Hey Republicans: know what Eisenhower would have done in Ukraine?

[MannyGoldstein]

Probably the same thing that he did in 1956 when tens of thousands of Soviet troops invaded Hungary to quash an uprising, killing thousands: Ike offered some fine words of encouragement, wished the Hungarians luck, and said it would be nuts to risk a war over it by taking military action.

I think we can safely say that General Eisenhower was one of the baddest bad asses of all time (although compared to our current president he was a screaming, flaming, mind-blowing Liberal). But Ike knew when the price of war was higher than its return.

So to the Republican crazies who want to go to war with Russia: grab a side arm and go yourself. Good luck. Just don't drag us sane and decent people into your lunatic blood fantasies.

[mindwalker_i]

1. He would have tackled someone

and given them a sandwich.

[MannyGoldstein]

2. I'm thinking there's some history I don't know? nt

[mindwalker_i]

4. Mostly, I was just being randomly weird

There's not a lot behind this comment, only that the other day, by boss came by and was talking to the guy across the aisle from me. I told him later during our 1:1 that I'd been tempted to tackle him and give him a sandwich. He laughed (I love my boss).

[TwilightGardener]

3. Head-scratcher of a comment, right there.

[gtar100]

5. A perfectly reasonable thing to do.

It's what a lot of people need to come to their senses.

[mindwalker_i]

13. Do not underestimate the power of

The Sandwich. Or suffer your fodder's fate, you will.

[FairWinds]

6. Ike was OK in some respects, but . .

let us not forget that his admin overthrew democratically elected
governments in both Guatemala and Iran - and helped to organize
horrible repression afterwards. He totally knew about it.
Facts are facts.
Best not to idealize.
Support Veterans for Peace.

[joshcryer]

7. Executive Order 10450 = flaming liberal

Extreme immigration policies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback

= flaming liberal!

For privatized health care: http://books.google.com/books?id=UEGLO9YUecEC&pg=PA111&lpg=PA111

= flaming liberal!

Damn Manny, I could go on, but meh.

[MannyGoldstein]

9. 91% top tax bracket. Meh.

The wealthy paid taxes at 3 x the rate they do today. Meh.

The median worker paid taxes at half the rate they do today. Meh.

Thought people who were against Social Security or unions were "stupid". Meh.

Initiated enormous government spending programs. Meh.

[joshcryer]

11. The Interstate Highway program was a militaristic endeavor.

Eisenhower on taxes:

What I have said is, reduction of taxes is a very necessary objective of government–that if our form of economy is to endure, we must not forget private incentives and initiative and the production that comes from it. Therefore, the objective of tax reduction is an absolutely essential one, and must be attained in its proper order.

...

So, whether we are ready to face the job this minute or any other time, the fact is there must be balanced budgets before we are again on a safe and sound system in our economy. That means, to my mind, that we cannot afford to reduce taxes, reduce income, until we have in sight a program of expenditures that shows that the factors of income and of outgo will be balanced. Now that is just to my mind sheer necessity.

In other fucking words, his version of Clinton's "math, stupid." Or vice versa if you want to credit Eisenhower for that.

Doh, the beginning of the precipitous decline of unions appears to have happened under him:



Got to nail this one down. I still say FDR enabled it but he had to have triggered something.

[MannyGoldstein]

12. Ike insisted on maintaining a 92% top tax bracket. Meh.

Insisted.

Ike expanded Social Security by 10 million people. Meh.

Ike warned us about the Military-Industrial Complex. Meh.

Ike appointed Liberals to the Supreme Court. Meh.

Ike ended the Korean War. Almost instantly. Meh.

Oddly, I was once allowed to drive on those militaristic roads. That one time being my whole life. Meh.

[hollysmom]

8. as I recall, and sadly I am old enough to recall

they accepted many refugees into this country from Hungary, so there was something done.

[TBF]

10. This is awesome.

Eisenhower also expanded social security. They don't make republicans - or even many democrats - like that anymore.