WTF with these (8) Senate dems voting against DOJ Nominee Debo Adegbile???

[elleng]

eight Democrats joined with Republicans to oppose Adegbile,

Initially, seven Democrats voted against confirmation and Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) -- who initially voted in favor of confirmation -- later switched his vote to no, giving him the right as Senate leader to bring up the nomination again at a later date.

Chris Coons (Del.),Bob Casey (Pa.), Mark Pryor (Ark.), Heidi Heitkamp (N.D.), Joe Manchin (W.V.), Joe Donnolly (Ind.) and John Walsh (Mont.).

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/03/05/senate-rejects-obama-appointment-of-debo-adegbile-to-top-civil-rights-post/

Are these fools unable to understand, and to convey to their constituents, how attorneys and the firms for which they work DO their/our work???

[Tx4obama]

1. Only SEVEN really. Senator Reid had to switch his vote to no in order to bring it back to the floor

... in the future - it's a procedural thing.

Reid always has to switch his vote to no if a vote is not going to pass otherwise the nomination or bill would be dead.

[elleng]

2. I understand about Reid,

he did his job, as usual, but the OTHERS???

[Cha]

3. I posted on a previous thread that they

must have bought the propaganda.

"Obama blamed “wildly unfair character attacks” on Adegbile’s failure to win nomination. “As a lawyer, Mr. Adegbile has played by the rules. And now, Washington politics have used the rules against him. The fact that his nomination was defeated solely based on his legal representation of a defendant runs contrary to a fundamental principle of our system of justice – and those who voted against his nomination denied the American people an outstanding public servant.”

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4612143

[elleng]

5. Thanks, Cha.

[villager]

27. It became a revival of the whole Mumia/Cop killer thing, by singling out that case

Ergo, in close red state elections for Blue Dog Dem Senators, faced with -- let's be honest -- stupid voters, then a Dem vote for the nominee becomes an automatic Wille Horton ad campaign in that particular race...

[warrant46]

34. Ah yes Willie Horton -- A RED HERRING if there ever was one

[msanthrope]

4. Police unions. nt

[elleng]

7. ???

[msanthrope]

10. Officer Daniel Faulkner. nt

[Gidney N Cloyd]

6. Norman Goldman explained on his show today that this is fallout from killing the filibuster.

These 7 in this case have some local pressure (in the sense of anticipating a flurry of 30 second attack ads) to vote against Adegbile but in the past they could have counted on a rethug to put a hold on it and give them cover.

[elleng]

8. So there would have been no vote?

'Much better.'

[Gidney N Cloyd]

9. Yeah. It's a bluedog thing; I wouldn't understand it.

[Lost_Count]

11. Your own article laid it out..

Several Senate Democrats joined with Republicans in voting against Debo Adegbile, whose nomination was adamantly and vocally opposed by conservatives due to his participation in an appeal filed on behalf of Mumia Abu-Jamal -- an internationally-known prisoner convicted of the 1981 murder of Philadelphia police officer Daniel Faulkner.

[MO_Moderate]

25. Yep

[WinkyDink]

12. You think PA's CASEY would have voted for a lawyer in ANY way associated with

"Mumia Abu-Jamal, who was convicted of killing Philadelphia police officer Daniel Faulkner in 1981"??

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/senate-blocks-debo-adegbile-justice-department-104297.html#ixzz2v95rwTdW

[elleng]

13. Should have, if he'd used his head and had the balls to explain

about the 'association' with Mumia.

[WinkyDink]

23. Do you live in PA?

[elleng]

24. No, MD.

[Hippo_Tron]

14. Mumia Abu-Jamal had a constitutional right to an attorney just like everyone else...

Barring people from public service because they represented people that we personally find despicable sets a horrible precedent.

[WinkyDink]

22. Wasn't my point.

[Hippo_Tron]

33. You asked if I expected Bob Casey from Pennsylvania to support this nomination, the answer is yes...

This is precisely why we don't have direct democracy. Casey's constituents happen to be dead wrong about not wanting this man to be confirmed, as are the police unions, and he absolutely should vote against their will because it's the right thing to do. If senators just voted according to public opinion every time there'd be no point in having a senate.

[Comrade Grumpy]

15. Most of them are from conservative states.

They probably think it will help them get re-elected. That's too bad.

[elleng]

16. More than too bad.

You're correct, Grumpy, but the political scene/underbelly/b.s. these days is getting me down. We won't get ANYWHERE unless/until we elect super majority dems in House, Senate, governorships and legislatures, and I don't see that happening.

Thanks.

[Tx4obama]

17. Additional article...

The Senate Decides Being A Lawyer Disqualifies You From Holding A Legal Post

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/05/obama-civil-rights-nominee_n_4907455.html

p.s Currently at the top of the front page of HuffPo in huge letters it says: THE SHAMEFUL 7
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
and below that are photos of the 'seven democrats', and it links to the article up above.

p.s.s. I predict that he will be confirmed by the end of the year.

[elleng]

18. Excellent. Thanks.

I haven't been able to open huffpo successfully for quite a while, but pleased to see this slant; its exactly correct, and a complaint I have about many people's reactions to attorneys named for various positions, including MANY complaints from DUers.

I certainly hope your prediction is correct. I feel so sorry for the crap appointees have to endure.

[davidpdx]

20. Being a lawyer should disqualify you from political office

Sorry, I just had to say it. So many of the politicians are lawyers. I really have nothing against them, just the fact that so many of them are unreasonable makes me frustrated.

[davidpdx]

19. Sad, but not surprising

From a quick glance at the article Adegbile sounds like a good nominee. I honestly can see maybe one of the budging, but not two.

[Le Taz Hot]

21. It's OK, they had a "D" next to their name

so we must trust them -- 12-dimensional chess or something.

[CreekDog]

26. who said that?

i must have missed it.

[msanthrope]

35. Seriously....who said that? Not the President, and I haven't seen a poster here who thinks this is

good news.

[DesMoinesDem]

28. The authoritarians smearing Greenwald made the same arguments right here on DU.

[elleng]

29. He's an attorney?

Firm he worked for represented someone people didn't like, and he took a marginal role in that representation?

[DesMoinesDem]

30. Yes, he's an attorney.

He represented someone people don't like.

[Blue_Tires]

31. He's a former attorney who defended that Neo-Nazi shooter in Illinois

it's a shame some smeared him for that, since there's so much better, stronger stuff out there to nail him with

[elleng]

32. Haven't followed the greenwald saga closely.

Friend of mine, many years ago, represented, via ACLU, nazi parade through chicago suburb, prevailed in court, parade went on, and suburb + Chicago survived. (So did my friend survive.)

Its our JOB, as attorneys, and people really should know this, and the demagogues should stfu. (Heard twomey demagoging earlier today.) Again:

[msanthrope]

37. Mr. Greenwald decided to defend a patent lawsuit for Matt Hale. Hardly a civil rights issue. nt

[msanthrope]

36. Mr. Greenwald chose to take a patent case for a neo-Nazi, Matt Hale. A patent case.

Now, as a criminal defense attorney, I will defend anyone who decides to take up the criminal defense of the unsavory....but for Greenwald to pretend that a patent case between neo-Nazi factions is somehow a civil rights matter is just silly.

His next case for the neo-Nazi was defending against the Center for Constitutional Rights, who were suing under anti-Klan statutes. In that case, he violated his client's privilege, forcing a settlement. So, through his own incompetence, he screwed the neo-Nazi. Again....I fail to see what this has to do with civil rights.