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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRachel Maddow: CIA Spying on Congress 'is Death of the Republic Stuff'
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/03/05/rachel-maddow-cia-spying-on-congress-is-death-of-the-republic-stuffRachel Maddow: CIA spying on Congress is death of the Republic stuff
By Arturo Garcia
Wednesday, March 5, 2014 23:49 EST
A dispute between the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the Senate Intelligence Committee may have spilled into dangerous territory, MSNBC host Rachel Maddow said on Wednesday, following a New York Times report that agency operatives gained access to the computers being used by lawmakers to investigate the agency.
This is kind of death of the Republic kind of stuff, Maddow said. The whole separation of powers thing almost pales in comparison to the seriousness of the allegation that a nations own spy services have been turned against its own government. Particularly, where that government is supposed to be overseeing the spy services.
The Times reported that the allegations exacerbated an ongoing rift between the agency and the committee over the CIAs now-defunct interrogation program, which included waterboarding and other techniques in secret prisons located outside the U.S. Agency officials reportedly grew concerned that committee members had gained unauthorized access to CIA documents in the course of compiling the report, which is reportedly more than 6,000 pages long and highly critical of the agency. The program was shut down by President Barack Obama not long after he took office.
McClatchy Newspapers also reported that the agencys inspector general has asked the Justice Department to open its own criminal investigation into the matter.
Sen. Mark Udall (D-UT) hinted at the allegation in a letter to President Barack Obama, Maddow said, alluding to unprecedented action taken by the CIA against the committee.
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Rachel Maddow: CIA Spying on Congress 'is Death of the Republic Stuff' (Original Post)
Hissyspit
Mar 2014
OP
The National Security State is running the government, I hope Rachel figures that out someday. /nt
jakeXT
Mar 2014
#2
Wait until we learn that some members of the Committee used the CIA buddies to spy on the President
kelliekat44
Mar 2014
#10
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)1. So, now the CIA is protecting us from enemy senators?
jakeXT
(10,575 posts)2. The National Security State is running the government, I hope Rachel figures that out someday. /nt
merrily
(45,251 posts)3. Yeah, she doesn't seem all that quick or sharp, mentally.
jakeXT
(10,575 posts)4. Praising the 9/11 commission report in it's comic version ?
merrily
(45,251 posts)5. I never said she was candid or anti-establishment, only
that she's very smart.
jakeXT
(10,575 posts)6. Then we are on the same page.../nt
merrily
(45,251 posts)8. I am not sure about that, but it might be
close enough for government work.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)7. That's charmingly naive
The Republic has been dead for quite some time now.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)13. The republic ain't dead, it just smells that way.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)16. No, no, 'e's uh,...he's resting.
No no he's not dead, he's, he's restin'! Remarkable bird, the American republic, idn'it, ay? Beautiful plumage!
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)9. The Republic Is Crumbling From Within
eom
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)10. Wait until we learn that some members of the Committee used the CIA buddies to spy on the President
Wait for that shoe to drop.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)17. I don't think that's how it works
ORIGINAL NSA WHISTLEBLOWER: I Saw The Order To Wiretap Barack Obama In 2004
Russ Tice worked as an offensive National Security Agency (NSA) analyst from 2002 to 2005, before becoming a source for this Pulitzer Prize-winning New York Times article exposing NSA domestic spying.
This week he appeared on the Boiling Frogs Show and detailed how he had his hands "in the nitty-gritty, the nuts and bolts" during his 20 years as a U.S. intelligence analyst.
Tice claimed that he held NSA wiretap orders targeting numerous members of the U.S. government, including one for a young senator from Illinois named Barack Obama.
"In the summer of 2004, one of the papers that I held in my hand was to wiretap a bunch of numbers associated with a forty-some-year-old senator from Illinois. You wouldn't happen to know where that guy lives now would you? It's a big White House in Washington D.C. That's who the NSA went after. That's the President of the United States now."
Tice added that he also saw orders to spy on Hillary Clinton, Senators John McCain and Diane Feinstein, then-Secretary of State Colin Powell, Gen. David Petraeus, and a current Supreme Court Justice.
That sounds like a lot of abuse of the rules that govern NSA domestic spying. And that's exactly what Tice is claiming.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-nsa-spied-on-barack-obama-2004-russ-tice-2013-6#ixzz2vBpZ4dlq
Russ Tice worked as an offensive National Security Agency (NSA) analyst from 2002 to 2005, before becoming a source for this Pulitzer Prize-winning New York Times article exposing NSA domestic spying.
This week he appeared on the Boiling Frogs Show and detailed how he had his hands "in the nitty-gritty, the nuts and bolts" during his 20 years as a U.S. intelligence analyst.
Tice claimed that he held NSA wiretap orders targeting numerous members of the U.S. government, including one for a young senator from Illinois named Barack Obama.
"In the summer of 2004, one of the papers that I held in my hand was to wiretap a bunch of numbers associated with a forty-some-year-old senator from Illinois. You wouldn't happen to know where that guy lives now would you? It's a big White House in Washington D.C. That's who the NSA went after. That's the President of the United States now."
Tice added that he also saw orders to spy on Hillary Clinton, Senators John McCain and Diane Feinstein, then-Secretary of State Colin Powell, Gen. David Petraeus, and a current Supreme Court Justice.
That sounds like a lot of abuse of the rules that govern NSA domestic spying. And that's exactly what Tice is claiming.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-nsa-spied-on-barack-obama-2004-russ-tice-2013-6#ixzz2vBpZ4dlq
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)11. K&R
''The very word 'secrecy' is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths, and to secret proceedings.'' ~John F. Kennedy
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)12. So THAT'S why she took some range time! nt
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)14. DC kinda reminds me of the lawless old west
people running around doing whatever they want with impunity and no consequences for their actions. Of course, this sort of thing is going to happen when you start chopping away at the Constitution and allow things like the Patriot Act to be put in place.
Well, into DC I go to earn my keep.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)15. "Buried Alive", is what the old republic is. nt
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)18. Kick nt