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cali

(114,904 posts)
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 11:37 AM Feb 2014

The President's Appointments in the USTR Are Horrible. And Tell Us

Everything we need to know about his views and philosophy on trade.

First of all, Michael Froman comes from a background of Big Banking. Citibank to be precise. Froman is leading the charge and he's aggressively pro big corporations and practically dismissive of public interest organizations, though he certainly gives lip service to it.


Islam Siddiqui, oth, is an outspoken and big time supporter of GMOs. He has actively worked to defeat GMO labeling. He's a former lobbyist for such companies as Monsanto, Bayer Crop Life and Dupont, among others

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_A._Siddiqui

And now he's added another lobbyist by nominating a big time SOPA lobbyist as deputy USTR.

This should alarm you unless you're too slow to understand why it's problematic or so wrapped up in believing that President Obama is the bestest prez ever and these are GRRRREAT nominations.

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The President's Appointments in the USTR Are Horrible. And Tell Us (Original Post) cali Feb 2014 OP
Appointments SamKnause Feb 2014 #1
+100000, but I would pick a different word than "clueless." woo me with science Feb 2014 #5
Corrupt and evil sellouts SamKnause Feb 2014 #7
It's 13th dimensional chess -- Make the TPP so bad people will force him to reject it Armstead Feb 2014 #2
Yes, but Romney, McCain. Worse, right? So shut up. Scuba Feb 2014 #3
What if ProSense Feb 2014 #4
Do these appointments alarm YOU? n/t hughee99 Feb 2014 #6
Stop being rational! How dare you not see everything in black & white! JaneyVee Feb 2014 #9
it strikes me that rational really doesn't comprise your posting history. It's very emotional cali Feb 2014 #11
Please. My posting history? I'll wait for your links to my "emotional history". JaneyVee Feb 2014 #12
oh boy, the lady doth deny. the least emotional? Nope. Not close cali Feb 2014 #13
LOL OK. You must have me mistaken for someone else. JaneyVee Feb 2014 #14
uh, nope. and your first comment in this thread cali Feb 2014 #16
What thread, this one?: JaneyVee Feb 2014 #17
Btw, I'm also against KXL, which I've also stated numerous times. But... JaneyVee Feb 2014 #18
See here: JaneyVee Feb 2014 #19
Would Mr. Spock be proud of your 'emotionless' posts? Whisp Mar 2014 #28
It's easy to be anti-Republican, it's more difficult to be discerning as to which Democrats rhett o rick Feb 2014 #21
my policy is to not answer questions from you, pro cali Feb 2014 #10
I decided if I actually saw a real attempt at discussion Rex Feb 2014 #20
They ask a lot of questions but rarely provide any answers. Just Asking Questions rhett o rick Mar 2014 #24
There's got to be a pole dancer involved... woo me with science Feb 2014 #8
if the knightly adorers of President Obama could use that as a deflection in this thread cali Feb 2014 #15
Tammy Wynette (Stand by Your Man) would be proud. bvar22 Feb 2014 #22
Blind loyalty makes life easier. We see it in lots of aspects of life. rhett o rick Mar 2014 #23
And ... Hitler makes an appearance!!! JoePhilly Mar 2014 #26
forget Hitler. Do you grasp why people could find these appointments cali Mar 2014 #27
And again, no answer. Marr Mar 2014 #31
"They" seem content in taking pot shots at posts, posters, or sources in lieu of entering the rhett o rick Mar 2014 #33
That's your input to the discussion? Is there an implication there? Do you have a point? nm rhett o rick Mar 2014 #32
K&R woo me with science Mar 2014 #25
I have given up on him with those appointments. Cleita Mar 2014 #29
It's what they reflect and indicate that's so troublesome cali Mar 2014 #30

SamKnause

(13,101 posts)
1. Appointments
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 11:45 AM
Feb 2014

He continues to appointment enemies of the 99% and enemies of the environment.

He is doing what no Republican could get away with.

The good cop, bad cop scenario is getting old.

What is the point of voting when both parties are clueless ???

It sickens me.

When the Democratic politicians cave in on social issues the coup will be complete.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
5. +100000, but I would pick a different word than "clueless."
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 12:41 PM
Feb 2014

They know exactly what they're doing, and whom they work for.

It's not We the People.

SamKnause

(13,101 posts)
7. Corrupt and evil sellouts
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 12:51 PM
Feb 2014

is a better description.

Everything they do is intentional.

They are intentionally destroying every thing that matters to the 99% in the U.S. and around the globe.

Mass unemployment and starvation is the future.

If you are not rich, you will die.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
2. It's 13th dimensional chess -- Make the TPP so bad people will force him to reject it
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 11:53 AM
Feb 2014

He's getting really good at that shit.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
3. Yes, but Romney, McCain. Worse, right? So shut up.
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 12:30 PM
Feb 2014

You got a bone thrown to you - (insert social justice issue here) - so complaining about his giving away the store just proves you're a racist hater, or purist, or that you don't want to win elections, or that you're not "reality based", or something. So just shut up.










(sarcasm thingy here for those without the gene)

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
4. What if
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 12:36 PM
Feb 2014

"This should alarm you unless you're too slow to understand why it's problematic or so wrapped up in believing that President Obama is the bestest prez ever and these are GRRRREAT nominations. "

...it if it does "alarm you," but you still believe that "President Obama is the bestest prez ever"?

Do you think that not "GRRRREAT nominations" means that President Obama is the worstest "prez ever"?

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
9. Stop being rational! How dare you not see everything in black & white!
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 02:50 PM
Feb 2014

How dare you understand that no one is perfect and you will disagree with them from time to time but that they are still worthy of your respect! Don't you know where you are?! If we can't have perfection, then we must tear it all down!!!

As for me, I believe sometimes progress is measured one inch at a time.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
11. it strikes me that rational really doesn't comprise your posting history. It's very emotional
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 03:29 PM
Feb 2014

and it's largely about your attachment to this president.

you make excuse after excuse after excuse. insist that it's personal to others, the way it is to you and generally attempt to divert attention from any criticism of President Obama.

Do you think that you can get an indication of Presidential priorities on an issue from who that President appoints?

This really isn't personal to me. President Obama? Likable man. Great politician. Better than Romney or McCain by leagues on social issues. His trade policies? Pushing the TPP and TTIP? Horrible. His economic issues? Often way too weak and way too kind to corporations and the 1%.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
12. Please. My posting history? I'll wait for your links to my "emotional history".
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 03:38 PM
Feb 2014

Nice projection though. I'm probably the LEAST emotionally connected person to politics you'll ever meet. My emotional connection is to progress, labor, and the working class. It just so happens that one party offers absolutely NO ideas or solutions to further either cause and are actually quite openly against those principles. I'm more of an anti-Republican by any means necessary. Don't mind me for pointing out the obvious above.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
13. oh boy, the lady doth deny. the least emotional? Nope. Not close
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 03:45 PM
Feb 2014

Your devotion to President Obama is something you've stressed repeatedly. You think he's wonderful. Your posts come from that place.

I sure don't see YOU standing up for labor when you dismiss things like the TPP and President Obama's appointments to the USTR.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
18. Btw, I'm also against KXL, which I've also stated numerous times. But...
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 04:12 PM
Feb 2014

Here's the thing, the ONLY thing my above comment proves is that I meant exactly what I said. Yes, I have defended Obama, and yes, I have criticized Obama. That's what normal RATIONAL people do. Unlike some people here...

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
21. It's easy to be anti-Republican, it's more difficult to be discerning as to which Democrats
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 07:44 PM
Feb 2014

to support. Some Democrats, while better than the Repub Clowns, are not for the working class. The "best of evils" theory isnt getting it done, as we continue our slide into mass poverty. Instead of trying to bolster American jobs, the Admin is concentrating on "fast tracking" the TPP thru which appears to kill American jobs among other destruction for the lower classes.

The D vs. R choice is simple. The Progressive D vs. the Conservative D, is a much hard choice.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
10. my policy is to not answer questions from you, pro
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 03:23 PM
Feb 2014

if you ever stop playing cut and paste and/or parroting back what another has said, I might consider it.

I will as you question, however:

Do you think it's reasonable to draw conclusions about the President's trade priorities from these appointments?

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
20. I decided if I actually saw a real attempt at discussion
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 04:15 PM
Feb 2014

but alas no such attempt has been made. Not just pro, but about 5 or 6 others as well. As long as they like a black and white world, there will be no debate.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
24. They ask a lot of questions but rarely provide any answers. Just Asking Questions
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 12:29 PM
Mar 2014

is a technique often used by Faux News. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Just_asking_questions

Be careful, I got a hide for suggesting that someone here was "Just Asking Questions".

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
15. if the knightly adorers of President Obama could use that as a deflection in this thread
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 03:48 PM
Feb 2014

they would. Instead they're going with bankrupt "you hate him" crap. Admit that these appointments indicate something about the President's trade policies and priorities? Never. They love him too much to allow for criticism.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
22. Tammy Wynette (Stand by Your Man) would be proud.
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 08:54 PM
Feb 2014

Letting fealty to ANY person (especially a politician) trump Issues, Policies and Values
is a luxury most of us can't afford.




 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
23. Blind loyalty makes life easier. We see it in lots of aspects of life.
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 12:26 PM
Mar 2014

Blindly follow your parents, teachers, police, armed service, boss, President, etc. makes life easier for the authoritarian leaders and the authoritarian followers. This is usually a conservative trait. Liberals/progressives often fight among themselves as they resist the conformity demanded by our authoritarian leaders.
It's easy to see that when a master authoritarian like Clapper demands complete power in exchange for a "promise" of security, who the authoritarian followers are. They are more than willing to give up their freedoms and liberties for that "promise" of security. Hitler convinced a whole country.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
27. forget Hitler. Do you grasp why people could find these appointments
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 02:30 PM
Mar 2014

disturbing? Do you understand why people can see them as reflection of the President's corporate friendly policies?

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
31. And again, no answer.
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 02:46 PM
Mar 2014

It's such a simple question, but none of them seem willing to answer it. Strange.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
33. "They" seem content in taking pot shots at posts, posters, or sources in lieu of entering the
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 03:06 PM
Mar 2014

discussion.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
29. I have given up on him with those appointments.
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 02:36 PM
Mar 2014

*throws hands up in despair*

I still like him for other reasons, but this kind of governing is very disappointing.

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