I know the dem party has to be a big tent, but that doesn't make corporate conservative

[cali]

dems anything but what they are: Pigs at the trough. Mary Landrieu is a conservative corporate dem. So is Joe Manchin.

The only way that these pigs are better than corporate repuke pigs is that they keep people like Ron Wyden and Pat Leahy as Chairs of committees. On the other hand, with Mary Landrieu as chair of the Energy Committee, dems are making some disgusting deals with the devil and trading away the health and welfare of the American people.

So yeah, big party, but let's not pretend that these people are anything but what they are.

Pigs at the trough.

[Laelth]

1. Hear, hear!

And remember Truman:

I've seen it happen time after time. When the Democratic candidate allows himself to be put on the defensive and starts apologizing for the New Deal and the fair Deal, and says he really doesn't believe in them, he is sure to lose. The people don't want a phony Democrat. If it's a choice between a genuine Republican, and a Republican in Democratic clothing, the people will choose the genuine article, every time; that is, they will take a Republican before they will a phony Democrat, and I don't want any phony Democratic candidates in this campaign.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Harry_S._Truman

-Laelth

[cali]

2. Good Morning, Laelth.

thanks for the kick and the quote.

[Laelth]

13. My pleasure, and good morning to you. Bonus kick. n/t

-Laelth

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

59. All Democrats should take heed of this quote!

[HughBeaumont]

3. K & R. The Friedman worship has got to go.

In the upper echelons of power, not much in the way of progressive thought going on . . .

[stillwaiting]

4. Add my 2 Virginia Senators to your list of corpo Dems.

We have a few MAJOR "villains" that tend to steal the spotlight, but the Senate is packed with corporate Democrats.

The corporations have a VERY large bench in the Democratic Senate right now.

It will take a massive movement to wake up our fellow Americans.

[cali]

6. Thanks. Absolutely true that corporations have a deep bench of dems

lots of denial of that on DU.

[woo me with science]

11. Yup, and now Terry McAuliffe as governor.

He is as Third Way slimy and lying as they come, as his record of corruption *already* showed even prior to the election. The first thing he did upon being elected was to abandon his campaign talk about using the budget to expand Medicaid in Virginia. He is now insisting he still wants an expansion, but he has decided he wants to work legislatively with Republicans, instead, so he is warning that it will take a long time.

I frankly do not expect an expansion of Medicaid in Virginia under this Third Way snake.

[FSogol]

18. You are completely wrong. He's still working for Medicaid expansion.

It is impossible to get it thru the VA House without Republican support, so it is necessary to work legislatively.

[woo me with science]

30. You mistake rhetoric for intent.

His behavior tells the tale. He lied during the campaign and said that he would submit a budget that included Medicaid expansion. That would have been a concrete demonstration of his seriousness on the issue. He has completely backtracked on that.

The argument will be about helplessness again, as it always is. Why bother to put it in the budget, if Republicans won't pass it?

This is the Third Way con game, and we've seen it before. Obama campaigned passionately for a public option, but once the actual insurance company negotiations were underway, he never mentioned it again and quietly dropped it in a backroom deal...even though and probably *because* polls showed great public support that could have been mobilized to pressure Republicans to accept it.

Once again, a Third Way politician talked specifically about what he would *do* to push forward a progressive policy, but then changed his mind once in office. Now we face a drawn-out Kabuki of PR legislative negotiations in which the Republicans will have the upper hand, and that the papers, and McAuliffe's own choices about his budget, are already saying will go nowhere.

[FSogol]

38. And you insert "third way" & some generic anti-corporate nonsense as a excuse to criticize Democrats.

McAullife is working toward expanding Medicaid.

Here you go: "McAuliffe budget amendments include Medicaid expansion"

http://news.fredericksburg.com/on-politics/2014/01/20/mcauliffe-budget-amendments-include-medicaid-expansion/

and http://hamptonroads.com/2014/02/mcauliffe-wants-conservative-budget-medicaid

Note the 2/28/14 quote from the GOP House leaders: “We are disappointed the Governor continues to demand ObamaCare’s Medicaid expansion as a condition of budget negotiations".

[woo me with science]

50. From your own article:

He wrote a letter. He did not put it in the budget.

McAuliffe isn’t making formal budget amendments, but gave the chairmen of the two legislative budget committees a list of his amendment proposals on Monday.

Again, words versus actions. The illusion of corporate Red fighting corporate Blue is part of the game. Republicans also pretend that they are battling "socialist" Obama, when they know full well that he supports the surveillance state, the police state, drone wars, drilling, fracking, privatization, corporate education policy, etc., just like they do.

Third Way patterns of behavior. Actions, not words. You believe the words, but I rely on the pattern of behavior to predict what comes next.

I honestly hope you are right and I am wrong, but I also hope corporate Democrats will put an end to the surveillance state tomorrow. I've followed Terry McAuliffe's Third Way rhetorical oiliness for years, and I don't believe for a minute that he really intends to make Medicaid expansion happen under his administration.

I guess we'll see who's right.

[Enthusiast]

73. +1 a whole bunch! "rhetorical oiliness"

Corporate Democrats are a scourge.

We are tired of rhetorical oiliness and weasel words! And the worst is an oily weasel. We are very tired of those MFers.

[FSogol]

88. How come when I go to meetings and events in my district with other Democrats, attitude like yours

and others on DU do not exist? No one is chanting "third way" or bashing corpo-dems, or Dinos? Why does this only appear on online? Why?

McAullife ran way to the left of Cuccinelli. He didn't have to, he could have run as a moderate to win. His first actions involved supporting the LTBQ community and supporting Women. Regardless of his past, he deserves the benefit of the doubt. He won a major election in VA with a D rating from the NRA. He is currently working on dragging the GOP controlled legislature into supporting medicaid expansion. He certainly doesn't deserve daily bashing on "Democratic" websites by so-called "Democrats."

[Enthusiast]

94. You have hit upon how Third Way has successfully dragged the party to the right.

Third Way has never announced their dubious intentions. They have done it in a low down sneaky way, by keeping their goals on the QT. You think Democrats would support a candidate that favors privatizing social security if they knew?

See, those of us that are in the know, we prefer actual Democrats to rats. Let us hope that all Democrats adopt my attitude quickly before these Fascists in Democratic clothing drag the party clear off into right wing la la land.

[FSogol]

95. All I hear is online malcontents that refuse to do the hard work of getting good people elected

in lieu of supporting mythical pure candidates that never seem to win or get their bills out of subcommittees.

Bonus points for working "third way," "rats," and "fascist" into your rant. BTW, "rats" is is what the RW calls Democrats. How did you ever pick up that?

There are no Democrats in my state that support privatizing SS. Do they exist or is that just the hair-on-fire reaction to offering something to start a dialogue with a party intent on gridlock?

LOL at the "in the know" crowd.

[ProSense]

5. Wait,

"The only way that these pigs are better than corporate repuke pigs is that they keep people like Ron Wyden and Pat Leahy as Chairs of committees. "

...didn't you say Leahy should retire in response to the fact that he helped to write the Farm bill?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024441624#post42
I agree. Landrieu is a tool.

In Senate Shuffle, Landrieu Takes Over Energy & Natural Resources Committee

With Senator Max Baucus (D-MT) confirmed as the next US ambassador to China, there's about to be a reshuffling of leadership in the Senate Energy & Natural Resources committee - a key committee for the renewable energy and environmental community.

Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR), who replaces Baucus as Chair of the Senate Finance Committee, says a top priority will be extending the slew of energy efficiency and renewable energy tax credits that were allowed to expire at the end of last year.

And who will take Wyden's place as Chair of the Energy and Natural Resources Committee? One of the few remaining "blue-dog" Democrats - Senator Mary Landrieu (D-LA).

Landrieu, one of the few remaining "blue-dog" Democrats, is known for her bias toward the oil and gas industry - a fact of life for her constituents in Louisiana. She will be joined by Lisa Murkowski (R-AK), the top Republican on the committee who also tends to stand with fossil fuel interests.

A few key votes gives you an idea of Landrieu's stance:

• She voted to approve the Keystone XL pipeline
  
• She was one of 4 Democrats who voted to permanently strip the EPA of its authority to limit greenhouse gas emissions and veto the agency's scientific finding that climate change threatens public health and welfare.
  
• She was one of 4 Democrats to vote against eliminating fossil fuel subsidies
  
• She was one of 6 Democrats who urged Obama to give up on getting a cap-and-trade bill through the Senate in 2009, but that was because it was an election year

- more -

http://www.sustainablebusiness.com/index.cfm/go/news.display/id/25501

[cali]

7. I don't answer questions from you until you can

a) stop regurgitating with the cut and paste shit

and

b) answer questions yourself

and

c) stop playing your silly gotcha games that are all about your adored President.

[ProSense]

27. LOL!

I don't answer questions from you until you can


a) stop regurgitating with the cut and paste shit

and

b) answer questions yourself

and

c) stop playing your silly gotcha games that are all about your adored President.

Lame attempt to deflect from your saying Leahy should retire.

[rhett o rick]

60. Why are you posting on this "politically liberal" message board? nm

[ProSense]

62. Because I more progressive than you, and evidently that annoys you.

Hope that answers your question. Better still, maybe it will upset you even more.

[Lasher]

64. I give you credit for being exactly as progressive as Obama on each and every issue.

Give credit where credit is due, I always say.

[rhett o rick]

77. Good point. The Democratic Party has shifted so far right that some think that supporting the TPP

fracking, the XL Pipeling, NSA spying, cutting SS, are liberal.

[rhett o rick]

75. How would we tell, you rarely give an opinion. And your rude emoticon

really sums it up. How very childish.

[nxylas]

80. ProSense always gives an opinion

And amazingly, it always coincides exactly with the official White House line on any given issue.

[Lasher]

63. Another one just got alerting privileges suspended for 24 hours.

The Jury voted 0-6 to LEAVE IT.

[dsc]

89. Not to hijack but say what

If a post is voted to be left 0-6 then the alerter can't alert for 24 hours?

[Lasher]

91. Yes, that is true.

The measure is intended to discourage frivolous alerting.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

67. Because ProSense holds liberal positions

And supports Democrats on a Democratic site described as "big tent" for a range of liberal and centrist Democrats.

[rhett o rick]

76. Liberal? Wow the Democrats have shifted to the right. nm

[Le Taz Hot]

86. I and others have said EXACTLY the same thing to you.

This isn't just cali, it's several of us. I know I've called you out on the endless blue-links-to-nowhere and not debating using your own words and thoughts. On the rare occasion you post something without the blue-links-to-nowhere, the post, invariably, ends up as cheerleading for the corporatists without ever addressing the issue(s). You spew dogma which certainly is NOT debate.

[bvar22]

92. Like this one?

Either Way Politics:

"I don't think Obama is going to cut Social Security.
I can't be sure, but either way he's got my vote."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021128218

[font size=3]3rd Way Centrism....because its so damned EASY!!!
You don't have to STAND for ANYTHING,
and get to insult those who DO!

[Pretzel_Warrior]

66. D)stop reminding people of actual things Cali said previously

That don't fit in with today's google news fueled rant.

[treestar]

8. So who can beat Landrieu and Manchin

In LA and WV?

[cali]

9. I don't know. I don't live there.

and perhaps no one less disgusting and corrupt can.

That doesn't make them anything but the pig shit that they are.

[treestar]

31. So you have no solutions?

Only insults for the voters of those states? Who that is better can beat them? It's disingenuous to claim you can criticize their choices but then have nothing to say about what is going to work to bring in some Senators who are not as "disgusting." If you have an opinion about another state's politics but then in the same post claim ignorance, your initial opinion is of no value either.

[Fumesucker]

39. Voters get insulted constantly on the DU

Voters who are too liberal, voters who are too conservative, no one gets away unscathed.

[TreasonousBastard]

12. That's really the point...

It's easy to point fingers, but both of them represent states that have energy as primary industries and employers. As much as we may argue democracy is corrupted by money and power, they are doing exactly what they are supposed to do.

Imagine how much worse things could be if Republicans held those seats.

[pacalo]

65. That's *exactly* the dilemma for Democrats in LA. Well said.

[treestar]

98. Money can buy ads and help influence voters

Which is unfortunate, though hard to find a way around. Obama supposedly raised more with many small contributions than the right could raise with big contributions from a few big donors, so it really could be that money matters less or is becoming less of an advantage for the right. Obama made some strides in that rather than sitting around on message boards railing against "the corporations" and "the 1%."

[tooeyeten]

21. Republicans

Who are worse?

Most likely.

[Roy Rolling]

29. Worse than Landrieu

How about Vitter?

[tooeyeten]

32. Voila

Republican!

[SidDithers]

26. Don't be injecting rational questions into a perfectly good outrage...nt

Sid

[Kermitt Gribble]

57. Efforts to unseat conservative dems (republicans with a 'D' after their name)

have been thwarted in the recent past by the Third Way-controlled Party Establishment:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3971264

So, I guess no one can beat them, since the Party does not want them to be beaten.

[Lasher]

87. Thank you for that link.

I'd missed that thought provoking reply.

[treestar]

99. Or the party just has the savvy to realize that it is a waste of money and of a seat

Why do people refuse to admit red state voters are conservative, and the only way round that is to gradually move them left? They aren't going to do so overnight.

[bvar22]

58. A Charismatic Populist, (a la Huey Long) running on a platform of

Economic Justice for Americans who Work for a Living (a la Huey Long)

...and not afraid to tell people that
"You have been getting screwed by the RICH for 30 years & I'll stop that" (a la Huey Long)

....who doesn't get Steam Rolled & Buried by the Conservative Party Establishment in the Democratic Primary (a la Bill Halter, Arkansas Democratic Primary 2010)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024586209

...and can ride a horse and shoot a gun without looking like a complete poser (a la Kerry, Dukakis)

...can WIN anywhere.

[DonCoquixote]

79. why the horse and gun

do we need that?

[bvar22]

93. The Horse & The Gun: An unfortunate reality of Life in these United States

More people in this country will vote for the Horse and The Gun
before they will listen to a detailed Foreign Policy or Plan for the Economy.

I don't LIKE the American Idol nature of our elections.
I am deeply embarrassed by it,
but it is senseless to NOT acknowledge it.
Why not make it work for us?

The media discussion of the last debates (on MSNBC no less!)
had a grading category and detailed competitive discussion on "Best One Liners of the Debate"
It is enough to make you cry.

The Republicans realized this long ago,
and have used the American Idol format to help them get conservatives elected.

[dsc]

90. If you are going to hold out Long as an example of someone who isn't corrupt

good luck on that. I am not saying he didn't do good things but he wasn't exactly the Mother Teresa of politics.

[bvar22]

104. Didn't say he wasn't corrupt,

but at LEAST he gave the Working Class and Poor in Louisiana a decent break,
and got money flowing into the hands that needed it.
That is much more than we are getting from the "Centrist" Democrats today,
who may or may not be corrupt depending on your definition.

I would like to believe it is possible to have the Populism without the corruption (a la Elizabeth Warren),
but with a Southern Accent and a toned down vocabulary.
Remember, we ARE talking about Louisiana.

I was born & raised in Louisiana.

[treestar]

100. A nice dream

By just saying those things? If that were so, somebody would have tried it by now and we'd have a Congress of Dukakis style liberals. People aren't convinced by merely hearing a liberal platform. You have to convince people that they want to contribute to making the world better for the poor, not make them feel like victims of "the 1%" etc.

[bvar22]

105. Well, one must make it beyond the conservative BIg Money Democratic Party gate keepers.

They have a habit of using National Party Money to torpedo any non-Big Business Pro-LABOR challengers in local Primaries.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024586209

[rhett o rick]

61. Do you have opinions or just questions? nm

[treestar]

101. What an ill-natured response

It is a good question, and the real way to make a start. You're evading the point that I have validly made by attempting to make it about me.

[rhett o rick]

106. A good way to start a discussion is to give your opinion instead of making

insinuations via questions.

My opinion is that we are being manipulated into voting for the best of evils. And for some the fact that they get to vote seems to be all it takes to satisfy them. We need to try to counter the influence of corporate money in our party. If we continue our current losing methods we wont be able to fight back in about ten years.

[heaven05]

10. deals with the devil

spell that corporations, banks and many 1%ers are THE fact of life in our corpo-political system. How can we prevent the corruption of money in politics when so many like landrieu are addicted to that very same filthy lucre?

[BKH70041]

14. That's because the people who helped put them in office have skin in the game.

They put their money where their mouth is. They're doing what they believe is best for the country and the Democratic Party, so good for them. You can call them whatever names you want (as if they give a damn) but they are working and doing what it takes to exert influence where a lot of others aren't.

You want the same results they get? Put some skin in the game equal or greater than they have. That requires a lot of work; something, it seems, a whole bunch of people who holds similar views to yours aren't willing to do. Until then, all those in power are hearing is a tingling little bell somewhere far off in the distance.

I will give you credit in that you call out those here who are what I refer to as the "Obama can do no wrong" crowd. They deny that's who they are, but it's more than obvious they are exactly that. It should comfort you they have no skin in the game either, and for the same reasons. But they vote Democratic every election without fail, which is good. But otherwise they are all Captain Dunsel.

Sent from my iPad

[L0oniX]

16. The homeless, unemployed and hungry agree.

Put some skin in the game equal or greater than they have

[BKH70041]

17. Good

Someone needs to be an advocate for them, because it's certainly not coming from those like you at this board.

[L0oniX]

36. Talk to yourself much?

[BKH70041]

37. Post #24 was a continuation of Post #14

I know recognizing that requires effort and can be taxing on some.

[L0oniX]

53. Speaking of "recognizing" you might want to use that little "edit post" tab...

when you want to add text to a post.

I know recognizing that requires effort and can be taxing on some.

[Fumesucker]

40. Nice troll, Adolf

You have to be smoother than that to get away with it here...

[L0oniX]

47. I hope MIRT lets us play with it for a while.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

69. Interesting choice of wording

I now have you pegged.

[dreamnightwind]

96. LOL, that was pretty funny

for a mook. Didn't know that term, had to look it up, it's in the poster's sig. I'm also a mook, at least that poster would probably think so.

I don't get how he/she thinks the poor and downtrodden have no skin in the game. Seems to me their skin is about all they have, and it's completely at risk of starvation, imprisonment, or being locked into hopeless unrewarding work for sub-poverty wages until the financial gods see fit to foreclose on their unfortunate existence.

The poor are instructed to vote Dem and stay out of it, let the wealthy make the plans for the rest of us, see you at election time. That pretty much sums up the disdain the corporate Dems and most of the party leadership have for the people they claim to represent, thanks to that poster for making it so obvious, they're usually better at hiding it.

[L0oniX]

97. DU is not sociopath free ...obviously.

[tomp]

84. skin = money= bad politics.

anyone voting for right wing dems is either brain-washed or complicit. it's that simple.

[L0oniX]

15. I don't see those that are not corprodems exposing dinos/them or calling them out.

I guess that would make them independent if they did ...and may be why we have Bernie. I only wish we had a 100 of Bernie's and some Gravel's too.

[woo me with science]

35. This is a very good point.

Sometimes complicity is silence.

[zeemike]

19. K&R...for truth.

and the truth is not always pleasant, but sometimes truth is that way....oh hell today it is mostly that way.

[On the Road]

20. Is Mary Landrieu Profiting from Her Position?

Maybe so, but it news to me. What exactly is the trough?

[cali]

22. seriously?

first of all there are very few dems in the Senate who haven't benefited from their positions and even fewer repukes.

Mary Landrieu is one of the leading recipients of Oil and Gas money. So she profits as far as campaign donations go in a big way and her positions reflect that.

Also, her personal wealth has increased since she was first elected, but my real concern is that she's exceedingly beholden to big oil and gas.

[L0oniX]

48. If Mary Landrieu was a DU member we would call her a troll.

[noiretextatique]

23. agreed...no need to try to put lipstick on those pigs

They are still pigs.

[SidDithers]

25. And today's Wheel of Outrage lands on... Other Democrats!!...

Tune in tomorrow, folks, as DUers play:

Wheel
Of
Outrage!!

Sid

[L0oniX]

41. Can Wolf Blizter play too?

[SidDithers]

55. Andy Richter kicked Wolf's ass...

and showed how smart comedians are often more knowledgeable than journalists.

Sid

[dionysus]

74. the wheel of outrage keeps a turnin, we know it'll still be here tomorrow, oooh the wheel of outrage

keeps turning...

[ProSense]

28. Did Democrats Just Put Mississippi's Senate Seat In Play?

Did Democrats Just Put Mississippi's Senate Seat In Play?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024585198

[stevenleser]

33. A Democrat who can win in a red state or red district is a rare commodity. If you...

... want to throw one of them away, or make the suggestion, in effect, that they shouldn't be supported, you really need to have a suggestion for a credible alternative.

Throwing a Landrieu away for a Vitter (rated most conservative member of the senate), because that is what you would get, or a Manchin for another Vitter like conservative is, to put it mildly, not a good trade.

[cali]

42. let me ask you: is there anything a dem could do that

would be cause for you not to support him/her?

And btw, YOU know perfectly well, I am NOT calling for "throwing" away Landrieu.

I'm calling corporate corrupt pig dems what they are.

You want to tart them up and pretend that they're good in lots of ways. go for it.

[stevenleser]

43. Attacking me will not help the problems with your logic. You need to address those before pointing

fingers.

[cali]

45. lol. classic. what "problems with logic", stephen? you neglected to point

any out. Typical attack with no substance..

[stevenleser]

46. Sure I did. You need an alternative if you want to remove a red state/district Democrat.

Otherwise, it is illogical to attack them.

Next?

[cali]

54. wow. your lack of logic is stunning

1) My op clearly states that the only reason to vote for corrupt, corporate dems is to keep dems in a majority in the Senate, ergo, it is obvious that I am not suggesting not voting for the Landrieus and Manchins. I am simply calling them what they are.

And your claim that it's illogical to attack them is even, er, less swift.

The reason to attack people who are promoting policies that harm people; the reason to attack corrupt, corporate politicians, is because corruption, corporatism and harmful policies are bad things- to state the obvious.

yawn. next?

[stevenleser]

71. LOL, you have to say that because you have nothing on this. Anyone can complain Cali.

If you expect to be taken seriously regarding the lucky situation where we manage to get a Democrat elected in a red state or red district, you better have a plan for something better.

You don't have one.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

68. You don't understand. Cali is not providing constructive recommendations

Or developing anything like a strategy for change. She's merely complaining.

[stevenleser]

70. Oh, I get it. I'm just pointing out how that doesn't work. Anyone can do that and every politician

that has ever lived has beliefs or done things I disagree with.

Anyone can complain. If you are going to complain, particularly in certain circumstances, you need solutions.

If we are lucky enough to get a Democrat elected in a red state or district and someone is going to complain, they need a better option. She clearly doesnt have one.

[L0oniX]

44. ...because a Repuke using a Dem political identity makes it all good.

...but hey ...we can use all the mindless zombie voters we can get. Party over conscience is a wonderful and trending thing these days.

[cali]

49. the thing is, that poster knows that I'm not saying we should

throw out corporate pig shit dems in a situation like LA.

What I am saying is that she is awful and the only reason to vote for "dems" like her, are to keep the Repukes from having a Senate majority.

[swilton]

34. Do we want the rest of the US

to be like LA (cough, cough)? Why is she given so much power....

The area between Houston and Lake Charles isn't called cancer alley for nothing...

[TeamPooka]

51. K&R!

[polichick]

52. Not fair to the four-legged pigs. Otherwise, true.

[Rex]

56. Anyone that puts money above all else, has no party.

They just have tools to make them more powerful. I don't trust anyone on the corporate payroll.

[blkmusclmachine]

78. Pig, meet lipstick.

Oink!

[Larry Ogg]

81. You can call a pig a democrat, but yes, it's still a pig...

Ad nauseam, the number of people who refuse to comprehend the simplest of truths.

[B Calm]

82. Free trade globalists are pigs!

[ctsnowman]

83. K & R

And seeing our party take in Republicans who ran as Republicans 2 years ago (or less!) and act like it's something to celebrate. I love to see the con party falling apart but damn that doesn't mean we should take them in. Let them go third party. Anyone who supported the cons during the Bush years are poison pills we should never swallow.

Peace.

[Lasher]

85. Joe Manchin is the best we could do.

And it's a very good thing we've managed to elect him. The only other choices we've had were Republican candidates that make Ted Cruz look like Elizabeth Warren.

Manchin is what he is. Just wait until you get a load of Shelley Moore Capito as our next Senator. She's the daughter of former Governor Arch Moore, who did jail time for his corruption. Her sister got busted for selling cocaine. It's true to say we can't pick our relatives but Shelley has always been quick to capitalize on her family name whenever she could.

Shelley is a Republican member of the House of Representatives, running for Senator Rockefeller's open seat against Democrat Natalie Tennant. Moore is heavily favored to win. I'd hoped for a teabagger challenge in the GOP primary but it looks like that's not going to happen.

Once you've had a good look at Shelley in the Senate, you'll wish we'd been able to elect another Joe Manchin instead.

[Gothmog]

102. Being a red state Democrat is tough

I love Wendy Davis but I do not like her position on open carry. It is tough to get a Democrat elected in a red state and we need to win in these states if we want to keep the Senate. Manchin is the best that we can do in West Virginia and Landrieu is going to have a hard time in Louisiana.

I voted for Maxey Scheer in the Texas primary for US Senate but I may have to vote for a conservative democrat in the run off to keep a LaRouchie off the ballot.

In Texas, we have to support people who are not as progressive as we like. The alternative is to let the GOP control both the House and the Senate. Wyden and Leahy would lose their chairmanships if the GOP get control of the Senate.

[woo me with science]

103. kick

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

107. K&R for pointing out the obvious "not as bad" pols at the trough.