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babylonsister

(171,032 posts)
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 05:11 PM Mar 2014

John McCain Wants To Push The United States Into A Full Scale War With Russia

http://www.politicususa.com/2014/03/01/john-mccain-push-united-states-full-scale-war-russia.html

John McCain Wants To Push The United States Into A Full Scale War With Russia
By: Justin Baragona
Saturday, March, 1st, 2014, 1:23 pm


On Saturday, the day after President Obama addressed the nation on the ongoing crisis in Ukraine, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) made a statement. As per his usual self, McCain made sure to undermine the President regarding his foreign policy strategy. At the same time, he pushed for the US to commit to sending troops into Ukraine and confronting Russia directly.

Below is McCain’s full statement:

“I am deeply concerned that Russia’s ongoing military intervention in Crimea may soon expand to eastern Ukraine. Yesterday, President Obama said that Russia would face ‘costs’ if it intervened militarily in Ukraine. It is now essential for the President to articulate exactly what those costs will be and to take steps urgently to impose them.

Russia’s use of force in Ukraine is unfolding in clear violation of Russia’s own commitments to respect Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, including under the 1994 Budapest Memorandum. None of us should be under any illusion about what President Putin is capable of doing in Ukraine, especially now that he has requested, and the Russian Duma has approved, the deployment of Russian troops, not just in Crimea but in the country of Ukraine.

Every moment that the United States and our allies fail to respond sends the signal to President Putin that he can be even more ambitious and aggressive in his military intervention in Ukraine. There is a range of serious options at our disposal at this time without the use of military force. I call on President Obama to rally our European and NATO allies to make clear what costs Russia will face for its aggression and to impose those consequences without further delay.”


Make no mistake about McCain’s statement that there are other options available without resorting to military force. He wants the United States to go to war and he wants it to happen yesterday. He’s been banging the war drums especially hard lately, whether it is Iran, Syria or Russia. He not only wants to push us into a full-scale war, he wants to try to make the President look like a weak leader while doing so.

However, nobody is taking McCain seriously anymore. The President isn’t going to listen to anything he says, and McCain’s sphere of influence has rapidly shrunk the past few years. Other than maybe Senators Kelly Ayotte and Lindsey Graham, nobody on Capitol Hill is really joining forces with McCain when he goes off on his hawkish tirades. While Republicans in Washington love to rip the President for every decision he makes, most also know that the American people have no appetite for another war. The recent situation with Syria made that abundantly clear.

Once again, we just see bitter, angry old man McCain taking out his frustrations with the 2008 election results every time he goes off on one of these hackneyed rip jobs on the President. He is so transparent and impossible to take as a serious foreign policy expert. He just wants to shake his fist angrily at the White House and claim that the President doesn’t know what he’s doing. He’s become the crazy uncle at Thanksgiving dinner that only reads WND and The Blaze and watches Fox News 24/7.

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John McCain Wants To Push The United States Into A Full Scale War With Russia (Original Post) babylonsister Mar 2014 OP
bomb bomb bomb... bomb bomb Russia... yuiyoshida Mar 2014 #1
The last gasp of the neocon movement? reformist2 Mar 2014 #2
Never forget Rmoney's pitch was that Russia is the US' biggest enemy malaise Mar 2014 #3
Anyone who can't see ProSense Mar 2014 #5
Thank you for that, ProSense. Are they standing with Putie Cha Mar 2014 #23
I'm glad you said that. I think he's planning to run again too. Way too much press lately monmouth3 Mar 2014 #7
he is secretly planning to lose again.. malaise Mar 2014 #8
HA! No doubt about that..n/t monmouth3 Mar 2014 #9
Erect bogeyman, wave flag, give more money to the MIC, send in the troops..or bombers. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #4
McShame\ignore TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #6
I believe he said it was conditional on supplies for the only age bracket left to fight... MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #10
Mr. President, I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed. DefenseLawyer Mar 2014 #11
he's a hawk's hawk. spanone Mar 2014 #12
mccain is sort of an enigma to me usa liberal Mar 2014 #13
Aaaaah, no. sheshe2 Mar 2014 #14
he's an enema to the nation. fuck his lust for war. spanone Mar 2014 #18
Mccain needs an enema.. stat. Cha Mar 2014 #24
Years ago... 3catwoman3 Mar 2014 #32
Funny thing about McCain. Every couple of years he says something I totally agree with. The okaawhatever Mar 2014 #28
K&R! sheshe2 Mar 2014 #15
Thank GOD McCain is not POTUS! Rex Mar 2014 #16
At his age, McCain doesn't need viagra. BlueStater Mar 2014 #17
Let us not forget McCain was in Kiev last month advocating for revolt. pa28 Mar 2014 #19
You raise a very good point, pa28... DonViejo Mar 2014 #30
Mr War Monger oldandhappy Mar 2014 #20
Yup, my watch works nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #21
But Everybody Knows The Russians Won't Fight! Wolf Frankula Mar 2014 #22
I can assure you the Russians could not defeat us right now. Not even close. nt okaawhatever Mar 2014 #29
George W Bush: We should send everything we got into the Uranium! L0oniX Mar 2014 #25
And Sarah Palin is Vice Presidential material. gulliver Mar 2014 #26
From some of the posts here on this forum, it looks like McCain can find some Purveyor Mar 2014 #27
ee card SummerSnow Mar 2014 #31

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
2. The last gasp of the neocon movement?
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 05:17 PM
Mar 2014

Of all their hare-brained plans to topple and flip governments, this one has got to be the worst-planned-out yet.

malaise

(268,686 posts)
3. Never forget Rmoney's pitch was that Russia is the US' biggest enemy
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 05:20 PM
Mar 2014

He's planning to run again and this is tres convenient.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
5. Anyone who can't see
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 05:23 PM
Mar 2014

that Putin is a RW tool isn't seeing clearly.

This is why the fawning over him during the Syrian situation was absurd.

Putin the Peacemaker
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023661265

Stand With Putin
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023654178

monmouth3

(3,871 posts)
7. I'm glad you said that. I think he's planning to run again too. Way too much press lately
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 05:47 PM
Mar 2014

to indicate otherwise. Don't know how the wifey is going to take this but I do agree, he is secretly planning to lose again..

malaise

(268,686 posts)
8. he is secretly planning to lose again..
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 06:35 PM
Mar 2014

Remember all the planned scandals for the election -the IRS. Benghazi and Obamacare flopped - they'll try with this one. This one will blow up in their faces too - but look for Rmoney and Cheney on this one tomorrow or early in the week.

Bomb bomb bomb Russia

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
4. Erect bogeyman, wave flag, give more money to the MIC, send in the troops..or bombers.
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 05:20 PM
Mar 2014

Works every time. Being surrounded on stage with generals with a lot of tinware on their chests and having lotsa flags helps.

TheKentuckian

(25,020 posts)
6. McShame\ignore
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 05:39 PM
Mar 2014

Fuckwit beyond epic scale and sadly what passes for reasonable at the Senate level from Arizona and would be an upgrade over either of mine and many around the country.

The add to this a bunch of criminal yahoos in Governor's mansions, a judiciary chock full of nuts and retrograde assholes, and a Teabagger House and you have a full on meltdown of governance in this country, close to cancer than democracy and that doesn't even account for the corporate capture.

Thankfully, even with those substantial institutional failures the sentiment is impotent yelling at clouds, even later day Russia is no Iraq, it would be bad for business globally to the point that the MIC wouldn't have the pull.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
11. Mr. President, I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed.
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 06:52 PM
Mar 2014

But I do say no more than ten to twenty million killed, tops. Uh, depending on the breaks.

usa liberal

(9 posts)
13. mccain is sort of an enigma to me
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 06:55 PM
Mar 2014

for sure he is crazy asshole on some of the foreign issues

but as far as domestic issues he is really not so bad. if you go on far right conservative websites they fucking hate him and call him a rino, his own republican party in arizona just cenzored him, so there has to be something redeemable about this guy

if the extreme wing of the current conservative party hates him so much he must be doing something right

3catwoman3

(23,944 posts)
32. Years ago...
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 09:56 PM
Mar 2014

...when my now 91 year old mom was a young nurse, she told me the doctors would order what the nurses referred to as "Triple H enemas" - high, hot, and a hell of a lot."

Sounds about right for Senator McCain.

okaawhatever

(9,457 posts)
28. Funny thing about McCain. Every couple of years he says something I totally agree with. The
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 08:42 PM
Mar 2014

rest of the time I think he's a friggin' nut job. He voted for the universal background check gun bill and defended Obama's emotional speech about Congress' failure to pass it. Then a few days later I'm sure he said something repugnant. Odd bird, that one.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
16. Thank GOD McCain is not POTUS!
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 07:44 PM
Mar 2014

We would all be glowing ashes right about now! The GOP is the Party of Death and War.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
17. At his age, McCain doesn't need viagra.
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 07:49 PM
Mar 2014

Just toss around the idea of any sort of military conflict to this clown and he'll get a full stiffy for sure.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
19. Let us not forget McCain was in Kiev last month advocating for revolt.
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 07:52 PM
Mar 2014

The overthrow of Ukraine's democratically elected government might be due, at least in part, to McCain's presence. Perhaps the opposition thought his presence indicated an official blessing of their activities by the US government.

Now he wants to send in US troops?

S.T.F.U you senile old man.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
30. You raise a very good point, pa28...
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 08:50 PM
Mar 2014

"The overthrow of Ukraine's democratically elected government might be due, at least in part, to McCain's presence"

He was over there stirring the pot. Unfortunately, so was Sen Chris Murphy.

John McCain in Kiev: 'Ukraine will make Europe better'

John McCain, the American senator, has told protesters in the Ukranian capital Kiev that their country's destiny lies with Europe - despite an EU official saying talks with the EU were 'on hold'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/10518859/John-McCain-in-Kiev-Ukraine-will-make-Europe-better.html


In Ukraine, U.S. Sens. McCain, Murphy address protesters, promise support

KIEV, Ukraine — A showdown between Russia on one side and the United States and the European Union on the other drew closer here Sunday, as two American senators told a crowd of hundreds of thousands of protesters that Ukraine’s future lies to the west, not the east.

“We are here,” said Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), “to support your just cause: the sovereign right to determine [Ukraine’s] own destiny freely and independently. And the destiny you seek lies in Europe.”

Added Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.): “Ukraine’s future stands with Europe, and the U.S. stands with Ukraine.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/in-ukraine-us-sens-mccain-murphy-address-protesters/2013/12/15/be72cffe-65b0-11e3-997b-9213b17dac97_story.html


oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
20. Mr War Monger
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 07:54 PM
Mar 2014

I am sure he will be on all the morning shows. I do not watch. So tired of McCain. But he does rouse the right and they will be after the president. I appreciate that war is not the first option in the WH play book.

Wolf Frankula

(3,598 posts)
22. But Everybody Knows The Russians Won't Fight!
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 08:20 PM
Mar 2014

They Can't Fight! They will greet us with flowers!

They will fight. They will win. The next president of the United States will be a Russian or Chinese military governor.

Wolf

gulliver

(13,168 posts)
26. And Sarah Palin is Vice Presidential material.
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 08:31 PM
Mar 2014

Imagine if a loon like McCain had become president on the heels of fellow Republican George W. Bush.

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
27. From some of the posts here on this forum, it looks like McCain can find some
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 08:37 PM
Mar 2014

supporters right here.

Can't wait to see them and theirs all decked out in military garb as they board the military transport to Kiev/Crimera.

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