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I hope Putin's decision are not coming out of a vodka bottle. (Original Post) CK_John Mar 2014 OP
More likely its a bottle of a testosterone supplement DJ13 Mar 2014 #1
Probably not... pipi_k Mar 2014 #2
Wouldn't that have been a job requirement for the KGB? Cleita Mar 2014 #8
Absolutely! pipi_k Mar 2014 #13
Or they are kindred souls in the hell they Cleita Mar 2014 #14
A job requirement for any politician. nt awoke_in_2003 Mar 2014 #28
Oh for... come on Scootaloo Mar 2014 #3
Putin doesn't drink. Kind of famously. Recursion Mar 2014 #4
You seem to know and admire quite a bit about the man Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #5
I grudgingly admire a lot about him. I could say the same thing about Netanyahu Recursion Mar 2014 #7
It's important to try to understand him. backscatter712 Mar 2014 #16
Thank you. I was particularly annoyed by the "vodka" bit... Recursion Mar 2014 #18
Agree! Putin is no idiot and he's dangerous. None should underestimate what he could RKP5637 Mar 2014 #27
Aha, what motivates him, "I coulda been a contender" nt okaawhatever Mar 2014 #10
Could be. Recursion Mar 2014 #12
It would definitely offer insight into his strategic thinking. What does he do when faced with okaawhatever Mar 2014 #25
Classy 1000words Mar 2014 #6
Similar words were said about Bush and DU laughed Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #9
It's not with many of us. n/t Cleita Mar 2014 #15
Bush is actually an alcoholic. Putin is a teetotaler Recursion Mar 2014 #19
Probably because Bush was a notorious drunk while Putin is abstinent. Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #26
Don't ever underestimate the SOB. He has the long view. nt Hekate Mar 2014 #11
Ugh...no need to stereotype. Common sense and knowledge of Russia (even a tiny amount) Rex Mar 2014 #17
Stereotypes are fun! 1000words Mar 2014 #22
Didn't we JUST have a knockout-drag out fight over chicken and watermelon? Rex Mar 2014 #23
Cool ... they get a bear? 1000words Mar 2014 #24
Putin is not an idiot. "Evil genius" is how I'd describe him. backscatter712 Mar 2014 #20
W underestimated him and Georgia paid the price Recursion Mar 2014 #21
He's a leader who will do anything for what is best for Russia 30cal Mar 2014 #29
Why would you think any such thing? TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #30

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
2. Probably not...
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 04:09 PM
Mar 2014

IMO, he's just a smug, cold-blooded bastard.

Socio/psycho path, maybe?


I can't even stand to look at him.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
8. Wouldn't that have been a job requirement for the KGB?
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 04:28 PM
Mar 2014

I'm almost missing vodka lush Boris Yeltsin.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
13. Absolutely!
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 04:55 PM
Mar 2014

I never really knew what a snake he is.

Which makes me cringe in retrospect, remembering what Dubya said about being able to "see his soul". He has no soul...

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
14. Or they are kindred souls in the hell they
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 04:59 PM
Mar 2014

came out of. When Bush said that, I knew he was evil.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
3. Oh for... come on
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 04:20 PM
Mar 2014

Do we have to go into lazy stereotype mode? There's plenty to work with here without hte "hurr hurr, Russians drink vodka" stuff. Put some effort into your criticism, man!

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
4. Putin doesn't drink. Kind of famously.
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 04:22 PM
Mar 2014

He's an obsessive-bordering-on-neurotic athlete (judo is the big one, but several other sports too). He was good enough at judo (my own favorite sport, incidentally) that he almost made the Soviet Olympic team back in the day, but his duties of oppressing dissidents got in the way.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
7. I grudgingly admire a lot about him. I could say the same thing about Netanyahu
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 04:27 PM
Mar 2014

For that matter I think the two are remarkably comparable.

I do not, however, think his tenure(s) has been good for Russia, central asia, or the world.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
16. It's important to try to understand him.
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 05:03 PM
Mar 2014

Putin is rather formidable. He's evil, and Machiavellian.

That is why we should not underestimate him by speculating that he's an idiot that drinks vodka all day. Underestimate him, and we'll get punk'd.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
18. Thank you. I was particularly annoyed by the "vodka" bit...
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 05:10 PM
Mar 2014

... because that's very much the opposite of the truth.

RKP5637

(67,088 posts)
27. Agree! Putin is no idiot and he's dangerous. None should underestimate what he could
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 05:56 PM
Mar 2014

be capable of. And, none should trivialize what his military is capable of. And, his KGB background. Just watching his body language is very revealing.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
12. Could be.
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 04:47 PM
Mar 2014

There's a cheesy line from one of the lamentable Matrix sequels, "You cannot know someone until you fight them". I've done fencing, boxing, and judo for most of my adult life and I have to say there's something to that. I'd like to spar with the guy; it might get me more insight.

okaawhatever

(9,457 posts)
25. It would definitely offer insight into his strategic thinking. What does he do when faced with
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 05:46 PM
Mar 2014

seeming defeat? Go all in, stall hoping for a better opportunity, go the cheap shot route.....
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that he's a control freak and had all this planned out. I think that is why Yanukovych stalled for so long during the Maiden protests. Well that, and their attempts to create false flag incidents to warrant a police/military intervention.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
9. Similar words were said about Bush and DU laughed
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 04:32 PM
Mar 2014

Including me (Pretzel Warrior etymology is reference to his choking on pretzels; I.e. passing out drunk).

Why is it suddenly offensive to use the same comments against another war-mongering psychopath?

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
19. Bush is actually an alcoholic. Putin is a teetotaler
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 05:11 PM
Mar 2014

There's also the kind of irritating stereotype of Russians being constantly drunk on vodka....

Democracyinkind

(4,015 posts)
26. Probably because Bush was a notorious drunk while Putin is abstinent.
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 05:48 PM
Mar 2014

This is just dealing in stale clichees, Russia, drunk, Vodka. It's moronic at best.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
17. Ugh...no need to stereotype. Common sense and knowledge of Russia (even a tiny amount)
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 05:09 PM
Mar 2014

Would make you ask why would a former KGB chief need booze to make decisions? Silly nonsense. He probably is surrounded by a cabinet of 'experts' that gives him all kinds of advice. He is a dictator with millions of minions.

Cheap shot at Russia imo.

 

1000words

(7,051 posts)
22. Stereotypes are fun!
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 05:22 PM
Mar 2014

How much of Ireland's decision-making comes from a whiskey bottle, I wonder.

And no wonder Jamaica can't seem to get it together ... they're smoking weed all the time!

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
23. Didn't we JUST have a knockout-drag out fight over chicken and watermelon?
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 05:29 PM
Mar 2014

Of course all Russians are assigned a bear to ride, 12 potatoes, 2 rolls of toilet paper and 3 bottles of vodka.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
20. Putin is not an idiot. "Evil genius" is how I'd describe him.
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 05:14 PM
Mar 2014

Don't underestimate him. He's a heaping helping of Machiavellian bastard.

30cal

(99 posts)
29. He's a leader who will do anything for what is best for Russia
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 04:00 AM
Mar 2014

He doesn't care about polls or being politically correct.

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