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doc03

(35,300 posts)
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 07:43 PM Mar 2014

Followed the sign at the intersection "right turn after stop" , the driver behind me went

ballistic. He laid on the horn as soon as I hit the brakes, I did take about 10 seconds before turning just piss him off. I thought about getting out and telling him to read the fucking sign. I then remembered I am in Florida on vacation. That
would have given him the right to shoot me because he felt threatened.

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Followed the sign at the intersection "right turn after stop" , the driver behind me went (Original Post) doc03 Mar 2014 OP
Is it a requirement to be able to read traffic signs to get a permit to carry a weapon. Thinkingabout Mar 2014 #1
Was it a USPS vehicle? pinboy3niner Mar 2014 #2
Lol. Those evil USPS thugs Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #13
Damn socialist workers are going postal truck on us!1!! pinboy3niner Mar 2014 #17
getting out of the car in the middle of an intersection would be a public hazard usa liberal Mar 2014 #3
Can't you read either? The light was RED and there was a sign that said doc03 Mar 2014 #4
Getting out of your car after an altercation and approaching the other car could get you shot. L0oniX Mar 2014 #5
That was the point of the post, with this "stand your ground" law that is how doc03 Mar 2014 #20
Nice username! pinboy3niner Mar 2014 #7
He was driving like a normal person. Iggo Mar 2014 #8
There's a lot of road rage in Florida. Mariana Mar 2014 #6
Your right he may have been trying to provoke an altercation, who knows. I have been driving doc03 Mar 2014 #21
That's funny. Today I was on my bicycle, came to an uncrowded intersection with a red light.... Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #9
Did you come to a complete stop before you took the right turn? VScott Mar 2014 #12
It's Pittsburgh. We're adding bike lanes all over the city. Bike lanes narrow the streets a bit... Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #15
So, you broke the law, and you are offended that ..... oldhippie Mar 2014 #18
I slowed to a near stop, but I didn't remove my feet from the pedals.... Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #19
Have done all the trails in Pittsburgh, it's really a nice city. The only trouble you have to go doc03 Mar 2014 #23
Eight hour ride today. (I think it's a reaction to cabin fever).... Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #24
No ice or snow on the trail? I done the trails with a group out of Wheeling doc03 Mar 2014 #25
Two small stretches between the Waterfront and McKeesport.... Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #26
Vindictive driving is sometimes considered road rage here in Florida. flvegan Mar 2014 #10
I have been here a couple weeks so far and that is the first such problem doc03 Mar 2014 #22
The guy's wife was in labor, so he was in a very big hurry, LiberalAndProud Mar 2014 #11
I rarely encounter that particular situation. VScott Mar 2014 #14
same here DustyJoe Mar 2014 #16

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. Is it a requirement to be able to read traffic signs to get a permit to carry a weapon.
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 08:07 PM
Mar 2014

After the CHL passed in Texas I have become more cautious for you never know if the driver next to you has a stable capacity to control their trigger fingers.

usa liberal

(9 posts)
3. getting out of the car in the middle of an intersection would be a public hazard
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 08:22 PM
Mar 2014

instead of trying to piss people off by driving intentionally slow you could, you know, just drive like normal people

doc03

(35,300 posts)
4. Can't you read either? The light was RED and there was a sign that said
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 08:33 PM
Mar 2014

"right turn AFTER STOP". Didn't anymore than just start to slow down when the asshole laid on his horn. I came to a full stop
like I was supposed to and he just laid on the horn. I just made sure I came to complete stop. You know almost every intersection here
has a camera, so if you don't stop and happen to like run over a pedestrian you ass is grass.

doc03

(35,300 posts)
20. That was the point of the post, with this "stand your ground" law that is how
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 10:04 PM
Mar 2014

easy a minor traffic altercation could turn ugly. If either one of us couldn't keep our cool
it could have easily ended up in another " stand your ground " shooting.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
6. There's a lot of road rage in Florida.
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 08:44 PM
Mar 2014

I know you didn't get to see because he was behind you, but I bet he had one of those "In God We Trust" Florida license plates. I swear, whenever I see a super-aggressive crazy driver in Florida, they have one of those plates every time.

It was very good that you didn't approach him. As you probably already know, some of those loons want to shoot someone so bad that they'll intentionally try to provoke a situation in order to give them an excuse.

doc03

(35,300 posts)
21. Your right he may have been trying to provoke an altercation, who knows. I have been driving
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 10:10 PM
Mar 2014

for 50 years and never once did I ever just lay on the horn like that. All he accomplished was being held up a few more seconds. We have people like that
in Ohio too but we don't have right to kill someone if we feel threatened. Hey maybe that was old George Zimmerman behind me!

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
9. That's funny. Today I was on my bicycle, came to an uncrowded intersection with a red light....
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 08:47 PM
Mar 2014

and made a right turn - from the far right lane. The car at the intersection started beeping wildly, pointing at the red light. I stopped my bike turned around and said: "I just made a right turn on red. It's legal in Pennsylvania. What the hell is wrong with you?"

After that, seems the light couldn't turn green fast enough and for some reason he was in a great hurry.

 

VScott

(774 posts)
12. Did you come to a complete stop before you took the right turn?
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 09:10 PM
Mar 2014

I'm not saying that's a justifiable reason for the other guy to get pissed of about it, but legally (maybe depending on state law), he was correct.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
15. It's Pittsburgh. We're adding bike lanes all over the city. Bike lanes narrow the streets a bit...
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 09:19 PM
Mar 2014

(you can't pass on the right like many drivers did) and, of course, attracts lots and lots of bike riders - especially on a rare, sunny, Saturday with temps in the 40s.

Think there just might be a tad bit of driver resentment in a situation like that? My point to said driver is that riding high in an SUV only makes it seem you're a big man.

 

oldhippie

(3,249 posts)
18. So, you broke the law, and you are offended that .....
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 09:35 PM
Mar 2014

.... another driver criticized you for it? Does that pretty much sum up the situation?

Since you did not answer the question of the poster above it seems you did not stop at the red light?

Right turn on red .........
http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/pdotforms/pa_driversmanual/chapter_2.pdf

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
19. I slowed to a near stop, but I didn't remove my feet from the pedals....
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 09:50 PM
Mar 2014

I use toe clips and I've taught myself to be able to stand still a bit without dismounting.

doc03

(35,300 posts)
23. Have done all the trails in Pittsburgh, it's really a nice city. The only trouble you have to go
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 10:24 PM
Mar 2014

on some city streets to get from one trail to another. We always do our rides on Sunday to avoid the traffic.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
24. Eight hour ride today. (I think it's a reaction to cabin fever)....
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 11:14 PM
Mar 2014

Sq. Hill -> the "Jail Trail" -> Hot Metal Bridge -> Waterfront -> McKeesport double back to Sq. Hill via Homestead Gray bridge and Brownshill Rd. (behind the Wendy's you'll find a short steep, steep side street that takes you to the bike lane on Beechwood Blvd. I then went back to the "Jail Trail", through the Point, The Strip (Railroad street usually has the least traffic), long pull up Penn, though Shadyside and then home.

doc03

(35,300 posts)
25. No ice or snow on the trail? I done the trails with a group out of Wheeling
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 12:52 AM
Mar 2014

twice, We did about 30 miles each time. It was beautiful in St Pete today sunny and 70. Rode some of the Pinellas trail
and the gulf beach streets today.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
26. Two small stretches between the Waterfront and McKeesport....
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 08:20 AM
Mar 2014

70 and sunny makes a good ride. But for my money: 35 to 45 and sunny is perfect. A hoodie, a light quilted vest and the kind of gloves you find at your home center for $10 a throw. No sweat, literally.

flvegan

(64,406 posts)
10. Vindictive driving is sometimes considered road rage here in Florida.
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 08:49 PM
Mar 2014

Lucky you didn't get a ticket.

Getting out and aggressively approaching the car because he honked...unwise. Everyone should just go easy. However, if you're just looking to take shots at Florida, then I'm not sure why you're here on vacation, but...thanks!

doc03

(35,300 posts)
22. I have been here a couple weeks so far and that is the first such problem
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 10:20 PM
Mar 2014

I had. Just sayen you better think twice here before doing anything that annoys someone you could get shot and the shooter may even get off
free. I love the weather here, we are getting another 6-12 " of snow this weekend back in Ohio.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
11. The guy's wife was in labor, so he was in a very big hurry,
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 08:53 PM
Mar 2014

Either that, or your Coexist bumper sticker could have set him off.

Your fault for vacationing in Florida.

/jk

 

VScott

(774 posts)
14. I rarely encounter that particular situation.
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 09:17 PM
Mar 2014

What I do encounter fairly often is assholes who lay on the horn the millisecond the light turns green.

I normally wait at least a few seconds after the light turns green just to make sure the intersection is clear of drivers racing, trying to beat the yellow/red light.

DustyJoe

(849 posts)
16. same here
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 09:23 PM
Mar 2014

Jumping the green is a sure way to get T-boned here. The yellow light chasers punch it through the intersection.

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