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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 03:50 AM Mar 2014

Rachel Maddow: CIA Spying on Congress 'is Death of the Republic Stuff'

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/03/05/rachel-maddow-cia-spying-on-congress-is-death-of-the-republic-stuff

Rachel Maddow: CIA spying on Congress ‘is death of the Republic stuff’

By Arturo Garcia
Wednesday, March 5, 2014 23:49 EST

A dispute between the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the Senate Intelligence Committee may have spilled into dangerous territory, MSNBC host Rachel Maddow said on Wednesday, following a New York Times report that agency operatives gained access to the computers being used by lawmakers to investigate the agency.

“This is kind of death of the Republic kind of stuff,” Maddow said. “The whole separation of powers thing almost pales in comparison to the seriousness of the allegation that a nation’s own spy services have been turned against its’ own government. Particularly, where that government is supposed to be overseeing the spy services.”

The Times reported that the allegations exacerbated an ongoing rift between the agency and the committee over the CIA’s now-defunct interrogation program, which included waterboarding and other techniques in secret prisons located outside the U.S. Agency officials reportedly grew concerned that committee members had gained unauthorized access to CIA documents in the course of compiling the report, which is reportedly more than 6,000 pages long and highly critical of the agency. The program was shut down by President Barack Obama not long after he took office.

McClatchy Newspapers also reported that the agency’s inspector general has asked the Justice Department to open its own criminal investigation into the matter.

Sen. Mark Udall (D-UT) hinted at the allegation in a letter to President Barack Obama, Maddow said, alluding to “unprecedented action” taken by the CIA against the committee.

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Rachel Maddow: CIA Spying on Congress 'is Death of the Republic Stuff' (Original Post) Hissyspit Mar 2014 OP
So, now the CIA is protecting us from enemy senators? Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #1
The National Security State is running the government, I hope Rachel figures that out someday. /nt jakeXT Mar 2014 #2
Yeah, she doesn't seem all that quick or sharp, mentally. merrily Mar 2014 #3
Praising the 9/11 commission report in it's comic version ? jakeXT Mar 2014 #4
I never said she was candid or anti-establishment, only merrily Mar 2014 #5
Then we are on the same page.../nt jakeXT Mar 2014 #6
I am not sure about that, but it might be merrily Mar 2014 #8
That's charmingly naive Fumesucker Mar 2014 #7
The republic ain't dead, it just smells that way. Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #13
No, no, 'e's uh,...he's resting. Ichingcarpenter Mar 2014 #16
The Republic Is Crumbling From Within cantbeserious Mar 2014 #9
Wait until we learn that some members of the Committee used the CIA buddies to spy on the President kelliekat44 Mar 2014 #10
I don't think that's how it works Ichingcarpenter Mar 2014 #17
K&R DeSwiss Mar 2014 #11
So THAT'S why she took some range time! nt Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #12
DC kinda reminds me of the lawless old west justiceischeap Mar 2014 #14
"Buried Alive", is what the old republic is. nt bemildred Mar 2014 #15
Kick nt Hissyspit Mar 2014 #18

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
16. No, no, 'e's uh,...he's resting.
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 09:36 AM
Mar 2014

No no he's not dead, he's, he's restin'! Remarkable bird, the American republic, idn'it, ay? Beautiful plumage!

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
10. Wait until we learn that some members of the Committee used the CIA buddies to spy on the President
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 06:51 AM
Mar 2014

Wait for that shoe to drop.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
17. I don't think that's how it works
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 09:41 AM
Mar 2014
ORIGINAL NSA WHISTLEBLOWER: I Saw The Order To Wiretap Barack Obama In 2004

Russ Tice worked as an offensive National Security Agency (NSA) analyst from 2002 to 2005, before becoming a source for this Pulitzer Prize-winning New York Times article exposing NSA domestic spying.
This week he appeared on the Boiling Frogs Show and detailed how he had his hands "in the nitty-gritty, the nuts and bolts" during his 20 years as a U.S. intelligence analyst.

Tice claimed that he held NSA wiretap orders targeting numerous members of the U.S. government, including one for a young senator from Illinois named Barack Obama.

"In the summer of 2004, one of the papers that I held in my hand was to wiretap a bunch of numbers associated with a forty-some-year-old senator from Illinois. You wouldn't happen to know where that guy lives now would you? It's a big White House in Washington D.C. That's who the NSA went after. That's the President of the United States now."

Tice added that he also saw orders to spy on Hillary Clinton, Senators John McCain and Diane Feinstein, then-Secretary of State Colin Powell, Gen. David Petraeus, and a current Supreme Court Justice.

That sounds like a lot of abuse of the rules that govern NSA domestic spying. And that's exactly what Tice is claiming.



Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-nsa-spied-on-barack-obama-2004-russ-tice-2013-6#ixzz2vBpZ4dlq
 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
11. K&R
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 06:54 AM
Mar 2014
''The very word 'secrecy' is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths, and to secret proceedings.'' ~John F. Kennedy


justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
14. DC kinda reminds me of the lawless old west
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 07:56 AM
Mar 2014

people running around doing whatever they want with impunity and no consequences for their actions. Of course, this sort of thing is going to happen when you start chopping away at the Constitution and allow things like the Patriot Act to be put in place.

Well, into DC I go to earn my keep.

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