'The cockpit is no place for a woman'....

[Little Star]

Female pilot shocked after male passenger objects to being flown by her in angry note
WestJet Airlines pilot Carey Steacy found the sexist note after finishing a weekend flight from Calgary to Victoria
The note, signed by a 'David' in 12 E, also addressed the airline, saying he would like to be warned when there is a female pilot so he can rebook
Steacy posted pictures of the note online and has received an outpouring of support
She says she hopes the note will inspire other women to enroll in flight schools and change the mindset that flying is just for men



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2573502/The-cockpit-no-place-woman-Outrage-male-passenger-leaves-sexist-note-aimed-female-pilot.html


Wow! Unbelievable.

[FSogol]

1. LOL: Too bad he didn't leave a name/address so they could write back:

Dear Concerned Dumb-ass Former Customer,

All of Jet Blue's pilots are female. Unfortunately thanks to the US Transportation Act of 2013, all US pilots are now female. We recommend you take a bus from now on so you can check the gender of the driver before getting on your flight bus.

Thanks, Jet Blue.

[JHB]

6. They probably do, on the passenger manifest/billing info

Though for the letter I'd probably go with thanking him for his note, relating how everyone who read it laughed very hard at the brilliant parody of a blinkered ideologue, and wondering what venue he would be performing at next.

Though some thought the bit apologizing for not being "P.C" was laying it on a bit thick and lacked realism.

[laundry_queen]

15. WestJet.

This was in Canada.
She said on the news that she was shocked people like this 'still existed'. I think a lot of people would be shocked at how MANY people still have these sexist views. Heck, even HERE feminism is regarded as a bad word by many. Hell, *I* was shocked here at DU at some of the current sentiments about women.

I bet this passenger a conservative. I hope they find out who it was so his family and neighbors can see just what an asshole he is.

[get the red out]

2. BULLSHIT

Quoting "scripture" to justify bigotry. I am so sick of these fucking theocrats. Sick to death of them. They hate everybody who isn't a white male with money. This guy needs to be hunted down and humiliated publicly for being such a Neanderthal hate-monger.

[Whisp]

3. ignorant pig.

[snooper2]

4. Oh look, another stupid religous fundie

What do people expect?

JEESUSABUS!

[JHB]

5. He's dishonest too: "(Sorry not P.C.)"

I mean, really! If he's going to be "not P.C.", he could at least embrace it.

[Rex]

7. Wow, what a total shitbag!

SO...proverbs 31 talks about women flying airplanes?! NOT!!!

[HangOnKids]

38. Thanks for that I am still laughing

[WinkyDink]

8. I'll wait for this latest hoax to be revealed.

[seabeyond]

10. and ya. i could be nothing more than that. nt

[Blue_Tires]

18. "Hoax?"

This isn't a waitress or fast food employee...I can't imagine a pilot who wants to have any future in the industry pulling this off...

[Hassin Bin Sober]

22. Furthermore, by assigning a name and a seat number, the pilot would know it could be tracked.

I doubt anybody that stupid would be able to fly a plane

[WinkyDink]

30. There are all kinds of people in the world.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

29. This story is all over the Canadian news media

and I should think CBC and the Toronto Sun would have vetted the story before publishing it. I doubt a pilot would risk her 17-year career by perpetrating a hoax for no apparent reason. Of course, that's always a possibility but this seems more credible than the nasty restaurant customer hoaxes.

[REP]

31. Same thought, but flight crew has backed this up

David was being an ass during the flight.

Still, after so many hoaxes lately ...

[seabeyond]

9. ya, we like to throw out our racism, sexism and homophobia with a shrug and sorry, not "pc"

as if not being pc makes being a racist, homophobic or sexist ok.

we hear that often.

[WolverineDG]

11. It's not a cock pit if a woman flies the plane

It's a box office.

[blueamy66]

12. LOL

[Orrex]

13. Maybe she's got her ship together.

[Adrahil]

14. Fuck. Him. NT

[Lizzie Poppet]

16. These ladies would like to have a little word with this ninny:

These women are some of the Nachthexen ("Night Witches&quot , the name the Germans gave to the Russian 588th Night Bomber Squadron, composed entirely of women. How effective were they? Well...any German fighter pilot or antiaircraft gunner who managed to down one was promised the Iron Cross.

[Lizzie Poppet]

19. And another:

Natalya Meklin. See the simple star-shaped medal at the top? That's the Hero of the Soviet Union, the Soviet equivalent to the Congressional Medal of Honor (when granted to military personnel...it was also given to civilians). But she didn't "belong in the cockpit."

[chrisa]

17. Fake and overdone.

[spanone]

20. someone needs to slap the shit out of that asshole

[okaawhatever]

21. Women flying planes??? Thanks, Obama!!! JK, Thanks to the W.A.C.s and all the other women

aviators who have given the women of today the opportunity to fly commercially.

[AgingAmerican]

23. We flew last week

The pilot was a woman. Smoothest flight we've had all year.

[peabody]

32. I know what you mean

I fly from San Jose to L.A and back just about every other month on Southwest airline. The smoothest landing I've ever experienced was on a flight piloted by a woman. I wanted to give her my compliments when we landed but she already deplaned by the time I reached the front of the aircraft. Gender is certainly no indication of how good of a pilot one can be.

[rrneck]

24. If he's that worried about it

he needs to get his back on the ground and get busy chasing a large dangerous animals with a pointed stick. And when he's done with he needs to get him and his pointed stick and raid a neighboring village or start a war or something.

[bullwinkle428]

25. Nice job outing yourself as a giant asshole, dude!

[MicaelS]

26. This man is a moron.

I'm a man and I can say that. I'd like to point this asshole toward the WASPs. Women Airforce Service Pilots

The Women Airforce Service Pilots (WASP) was a paramilitary aviation organization. The WASP's predecessors, the Women's Flying Training Detachment (WFTD) and the Women's Auxiliary Ferrying Squadron (WAFS) organized separately in September 1942. They were the pioneering organizations of civilian female pilots, employed to fly military aircraft under the direction of the United States Army Air Forces during World War II. The WFTD and WAFS were merged on August 5, 1943, to create the paramilitary WASP organization. The female pilots of the WASP ended up numbering 1,074, each freeing a male pilot for combat service and duties. They flew over 60 million miles in every type of military aircraft. The WASP was granted veteran status in 1977, and given the Congressional Gold Medal in 2009.

Some 25,000 women applied to join the WASP, but only 1,830 were accepted and took the oath. Only 1,074 of them passed the training and joined.

Thirty-eight WASP fliers lost their lives while serving during the war –- all in accidents—eleven in training and twenty-seven on active duty. Because they were not considered military under the existing guidelines, a fallen WASP was sent home at family expense without traditional military honors or note of heroism. The army would not even allow the U.S. flag to be placed on the coffin of the fallen WASP

More at link.

[CreekDog]

27. Oh I wish I could say hi to him

It's been ages since he was PPR'd.

[Warpy]

28. Yeah, because motherhood just pays so well

all women should quit their jobs and enjoy life on the pedestal.

This man is an idiot.

[lpbk2713]

33. Just let the airline know your preferences.

... and you can ride your dinosaur next time.

OMFG

[HangOnKids]

39. Second post in the thread that has me howling!

Love it.

[Liberal_in_LA]

34. lol. david is a stupid pig hiding behind religion

[Logical]

35. I wish I had been sitting by that idiot......

I would love to berate him out loud!

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

36. Obviously, he has confused "cockpit" with "codpiece".

[EX500rider]

37. "Female Pilots Sharply Reduce Helicopter Losses"

Maybe he should read this:

"U.S. Army Aviation has come to realize what automobile insurance companies have known for a long time; women are safer drivers. While ten percent of army helicopter pilots are women, only three percent of helicopter accidents occur when a woman is the pilot. This not a new or unique situation. For thousands of years it was known that women were better than men for a lot of combat support tasks, like camp management and tending the wounded. There have been numerous situations where women ended up in command (usually because of noble birth and the death of available male nobles to command) and performed exceptionally well. As firearms replaced weapons that depended more on muscle (which men still have a lot more of) women began to show up as superior for combat tasks as well. During World War II Russia found that women made better snipers. This was a task that did not depend on a lot of muscle, but did require exceptional stealth, concentration and patience. By the end of the war over 2,000 women had served as snipers and the list of the best snipers during the war was full of females. Several of the female snipers got over 300 kills. The best male snipers had over 500 kills but there were only a handful of them. Most Russian snipers did not survive the war. Only 25 percent of the female snipers did. It was much harder for a woman to become a sniper in the first place because women were not allowed in the infantry. But early on it became common knowledge that many women were good at sniping and many commanders let their female support troops know that there was always a need for effective snipers for those who wanted to try out.

The Russians had a similar experience with female pilots, although there was a lot of resistance to having women fighter pilots. But those who did get into fighter units did so because they were exceptional pilots and had no problem pulling the trigger. Like the United States, Russia used women pilots for a lot of non-combat flying jobs. But the United States never even let the women wear a uniform, the female pilots were all contractors. As such they performed a lot of difficult tasks, like flying aircraft from factory to air bases despite frequent encounters with horrendous weather. In Russia female pilots wore a uniform and were treated as military pilots."

Eventually women got into military aviation and eventually served as combat pilots. As their numbers and flight hours increased there was enough data to show trends. One result is that the army now knows what the insurance industry has known for over half a century. The military also found that women excelled at intelligence work and many administrative tasks. As more women entered these fields the average effectiveness of people in those jobs increased and the military benefitted. These are lessons commercial firms learned decades ago and once more another military “innovation” is little more than adopting ideas that have already been discovered, tried and proven in commercial organizations."

http://strategypage.com/htmw/htatrit/articles/20140303.aspx

[11 Bravo]

40. Maybe McCain can pilot his next flight. Johnny hasn't crashed an airplane for decades now.

(I'll give him a pass on the shootdown, but that doesn't explain the several other perfectly good aircraft he fucked up.)

[sibelian]

41. Good Lord.

[WillyT]

42. Wait... What... They Had Airplanes When They Wrote The Bible ???

Who knew ???