Can't access the Occupy site. Censored?

[Chiquitita]

Last edited Tue Feb 25, 2014, 08:01 PM - Edit history (3)

Neither Safari not google chrome allow me to access occupywallst.org


Does anyone else have this prob. Or know any history? Thanks.

It must be my ISP blocking it. I was trying to look at it from home in GA.

[snot]

1. Just tried it and got through.

[Chiquitita]

5. What browser and device?

I can't access it through my phone either.

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. I got this on Chrome

No data received

LessReload
Unable to load the webpage because the server sent no data.
Error code: ERR_EMPTY_RESPONSE

And then got through

[Chiquitita]

30. that's the same thing I get

Last edited Tue Feb 25, 2014, 08:01 PM - Edit history (1)

on Safari it says the server dropped the connection, but it's been saying that all day. I just wanted to check their site and see what it looked like now. I haven't looked at it for over a year.

on edit, my ISP is blocking it. When I used the word 'censored' I meant it as a synonym for 'blocked'. Didn't realize all the Occupy haters would come out of the woodwork to make fun of my imprecision.

[RKP5637]

3. I can access it OK. Your ISP might be blocking it via their DNS server. I had that

happen with DU. In the right wing state where I used to live it started coming up an invalid website something like that. You might want to trying switching to OpenDNS or the Google DNS servers if you think that might be the same case for you.

[Chiquitita]

31. very helpful reply

I appreciate it.

[RKP5637]

34. Thanks for letting me know. Yes, this can be a problem sometimes, it's pretty easy

for an ISP to block traffic. I was amazed when it happened to me in a red red red state. Some people prefer to use OpenDNS or the Google ISP servers instead of their ISP's. I've had no problems with my new ISP in a different state, so I just let it default to them.

Here's some more info.:

OpenDNS >>> http://www.opendns.com/

Google DNS >>> https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/

[tkmorris]

4. Got through immediately via Firefox

On edit: Tried Chrome just for giggles and that worked too.

[treestar]

6. the government has taken it over

expect to be arrested this evening and sent to a FEMA camp.

[Chiquitita]

8. Ooh there's a knock at my door now

...

Don't come on here to make fun of people. I get enough of that in GA. Don't want to be bullied by dxcks who don't know me for asking a simple question.

[tkmorris]

10. You know, you might not like Occupy much, and that's fine

But being so derisive about it in a thread where people do is kind of a classless thing to do.

[treestar]

19. the idea their site is not loading because it is being "censored"

is worthy of derision.

[Chiquitita]

22. Deride away. But I heard it gives you

Ugly wrinkles.

[tkmorris]

27. Why would it be?

Perhaps the poster was trying from work, or on a university network, on any number of other possibilities. Any of which may well block access to a site like Occupy.

No, I think you just like being derisive wherever possible. It's a character thing.

[treestar]

43. I think they were clearly suggesting

that the government was doing it. If you are at a network that is limited from inside, you should know that. The university is not "censoring" if they are blocking it - they just don't consider it educational or whatever, or want those computers just used for school work. I think you are digging here to defend a very dumb post.

[snot]

61. I don't know any activists who HAVEN'T had experiences

warranting paranoia.

[silverweb]

7. No problem here.

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Firefox and AT&T DSL.

[Common Sense Party]

9. Censored by whom?

Who would do such a thing?

[tkmorris]

11. No one said "censored"

Such a thing is possible of course, but likely it's some other issue.

[Common Sense Party]

12. Really? I could have sworn I read that word somewhere in this thread...where was it?

[msanthrope]

14. *Raises Hand* "The thread title!" nt

[Common Sense Party]

16. Nah, that would be too obvious.

[msanthrope]

24. My favorite censorship thread....evah....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9206376

[Common Sense Party]

28. That is some amusing Chicken Little action there. nt

[pinboy3niner]

32. Brought a tear to my eye seeing blondeatlast's username there

One of our members who passed and is still missed.

R.I.P.

[msanthrope]

50. It's a shock, isn't it? You open an old thread, and there's the writing of someone who isn't

with us anymore. But their words stay.

[pintobean]

51. +1

[greatauntoftriplets]

38. There's no hardcover kindle edition???

[msanthrope]

42. Oh yeah....that was a classic! nt

[treestar]

44. You have to work pretty hard to find yourself persecuted in the US

That thread was a great example!

[msanthrope]

52. Oh..I blame Ravitch herself for that debacle. She wasn't getting enough coverage during NBC's

Education Week, so she whipped up the troops over a non-issue via Twitter and her blog. It's even funnier when Greenwald pulls a stunt like this--and expect plenty in the coming months, because he's got a book coming out.

[geek tragedy]

47. Best post from that thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=9206376&mesg_id=9206544

29. There is no price listed for hardback at the kindle site.

[msanthrope]

49. That is a DUzy Prime in a thread of DUzys. It reminds me of the crop circles threads. nt

[pintobean]

53. This message was hidden by jury decision.

I've been censored.

[msanthrope]

57. One of the Pros of Meta was that when people brought their jury decisions to it, their

"appeals" generally failed. With the exception of one or two truly bizarre jury verdicts, the vast majority of jury threads in Meta were feedback to the aggrieved that yes, they got the Hide deservedly, and were not being "censored."

I recall my alert on HopeHoops, and what that led to....


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1872383

[pintobean]

58. The really funny ones

were where they tried to make their case without a link or jury results. Someone would always dig up the post or post the jury results.

I've never understood the whining over a hidden post. We can still see it quite often in the metahofwarroom group. No one can go in there to tell them that it was deserved, though. So, the echo chamber tells them that they're all persecuted victims of a corrupt and unfair system.

[msanthrope]

59. The one jury result I complained about, I took to Admin. I called Glenn Greenwald a

"ratfucker" and the post was hidden for "homophobia" which Skinner puzzled over as much as I did.

Other alerts on "ratfucker" failed after I complained.

[pintobean]

60. I remember that.

A real head-scratcher.

It's obviously the fault of our education system. People must have been taught that there are only male rats.

[tkmorris]

26. Yeah, I overlooked it

[FSogol]

41. DUzy!

[NuclearDem]

13. Accessed it just fine here on Safari.

http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com

Good tool for situations like this.

[msanthrope]

15. That is a great website---thanks for posting it! nt

[Chiquitita]

18. Thanks!

That worked. When I try it on Safari or chrome I get an error message I've never gotten before.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

17. Lol. That's your first thought?

[Chiquitita]

20. Quit pestering people

I'll stay on this board and ask friendly people questions whether you approve of my thoughts or not.

[geek tragedy]

23. Thanks Obama! nt

[MO_Moderate]

25. Kind of figured that domain would be for sale by now

[PeoViejo]

29. NSA needs to clean-up their 'Man-in-the-Middle' Code.

[ananda]

33. I can't access it either.

I'm thinking the site is down because their FB page loads fine. Try it.

https://www.facebook.com/OccupyWallSt

[Jamaal510]

35. Occupy is still around? nt

[MMcGuire]

36. No access

Gives errors

[Downwinder]

37. Got this message with firefox and verison dsl:

Fetching of original content failed with the following error: Proxy Publisher Failure - CONNECTION ERROR. If you own this domain, please consult this FAQ.

Hit refresh and it came right (left) up.

[Trekologer]

39. Appears to be bad configuration, not nefariousness

The DNS name occupywallst.org resolves directly (a DNS "A" record) to 108.61.60.148, a IP addressed owned by ReliableServers, LLC.

$ dig occupywallst.org

; <<>> DiG 9.8.3-P1 <<>> occupywallst.org
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 20316
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;occupywallst.org. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
occupywallst.org. 3600 IN A 108.61.60.148

;; Query time: 73 msec
;; SERVER: 10.0.1.1#53(10.0.1.1)
;; WHEN: Tue Feb 25 20:34:19 2014
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 50

At the same time, the DNS name www.occupywallst.org is an alias (a DNS "CNAME" record) for pagespeed.googlehosted.com:

$ dig www.occupywallst.org

; <<>> DiG 9.8.3-P1 <<>> www.occupywallst.org
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 8110
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.occupywallst.org. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.occupywallst.org. 5 IN CNAME pagespeed.googlehosted.com.
pagespeed.googlehosted.com. 241 IN A 173.194.74.121

;; Query time: 42 msec
;; SERVER: 10.0.1.1#53(10.0.1.1)
;; WHEN: Tue Feb 25 20:37:28 2014
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 94

Google's Pagespeed is a website caching/content delivery network service. When one sets up Pagespeed for their website, Google caches the content of the website and then serves it from geographically-redundant data centers around the world. Based on the error returned by the Pagespeed, it seems that the Occupy folks have a configuration error.

Due to this, it seems that the reason http://occupywallst.org works while http://www.occupywallst.org does not is a configuration error, not purposely blocking.

[Chiquitita]

40. Thanks

The kind of answer I was hoping someone smart about these things might offer! I appreciate it!

[treestar]

45. Oh but it couldn't be something like that!

Our first thought must be "censorship!"

[randome]

46. At least the government changed the conversation.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Aspire to inspire.[/center][/font][hr]

[ananda]

48. Using Opera and Safari by way of an Excite search ..

.. I managed to open it.

But it still won't open on Firefox no matter what.

Occupy's Facebook page opens fine.

[MADem]

54. Chrome isn't censoring it. I pulled it up, too, using Chrome. nt

[Chiquitita]

55. I still think it is being blocked by my ISP

My internet service provider -- which is Charter Georgia. I may be wrong, but it's the only explanation that makes sense.

[MADem]

56. Maybe--you could call them and ask.

Can't see why they'd bother, though. The latest "news" is a letter from someone that sounds like it's astroturf, like it was written by someone who is running the website.

There's nothing terribly subversive on the page at all.

Maybe the site owners have some squirrely code in their web page.

[Chiquitita]

63. This could be

It might be what the poster above explained, or something along those lines. Thanks. MADem. It's not a huge deal. One day recently I remembered, 'there used to by Occupy, where did those people go?' and so I looked up the site and had a problem I'd never had as a frequent internet user. To be honest I was surprised that so many people immediately derided me and laughed at me for posting my question. I've been on this site since 2004 and rarely post. You model such a friendly, tolerant way of interacting (like I remember DU being 10 years ago).

I think that memory is important -- not just what is happening at the moment. So, however the mainstream memory of that movement is defined, that's the power it will have in the future.

[Go Vols]

62. Although I live in Tenn. and have Charter

My DNS server is Charter in Ga. and I can get thru on Firefox just fine.

[Chiquitita]

64. I didn't try Firefox

Just Chrome and Safari. Thanks.