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stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 03:00 PM Mar 2014

Poll on DUer Pot Usage and the law - Do you use Pot and how would changes in law affect that usage


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I use marijuana now and would continue to use regardless of the law
10 (33%)
I don't use marijuana now but would definitely use if it became legal
2 (7%)
I don't use marijuana now but I would consider using if it became legal
4 (13%)
I don't use marijuana now and I would never consider using it regardless of legal status.
14 (47%)
Other/Not sure
0 (0%)
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Poll on DUer Pot Usage and the law - Do you use Pot and how would changes in law affect that usage (Original Post) stevenleser Mar 2014 OP
People should be careful what they post on the internet. JNelson6563 Mar 2014 #1
Good post. I echo that, so please take care if your DU handle reveals your real name and you stevenleser Mar 2014 #2
I live in Humboldt County, CA... mike_c Mar 2014 #9
Honestly, I dont think law enforcement anywhere is going to work THAT hard for a personal use bust stevenleser Mar 2014 #12
Yikes! HappyMe Mar 2014 #4
Why? You think the Feds will get a warrant based on a Poll on the DU? n-t Logical Mar 2014 #37
Warrants? We don't need no stinking warrants! Not Sure Mar 2014 #53
this is a really bad idea. cali Mar 2014 #3
LOL, Why? n-t Logical Mar 2014 #38
I'll be the first to answer "Other" Proud Public Servant Mar 2014 #5
yup .... littlewolf Mar 2014 #46
I look forward to your "would you embezzle money from work" & "do you cheat on your FSogol Mar 2014 #6
I don't want to get anyone in trouble, but I dont think personal pot usage compares to those other stevenleser Mar 2014 #13
I was about to confess to some major crimes in one of your polls and then I thought FSogol Mar 2014 #14
I agree, the feds are not going to get a warrant for a DU poll. Silly people. n-t Logical Mar 2014 #41
Did you vote in the poll? sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #51
Paranoid much? Skinner has had ONE warrant in the life of the DU for a threat. You really...... Logical Mar 2014 #40
Feds? No. Employers have been known to research/follow applicants, employees on the net. FSogol Mar 2014 #43
I've been smoking for over 30 yeras Politicalboi Mar 2014 #7
Used it pipi_k Mar 2014 #8
I voted other. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2014 #10
I use HEMP, not marijuana kentauros Mar 2014 #11
Tee shirts, rope, oil, food ... In_The_Wind Mar 2014 #18
And soap! kentauros Mar 2014 #19
Yes, canabbis here Feral Child Mar 2014 #28
it strikes me as odd how many people have raised a reasonable objection... mike_c Mar 2014 #15
It's not legal here in NYC yet, but police really don't pay attention much to users. stevenleser Mar 2014 #16
About 750,000 pot arrests a year, 90% of them for possession. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2014 #21
But under what circumstances? Were they traffic stops, were the police already looking at the person stevenleser Mar 2014 #23
I don't know who has that information, Steven. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2014 #27
And I take it you're not a young person of color in NYC? Comrade Grumpy Mar 2014 #22
Yes, person of color, and am young-ish looking, so I am told. stevenleser Mar 2014 #25
I was just called to jury panel for pot possession last month. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #45
And the circumstances were? nt stevenleser Mar 2014 #47
Possession of 4.5 ounces (DA claimed intent) ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #48
I'm not 16 Feral Child Mar 2014 #29
It is legal and I don't use it. I might someday though. denverbill Mar 2014 #17
I don't use it, but might someday, for medical purposes. winter is coming Mar 2014 #20
I've never done marijuana WatermelonRat Mar 2014 #24
Have used, do not currently, and probably wouldn't if it were legal, but support legalization Scootaloo Mar 2014 #26
Other: One, I support and have always supported it being legal, regulated, and taxed. Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #30
Interesting results. I am assuming there is polling bias for folks afraid to vote that they use pot. stevenleser Mar 2014 #31
Don't use marijuana now, but wouldn't say I'd NEVER consider using it. VScott Mar 2014 #32
Tried it, don't like it. NaturalHigh Mar 2014 #33
Why? I never tried it but wonder why you dislike it. nt Logical Mar 2014 #36
I just didn't like the buzz. NaturalHigh Mar 2014 #39
Makes sense. Some people dislike an alcohol buzz also. n-t Logical Mar 2014 #42
Other - I get stoned out of my gourd and it's legal Ohio Joe Mar 2014 #34
I don't use and couldn't due to restraints of employment, legal or not. Ikonoklast Mar 2014 #35
Same boat for me Not Sure Mar 2014 #54
I do whatever I think is right. The law is a secondary consideration. hunter Mar 2014 #44
Other. JoeyT Mar 2014 #49
Other: Pot is already legal in my state. SOteric Mar 2014 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author Th1onein Mar 2014 #52
I'm surprised so many did, frankly. 1000words Mar 2014 #56
This message was self-deleted by its author Th1onein Mar 2014 #57
Stopped using it decades ago. The only reason I'd use it again would be if I needed it Zorra Mar 2014 #55
 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
2. Good post. I echo that, so please take care if your DU handle reveals your real name and you
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 03:03 PM
Mar 2014

are intending to vote that you use or would use pot.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
12. Honestly, I dont think law enforcement anywhere is going to work THAT hard for a personal use bust
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 03:26 PM
Mar 2014

but I dont want to get any DUers in trouble either.

Proud Public Servant

(2,097 posts)
5. I'll be the first to answer "Other"
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 03:08 PM
Mar 2014

Don't use it now.

As a federal employee subject to random drug screening, wouldn't use it regardless of its legal status.

Poll me again once I retire.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
13. I don't want to get anyone in trouble, but I dont think personal pot usage compares to those other
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 03:28 PM
Mar 2014

things.

FSogol

(45,473 posts)
14. I was about to confess to some major crimes in one of your polls and then I thought
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 03:30 PM
Mar 2014

better of it.

if needed.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
40. Paranoid much? Skinner has had ONE warrant in the life of the DU for a threat. You really......
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 10:47 PM
Mar 2014

think the feds will get one for a DU poll?

FSogol

(45,473 posts)
43. Feds? No. Employers have been known to research/follow applicants, employees on the net.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 11:26 PM
Mar 2014

Not paranoid at all, just think this poll is ill-advised. 28 people seem to think it was fine so ymmv.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
7. I've been smoking for over 30 yeras
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 03:13 PM
Mar 2014

Laws don't stop me. The ONLY thing that stops me is silly drug tests for jobs that pay $8.00 an hour, and expect you to be clean while working there, but it's ok to go with other employees to a fucking bar. I say Fuck the law.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
8. Used it
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 03:13 PM
Mar 2014

years ago in my youth, didn't care for it.

Wouldn't use it now.

Don't have a problem with it becoming legalized, should that ever happen in all states.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,919 posts)
10. I voted other.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 03:18 PM
Mar 2014

I used to use it but have pretty much outgrown it. I voted yes to legalize it Washington State. There are higher priorities for law enforcement in my opinion.

We incarcerate more people in the U.S. than any other country in the world. Much is due to the so called "war on drugs."

Feral Child

(2,086 posts)
28. Yes, canabbis here
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 05:58 PM
Mar 2014
"Marijuana" is a racist tag applied during early prohibition efforts to tap into American distrust of darker complected citizens.


And to the poll: yes and yes.

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
15. it strikes me as odd how many people have raised a reasonable objection...
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 03:32 PM
Mar 2014

...about confessing to a crime in this poll. Cannabis is so much a part of the culture here on California's north coast that it's easy to forget that attitudes are not so accepting elsewhere in the country. My neighbors grow cannabis. My house has a (currently) decommissioned grow room in the attic. A couple of my former grad students who remained in the area are growers. Several of my friends trim, either for extra income or as their primary occupation. I'm talking about people in my age range, e.g. 40s-60s, not just the transient young folks passing through. In summer we routinely sit on the porch, in full view of the neighbors, and pass the bong.

Ten plus years ago my ex tried to win an argument by calling the county sheriff's deputies to the house and offering to narc on me for my cannabis stash (she was not a nice person, I'll be the first to admit). The deputies responded "Ma'am, it's Humboldt County. We're not interested in his pot." Then they left.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
16. It's not legal here in NYC yet, but police really don't pay attention much to users.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 03:35 PM
Mar 2014

It's around me constantly. Just walking the streets you smell other people smoking it. You smell it coming from many buildings.

If personal use were a priority for law enforcement there would be arrests and busts all over the place.

Again, maybe this is an unusual experience and the rest of the country outside of places like California and Colorado are stricter, but I don't think Law enforcement is going to spend the effort to link DU handles with IP addresses to bust people for personal use.

By all means, if people are concerned, don't participate in the poll, I just don't see it.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
21. About 750,000 pot arrests a year, 90% of them for possession.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 04:03 PM
Mar 2014

So, yeah, it's apparently still a big deal in some places. Not where I live in Northern California. This state has decriminalized possession, and we have medical marijuana laws that basically allow anyone to get a recommendation.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
23. But under what circumstances? Were they traffic stops, were the police already looking at the person
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 04:06 PM
Mar 2014

for something, got a warrant and in addition or instead of what their intended 'stuff' was to find, found pot and charged them with that?

I'd like to know more information.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
27. I don't know who has that information, Steven.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 04:16 PM
Mar 2014

Cops like to claim that they're not looking for pot people to bust, but then why do so many traffic stops turn into drug searches? (Having clouds of pot smoke roil out your car window when you roll it down for the officer is one thing, but I can personally attest to having been stopped repeatedly on major east-west highways heading east from California for bogus reaons and being detained against my will while the cops waited for a drug dog to arrive after I exercised my right not to consent to a search.)

Likewise, with the NYC stop-and-frisk, the ostensible reason is searching for guns, but they find those in a ridiculously small number of cases (and they know that). Instead, the rack up young people of color with baggies of pot in their pockets.

And just yesterday, I saw a prank video of guys publicly smoking a bong (with tobacco in it). The cops went after them every time.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
22. And I take it you're not a young person of color in NYC?
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 04:06 PM
Mar 2014

Because they've been arresting the hell out of them, even though it's decriminalized in New York state. It was the stop-and-frisk and "Show me what's in your pockets" and then a misdemeanor arrest for public possession and a day or so in a holding cell.

I think NYPD finally modified that practice last year.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
25. Yes, person of color, and am young-ish looking, so I am told.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 04:07 PM
Mar 2014

I have seen people stopped and frisked. I live in Harlem.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
48. Possession of 4.5 ounces (DA claimed intent)
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 12:27 AM
Mar 2014

Possession of over 4 is a felony here.

I was not selected for jury duty, but the judge does send a letter letting those not selected know how the trial turned out (which is awful because I could not sleep). I don't know the details, but an 18-year-old kid went to prison for 3-5.

Feral Child

(2,086 posts)
29. I'm not 16
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 06:02 PM
Mar 2014

and I'm white.

Not much chance of anyone bothering with me over an internet post.

It certainly wouldn't qualify for the issuance of a search warrant, 'cause I might just be trying to appear Hip.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
20. I don't use it, but might someday, for medical purposes.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 04:01 PM
Mar 2014

Doubt I'd use it recreationally, but then I'm not much of a drinker, either.

WatermelonRat

(340 posts)
24. I've never done marijuana
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 04:07 PM
Mar 2014

If it were legal, I might try it out of curiosity, but I doubt I'd ever be a regular user.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
26. Have used, do not currently, and probably wouldn't if it were legal, but support legalization
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 04:11 PM
Mar 2014

Thing is, I just don't see it as a good use of my income.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
30. Other: One, I support and have always supported it being legal, regulated, and taxed.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 06:02 PM
Mar 2014

And I fully admit I smoked the crap out of it as a youth.

I haven't smoked it in years, but I'm not philosophically opposed to it, either. Meaning, if someone passed me a joint at a Ratdog show, can I state with utter conviction that I wouldn't take a hit off it? No, I cannot.

Edited to add: A change in legal status wouldn't make much difference to my perspective on it, other than I think it would be some long-overdue sanity in the realm of public policy. I never had any problem finding and smoking it back in the day, and it was illegal then.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
31. Interesting results. I am assuming there is polling bias for folks afraid to vote that they use pot.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 09:30 PM
Mar 2014

So probably closer to 33% of DUer's partake. Maybe more.

I am considering changing my vote to "might use". I realized after thinking about it that I have pain medication that I take for a badly herniated disc at C6-C7. I have Naprosen, Cyclobenzabrine, and Percocet.

I have around 5 attacks per year. When I get one, I take the Naprosen. If that doesnt do the trick, I go to the Cyclobenzaprine. If it is really bad, I take the Percocet.

On average, I take Percocet twice a year for two to five days. This has been going on now for 15 years.

I hate taking the Cyclobenzaprine and the Percocet. If pot handled the pain and had less of a hangover than those drugs and it were legal, I would have to consider switching.

 

VScott

(774 posts)
32. Don't use marijuana now, but wouldn't say I'd NEVER consider using it.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 09:57 PM
Mar 2014

Last time I smoked pot, was back around 1980 or so.

Never really cared or understood the attraction towards it even back then.

It was like meh... boring.

Legal or not, it never stopped me then, and it wouldn't stop me now if I had a genuine interest (or medical reason), in partaking.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
39. I just didn't like the buzz.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 10:46 PM
Mar 2014

It made me feel like I was underwater or something. Just not fun.

I actually tried it for pain relief. It didn't do anything for that either.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
35. I don't use and couldn't due to restraints of employment, legal or not.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 10:42 PM
Mar 2014

But if others wish to partake, blaze on!

Not Sure

(735 posts)
54. Same boat for me
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 03:20 AM
Mar 2014

If a test that shows when it's psychoactive is used, not one that shows whether you've used it in the past weeks or months, then maybe. Right now I can drink a beer (or take Nyquil for that matter) on my day off and 24 hours later show up to work confident nothing will show up on a random test. I cannot take a puff off a joint in the same scenario with the same confidence. Until then, I'm not going to use it.

hunter

(38,310 posts)
44. I do whatever I think is right. The law is a secondary consideration.
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 12:14 AM
Mar 2014

I've no idea if pot would be an appropriate medication or recreation for me. It's been something I've avoided because of asthma. Smoke, any kind of smoke, tends to set it off.

My usual reaction to mind altering drugs of any sort is to go sleep or go running. I do know oral "brownie" cannabis is the sleepy me.

Running or sleeping must be my most basic uninhibited self.

I do know that prescribed opiates just make me feel sleepy and gross, worse than alcohol.

I've experienced other drugs too (no I.V. except in the hospital, I hate needles) and they were all sort of boring, even the hallucinogens. I can hallucinate fine without drugs, thank you. My dream world is very intense and sometimes impinges upon my waking life too. Voices in my head, strange visions, I ignore those mostly.

I take a few drugs daily to keep me functional. Sadly, they are not fun and have unpleasant side effects like anorgasmia.

But still better than the "off my meds" feral human me.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
49. Other.
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 01:51 AM
Mar 2014

I don't smoke now, and back when I did smoke, I had a very narrow window between being sleepy but not buzzed and my body deciding to see if it could break the laws of physics and make me throw up my shoes. So while I strongly support legalization, I have to say the idea of legal weed isn't particularly tempting, other than in tiny amounts as a sleep aid.

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Zorra

(27,670 posts)
55. Stopped using it decades ago. The only reason I'd use it again would be if I needed it
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 03:35 AM
Mar 2014

for medicinal purposes.

There came a point, years ago, when smoking herb got totally boring, so I stopped using it. I love being clear and healthy and high on life.



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