.
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 05:46 PM
Feb 2014

Actual centrist (aka middle of the road) voters support Social Securityexpansion and enhancement, as noted in the article.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
4. "Centrist" are wingnuts trying to be legitimate.
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 06:05 PM
Feb 2014

Centrist are not "middle of the road". The middle of the road are now called leftistS. And the left are called the "EXTREME LEFT".

riqster

(13,986 posts)
7. Among actual voters, not so much.
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 06:13 PM
Feb 2014

Among the Punditocracy, yeah, it's about right.

Very much like Walt Kelly's cartoons about how the "road has shifted".

Gothmog

(145,079 posts)
9. Who cares what these deficit hawks think
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 08:16 PM
Feb 2014

It takes two parties to negotiate and President Obama did his best. It is time to take all cuts to the safety net off the table

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