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RandySF

(58,768 posts)
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 11:40 PM Mar 2014

Someone tells a truth about abortion.

A Democratic lawmaker in Alabama on Tuesday claimed that Republicans who oppose abortion would be supportive of the procedure "if their daughter got pregnant by a black man," according to the Birmingham News.

State Rep. Alvin Holmes (D) made the comment in response to Rep. Mary Sue (R), who compared a bill that would ban abortions after the detection of a fetal heartbeat to the landmark Supreme Court case Brown vs. the Board of Education.

"Ninety-nine percent of the all of the white people in here are going to raise their hand that they are against abortion," Holmes said, according to the News. "On the other hand, 99 percent of the whites that are sitting in here now, if their daughter got pregnant by a black man, they are going to make their daughter have an abortion."

"They aren't let her have the baby. Listen, you know the truth sometimes hurts," he continued. "All this stuff about abortion and this and that -- that’s just a con game. That’s for whites, it ain’t for blacks."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/republicans-abortion-daughter-black-man

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Someone tells a truth about abortion. (Original Post) RandySF Mar 2014 OP
OFFS. Skip Intro Mar 2014 #1
Life began millions of years ago. The debate is not about that. REP Mar 2014 #3
I'm not sure everyone involved in the debate sees it that way. Skip Intro Mar 2014 #4
I cannot see how such a statement is in any way helpful. (nt) Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #2
That's hardly what I would call a "truth." NaturalHigh Mar 2014 #5
Anti-government ideology became popular with whites after cprise Mar 2014 #6
You might find this interesting: LumosMaxima Mar 2014 #7
Wishful thinking on his part, I think. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2014 #8
Another reason why racism stinks KentuckyWoman Mar 2014 #9

Skip Intro

(19,768 posts)
1. OFFS.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 11:55 PM
Mar 2014

99% of whites are so racist they'd change their beliefs and abort if the baby is fathered by a black man?

Or is that just 99% of whites who don't favor abortion who are racist?

Either is a preposterous and racist statement and Holmes is saying one or the other.

Is it possible this issue might be about a belief in when life begins, and not race?

REP

(21,691 posts)
3. Life began millions of years ago. The debate is not about that.
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 12:15 AM
Mar 2014

The abortion debate is over who owns a woman's body.

Skip Intro

(19,768 posts)
4. I'm not sure everyone involved in the debate sees it that way.
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 12:34 AM
Mar 2014

I believe many who are against abortion in most cases are indeed concerned for what they consider to be another living human being.

While it may be about a woman owning her body for the pro-abortion side, and about protecting what they consider unborn life for the anti-abortion side, I'm pretty sure the side that sees the issue as being about race is infinitesimal. It is really a ridiculous thing to drag race into it, maligning one racial group in the process.

cprise

(8,445 posts)
6. Anti-government ideology became popular with whites after
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 03:55 AM
Mar 2014

...a string of civil rights and welfare victories in the 60s. A lot of white people don't want to live under a government that's not exclusively for them or that makes them share across ethnic lines.

Seems exclusion from society can affect the womb, too.

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
9. Another reason why racism stinks
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 08:38 AM
Mar 2014

because Alvin Holmes really believes 99% of whites are racist.

It's not just about breeding and hammering out the racists. It's also about the actions and time required so that the Alvins don't have a reason to feel this way.

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