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By Travis Gettys
Wednesday, March 5, 2014 9:20 EST
An Alabama lawmaker said his Republican colleagues would change their position on abortion if their daughters were carrying black babies.
State Rep. Alvin Holmes, a Montgomery Democrat, emphatically made the comments Tuesday during a debate on a bill that would ban abortions after a fetal heartbeat was detected.
The bill passed Tuesday by a 73-29 vote but is certain to face a legal challenge.
The bills sponsor, state Rep. Mary Sue McClurkin, an Indian Springs Republican, compared the measure to the landmark Brown v. Board of Education ruling that overturned segregation.
That apparently offended Holmes, who is black, and he accused abortion opponents of racist hypocrisy.
Ninety-nine percent of the all of the white people in here are going to raise their hand that they are against abortion, Holmes said. On the other hand, 99 percent of the whites who are sitting in here now, if their daughter got pregnant by a black man, they are going to make their daughter have an abortion. They aint going to let her have the baby.
There was no audible reaction on a recording posted online by the Birmingham News, and Holmes continued.
Now listen, you know the truth sometimes hurts, he said, and repeated his claim.
Shes got two other white children, and then shes going to have a little black baby, going to be running around there in the living room, in the den with the rest of them, Holmes said. Theyre not going to let that happen. You know that and I know that. You will never admit it. You know that and I know that.
Holmes, who made news last month when he called U.S. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas an Uncle Tom, said Republicans opposed abortion to fool voters.
All this stuff about the abortion and this and that, all thats just a con game, he said. Thats for whites; it aint for blacks.
He recounted a conversation he had with a woman who opposed abortion but intended to pressure her daughter to have an abortion after she became pregnant by a black man.
I said, Youre not going to let her have that baby, Holmes recalled. She said, Oh, no. No. She thought I was crazy.
Holmes then turned to McClurkin and asked her whether she would allow her daughter to give birth to a biracial child.
The Republican lawmaker said she would, and told Holmes she would accept the baby into her family.
(I would) let it run around in my living room and enjoy it as my grandchild, McClurkin said.
Holmes, somewhat incredulously, asked if she would allow the baby to run around with them other little blond children, and McClurkin agreed.
Well, I need to commend you, then, Holmes said, chuckling. It wouldnt be one out of 100,000 to do that.
Listen to the entire exchange posted online by the Birmingham News:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/03/05/ala-democrat-to-gop-youd-favor-abortion-if-your-daughter-was-pregnant-with-black-baby/
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Full article posted with permission
malaise
(268,957 posts)I like Holmes
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)And it resulted in pregnancy did she want to punish the granddaughter further by forcing her to have the baby and the answer was "Well that's different". I explained if there was not a way to have a legal abortion then a young rape victim would be forced to have the baby. They don't think about their crazy decisions.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)Woo! That hurt!
gerogie2
(450 posts)He recounted a conversation he had with a woman who opposed abortion but intended to pressure her daughter to have an abortion after she became pregnant by a black man.
I said, Youre not going to let her have that baby, Holmes recalled. She said, Oh, no. No. She thought I was crazy.
A white southern baptist teenage girl I knew became pregnant with a Hispanic teenagers child and her "pro-life" parents practically forced her to abort the fetus.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)The last rural clinic in Texas just closed. It served a hispanic-majority community, mostly poor as well.
I don't think the fetus-worshippers care about that part. They probably expect the voter suppression laws to work that side of the equation. And of course they try to eliminate any safety net stuff so that these 'fornicators' are punished still more.