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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 06:32 PM Feb 2014

A good illustration of white privilege in charts

The black/white marijuana arrest gap, in nine charts
By Dylan Matthews
June 4, 2013 at 12:41 pm

As you're probably aware, black Americans are arrested for marijuana possession far more frequently than whites. You may also know that there's not much evidence that black people consume marijuana with greater regularity than whites do.

But the extent of the disparity between the rate of arrest and the rate of use for white and black Americans may surprise you. The ACLU has an absurdly comprehensive new report tracking marijuana possession arrests for blacks and whites at the national, state and county level. Sure enough, they find that black and white people use marijuana at roughly the same rates:



In at least one year, the white usage rate was higher. The others, the black usage rate was higher, but in no year were results for the two races that different. For young people ages 18-25, the rates of use are higher for whites:



<...>

Of course, this doesn't translate to roughly equal arrest rates. Not even close:



And this is a uniform phenomenon. It's not that some states treat the races equally and others treat them really unequally. Only in Hawaii are the rates even close to equal, and that's biased by the fact that blacks make up only 1.6 percent of the population. In the state with the second-lowest disparity, Alaska, blacks are 1.6 times more likely to be arrested. In the state with the biggest, Iowa, blacks are 8.34 times more likely to be arrested. D.C. has the second biggest; in the District, blacks are 8.05 times more likely to be arrested.

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/06/04/the-blackwhite-marijuana-arrest-gap-in-nine-charts/
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A good illustration of white privilege in charts (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 OP
Kick! n/t ProSense Feb 2014 #1
Lots of recs, needs a KICK! morningfog Feb 2014 #2
rec & kick. MerryBlooms Feb 2014 #3
But that's not on the list of Officially-Approved Topics of Revolutionaries. geek tragedy Feb 2014 #4
You must have missed it ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #11
because if they legalized pot, cops would stop hassling young black men nt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #19
somone here asked what the big deal was getting stopped by cops- just a millisecond they said. bettyellen Feb 2014 #5
Yeah, but who are you going to believe? ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #6
**snort** n/t jtuck004 Feb 2014 #8
thank you cali dem good post nt arely staircase Feb 2014 #7
K&R n/t jtuck004 Feb 2014 #9
K&R n/t JoeyT Feb 2014 #10
Kick & Rec tea and oranges Feb 2014 #12
K&R redqueen Feb 2014 #13
k&r Starry Messenger Feb 2014 #14
This breaks apart/exposes quite a bit, I think. KittyWampus Feb 2014 #15
Instead of disparaging other DU'ers over whether they are too white or not, this is something RC Feb 2014 #16
Are you saying the problem this illustrates is with all marijuana arrests cui bono Feb 2014 #27
I think you missed the sarcasm in my post. RC Mar 2014 #29
Okay, gotcha. I agree with that. n/t cui bono Mar 2014 #30
Everyone should read The New Jim Crow. Cal Carpenter Feb 2014 #17
"White privilege" being... gulliver Feb 2014 #18
+1000 noiretextatique Mar 2014 #34
Now THIS is how you make a point ConservativeDemocrat Feb 2014 #20
The same dynamic exists for men and women Major Nikon Feb 2014 #21
Statistics JJChambers Mar 2014 #35
From the link: Major Nikon Mar 2014 #36
k&r nt steve2470 Feb 2014 #22
K & R SunSeeker Feb 2014 #23
K&R! DeSwiss Feb 2014 #24
Like I say, it's cuz much the country is still stuck in the 60's!!!!!!!!! grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #25
Kick bobduca Feb 2014 #26
When the whole thing is in plain sight like this, I don't see how anyone can quibble over semantics. nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #28
because it makes some white people uncomfortable Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #37
+1000 noiretextatique Mar 2014 #41
Yeah, I think you're pretty dead on there. nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #45
Thank you, Cali! Cha Mar 2014 #31
Truth RobertEarl Mar 2014 #32
+1 uponit7771 Mar 2014 #33
The WOD is racist to its core. Arresting more whites for pot won't fix that. Romulox Mar 2014 #38
+1 n/t lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #40
true that...a more accurate description noiretextatique Mar 2014 #42
The fact remains... Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #43
K&R n/t myrna minx Mar 2014 #39
Define "Race" BodieTown Mar 2014 #44
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
11. You must have missed it ...
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 07:50 PM
Feb 2014

I'm pretty certain I saw a post of 200, saying "{paraphrasing} We must legalize marijuana so I can get my high on, unmolested ... er, so those poor Black folks will be unfairly targeted by our unjudicial system."

I'm certain I did!

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
5. somone here asked what the big deal was getting stopped by cops- just a millisecond they said.
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 07:29 PM
Feb 2014

dude, it's a go to jail card.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
6. Yeah, but who are you going to believe?
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 07:31 PM
Feb 2014

Those who tell you what exists and what doesn't, or your own lying eyes?

K&R

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
16. Instead of disparaging other DU'ers over whether they are too white or not, this is something
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 07:58 PM
Feb 2014
we all can behind and fix.
Now that is where the real victims are - Out in the real world, getting put in prison for a mostly benign, widely available weed.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
27. Are you saying the problem this illustrates is with all marijuana arrests
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 10:56 PM
Feb 2014

and not the disproportionate arrests of blacks for marijuana as compared to whites?

I have never seen a post that said someone was too white. There is a current discussion about white privilege which a lot of people on DU surprisingly deny exists, but that's not at all disparaging anyone for being too white.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
29. I think you missed the sarcasm in my post.
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 12:49 AM
Mar 2014

But whatever, we lock up too many people in this country, for too long, with too many being Blacks and other minorities.
We can afford $30,000 a year (or what ever) to lock someone up, but can't afford $5,000 in food stamps, or unemployment, or proper health care, or a long list of help and assistance people in other countries take for granted.

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
17. Everyone should read The New Jim Crow.
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 08:07 PM
Feb 2014
http://newjimcrow.com/

Particularly those who doubt this, or try to justify it, or who argue that if we just stopped talking about race it wouldn't be a problem.

ConservativeDemocrat

(2,720 posts)
20. Now THIS is how you make a point
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 08:22 PM
Feb 2014

It's strictly fact-based.

It's irrefutable.

And it's missing the screaming-Greenie batshit-crazy accusations.


It's actually a good set of charts to make print out and bring down to your local police station. Approached rationally and non-confrontationally, many (admittedly not all) police can be persuaded to rethink their prejudices.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

 

JJChambers

(1,115 posts)
35. Statistics
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 08:32 AM
Mar 2014

Do these studies differentiate between simple possession arrests and distribution arrests? In my experience, the big percentage of weed dealers have been male. A few women from time to time, but a very small percentage overall. This could have something to do with the disparity.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
36. From the link:
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 09:09 AM
Mar 2014

"Marijuana Possession Arrests Among Selected Groups"

Percentage of Annual Users:

Male 60.11%, Female 39.89%

Percentage of Possession Arrests:

Male 85.53%, Female 14.47%

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
28. When the whole thing is in plain sight like this, I don't see how anyone can quibble over semantics.
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 11:35 PM
Feb 2014

How exactly is the phrase "white privilege" inappropriate for describing this appalling state of affairs?

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
37. because it makes some white people uncomfortable
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 11:55 AM
Mar 2014

it is very important to not upset the white people. So everyone has to tip-toe around in their socks wearing white gloves, and asking in a hushed voice "what words can we use to describe this situation that won't cause you such upset?".

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
45. Yeah, I think you're pretty dead on there.
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 06:08 PM
Mar 2014

And given what's at stake, I can only see those folks as appallingly narcissistic, at best.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
32. Truth
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 02:14 AM
Mar 2014

Something is terribly wrong in this country, still. You've presented some Truth about one of the many screwed up ways PTB- Powers That Be just love to mess with people.

If we could all just get our act together things could change.

Romulox

(25,960 posts)
38. The WOD is racist to its core. Arresting more whites for pot won't fix that.
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 12:01 PM
Mar 2014

That's one of the dangers of the "privilege" framing--it takes emphasis off the who and the why of the problem--in this case, that the War on Drugs was designed from its inception to be racist--the new Jim Crow.


So many of these discussions seem to hinge on a false dichotomy: either you acknowledge White Privilege, or you flatly deny it. But there's more to the discussion than that. It's frustrating that an attempt to discuss these issues feels like putting your neck out, with people attacking based on the "you must deny racism exists!" premise no matter how many times you point out that there are more than one way to understand how racism works in our society.

But the charts clearly show that the War on Drugs is racist to its core.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
42. true that...a more accurate description
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 12:40 PM
Mar 2014

Your post is right on. This "war" was yet another racist initiative by design, and it achieved the desired goals. It is institutional, not personal.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
43. The fact remains...
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 01:05 PM
Mar 2014

whites enjoy the privilege of being much less likely to be arrested for marijuana than blacks.

That's a privilege afforded to whites, not blacks obviously.

BodieTown

(147 posts)
44. Define "Race"
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 02:26 PM
Mar 2014

Even if there's a 50/50 mix of white/black, the person is usually defined as black.

And sometimes, if you have a whisper of black blood in your ancestry, you are defined (or define yourself) as black.

I think Figure 21 would be overwhelmingly bright pink if adjusted for bias.

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