"religious freedom" refusal of service question

[uppityperson]

I know this has been passed for sexual orientation bigotry, but can they apply it to anyone else they want? I was wondering "have they thought this through" and came up with the obvious answer of "duh, no", which then made me ponder on it more. And to realize I really do not understand these people a lot of the time.

So, on to my question.

Let's say a person's "religion" says women should not be seen in public. They can deny them, right? No women in grocery stores, for instance.

What if Gluttony is a Sin? Can they deny service to someone of a certain size? Hey you! Get out of my store!

A unmarried couple can no longer have go out to a romantic dinner because that will lead to SEX which is a sin unless you are married to a person of the opposite sex, in the dark, under the covers.

What if my "religion" precludes me from interacting with people of other religions or gods help us...atheists. Can I demand biblical quotations before changing the oil on someone's car?

[IggleDoer]

1. SB 1062 was written so broadly, so that its sponsors could not be thought of as anti-gay.

However, this broadness of the bill allows anyone to deny service for anything that they hold asm a "deeply held belief," even if it is not in the "Bible."

[MineralMan]

2. Well, economic necessity will prevent most businesses from

using this much, even if it goes into effect. Bigotry and consumer businesses do not work well together. Personally, I consider all of these bills being introduced as primarily blustering on the part of the right wingers. Most aren't viable, constitutionally, and would be tossed by the first Federal judge to rule on them.

It's a desperation move to try to retain seats by hard right legislators.

[uppityperson]

5. Freckles are a sign of the devil! Be gone Dammed Spotted one! No flowers for you!

I know, but they could. It is just really odd. I do not understand. I guess feeding people a steady diet of fear, hate, distraction to make distract from other things going on? As well as News being sold as entertainment.

[MineralMan]

10. I can see a popular Mexican food restaurant in

Arizona posting a sign:

Only Spanish Spoken Here - English-only Speakers Not Welcome

Or an Indian Restaurant:

Non-Hindu's Prohibited for Religious Reasons

[William769]

3. It's a license to discriminate against anything you don't like under the guise of religious freedom.

Plain and simple, end of story.

[uppityperson]

7. yup

to you and to them

[TlalocW]

4. You need to couch it in slightly more "radical" terms

Ask conservatives what happens when a man refuses to serve a woman because his deeply held religious beliefs tell him that she should be wearing a burqa. Wouldn't the conservatives who backed this law then be responsible for Sharia Law coming to America?

As evidenced by the responses to my FB post on this last night, they don't like that insinuation.

TlalocW

[uppityperson]

9. Thank you, exactly. All that crap about omg Obama's bringing sharia law when THEY are the ones doing

[wocaonimabi]

14. The only difference between an Islamic and Christian Fundamentalists is the beards

Worn by Islamic Males, other than that both groups are identical.

[TlalocW]

16. Even that's not 100%

Duck Dynasty.

TlalocW

[DetlefK]

6. It's basically whether you have the right to encroach on someone else's rights.

"Freedom" is just a buzz-word to conservatives, meaning the ability to do what they deem right.

Guess what? The kind of "freedom" they envision does not exist in society, only for people living alone outside of a society. If you live in a society, you always trade in a part of your freedom for the amenities the society offers.

For example: The concept of ownership.
It does not exist in nature, you can take and use whatever you want.
If you live in a society, you have to take into account who owns something and what rules apply, before you can take something.

[plcdude]

8. remember when divorce

was determined by Biblical standards to be wrong? Some divorced people were in a continual state of adultery. Should we deny service to them?

[wandy]

11. I am an IT person and a Blueist. My devout religious belief...............

I am an IT person and a Blueist. My devout religious belief holds that all those with green eyes are works of the devil.
I will not serve them.
My country supports me in this.

I am a waiter and a Blueist. My devout religious belief holds that all those with green eyes are works of the devil.
I will not serve them.
My country supports me in this.

I am a fireman and a Blueist. My devout religious belief holds that all those with green eyes are works of the devil.
I will not serve them.
My country supports me in this.

I am a doctor and a Blueist. My devout religious belief holds that all those with green eyes are works of the devil.
I will not serve them.
My country supports me in this.

Just change a few words here or there and you can see the direction in which this is headed.
Yes, I believe they "have thought this through".

[uppityperson]

13. Indeed. There is that.

[sibelian]

15. That works.

I think that's the best reveal of how utterly weird this law is I've seen yet...

[Lost_Count]

12. I say let em have it...

Why would you want to support a business that would discriminate against you, if given the choice?

Let the true bigots be identified and watch as their businesses fade away.

[uppityperson]

19. yup, just like all those "no colored allowed" businesses of yesteryear, right?

No. I prefer to work and fight to not have it be legal to do that.

[dilby]

17. Yes, Yes, Yes and Yes

In AZ currently it's completely legal to discriminate against people based on sexual preference, homosexuality is not protected under anti-discrimination laws. So this law to me seems more of a way for people to discriminate against anything and use religion as their reason.

However it should be noted that anyone who is dumb enough to do this won't be in business for long. In Oregon we had a bakery that discriminated against a lesbian couple and used religion as their reason. The government did not need to shut the business down because people stopped going there, this business is still operating out of their home but it's pretty much in it's death throws because they have no customers.

[RainDog]

18. "Jesus wept."

shortest verse in the bible. keep it handy....