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madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
Mon Mar 10, 2014, 01:24 AM Mar 2014

Rural FL town writes $600,000 in traffic tickets. Can't account for money. 1 cop for 25 citizens

Be sure to watch the video. There are many more outrages in the video that are not in the story. One of the officers would get out of his car on a traffic stop with an AR15 strapped on his shoulder and wearing tactical gear.

From CNN

Speed trap city accused of corruption, threatened with extinction

Hampton, Florida (CNN) -- How off-the-charts corrupt do you have to be to capture somebody's attention in the Sunshine State?

You can lay claim to a 1,260-foot stretch of busy highway a mile outside of town and set up one of the nation's most notorious speed traps. You can use the ticket money to build up a mighty police force -- an officer for every 25 people in town -- and, residents say, let drugs run rampant while your cops sit out by the highway on lawn chairs, pointing radar guns at everybody who passes by.

..."It became 'serve and collect' instead of 'serve and protect.' Cash register justice," said Sheriff Gordon Smith. "Do y'all remember the old 'Dukes of Hazzard'? Boss Hogg? They make Boss Hogg look like a Sunday school teacher."

...Hampton cops were a fixture out on U.S. 301. They sat on lawn chairs, pointing radar guns at unsuspecting motorists. They hid behind recycling bins. As more and more money came in, they idled in slick SUVs, trolled the median strips in riot gear and toted state-of-the-art firepower. Locals gave one the nickname "Rambo" because he slung an AR-15 rifle across his chest.


More from The Gawker

Welcome to Hampton, the Most Corrupt Little Town in Florida

A little landlocked city in Florida is so outrageously corrupt that state officials are trying to abolish it.

And critics say the small town exists solely so that its police force can control a 1,260-foot stretch of highway that they've turned into a speed trap, reaping hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines.

According to the audit, the city racked up around two dozen violations, including:

Failure to track where the ticketing revenue went.
Lax controls and terrible record-keeping led to one clerk getting overpaid nearly $9,000.
Misuse of city credit cards: city employees charged more than $27,000 "with no public purpose" and racked up a $132,000 bill at a convenience store next to City Hall.
Failure to keep records of assigned vehicles for employees.
Uninsured city police cars.
City officials admitted other records were "lost in a swamp."
A crumbling water infrastructure, with nearly half the water supply lost.

"It's like something out of a Southern Gothic novel," state senator Rob Bradley, whose district includes Hampton, told Time.
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Rural FL town writes $600,000 in traffic tickets. Can't account for money. 1 cop for 25 citizens (Original Post) madfloridian Mar 2014 OP
Wow...they aren't even pretending to be legit for even a second Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #1
Wonder what teacher to student ratio is. n/t BadgerKid Mar 2014 #2
Seems to be one school there. Others around in Starke and Waldo. madfloridian Mar 2014 #4
Reminds me of Patton Village's speed trap along US Highway 59 S_B_Jackson Mar 2014 #3
..... madfloridian Mar 2014 #5
One of the famous ones around here for sure Lurker Deluxe Mar 2014 #17
Do you know if there is a link to the audio anywhere? I would LOVE to hear it! I just read where the Ghost in the Machine Mar 2014 #26
I doubt it..... S_B_Jackson Mar 2014 #27
Thank you, S_B_Jackson... Ghost in the Machine Mar 2014 #30
They need more Buford T. Justice and less Boss Hogg ? jakeXT Mar 2014 #6
I got a ticket there in about 2009. boston bean Mar 2014 #7
anyone traveling mercuryblues Mar 2014 #8
Now that you mention it, I got my ticket in Lawtey. boston bean Mar 2014 #9
I think it mercuryblues Mar 2014 #11
I've lived in Florida for 18 years cpwm17 Mar 2014 #21
Yeah, Lawtey has been a speed trap since flathead V-8s. Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #16
Google: picture billboard Lawtey. Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #18
Ha...warning speed trap ahead. madfloridian Mar 2014 #19
Did you notice the mileage intervals? Worse than Stuckeys'. Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #20
I noticed. madfloridian Mar 2014 #22
When I visit family in Fla, I'm in the lookout for boiled peanuts! Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #23
Ever see a Red Elephant Pizza place? Can get a bucket of boiled peanuts. madfloridian Mar 2014 #24
Last yr in Gainesville, I got some in front of a Winn-Dixie... Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #25
It's the only route teenagebambam Mar 2014 #10
Exact same speed trap setup JimDandy Mar 2014 #12
And Emporia, Va on Route 58 Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #14
That is pretty blatant alright. n/t JimDandy Mar 2014 #15
Were the flat fees more expensive when you took into account the increase in your bluestate10 Mar 2014 #28
Fuck 'em...I paid the fine myself just out of principle Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #29
Recommend jsr Mar 2014 #13
I drove to Sanibel a year ago from NC mnhtnbb Mar 2014 #31

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
4. Seems to be one school there. Others around in Starke and Waldo.
Mon Mar 10, 2014, 01:53 AM
Mar 2014
http://www.greatschools.org/florida/hampton/110-Hampton-Elementary-School/

Probably part of a county district like schools in our area are. One thing I noticed..the one school is 90% white. Just saying. Interesting.

S_B_Jackson

(906 posts)
3. Reminds me of Patton Village's speed trap along US Highway 59
Mon Mar 10, 2014, 01:43 AM
Mar 2014

at one point they were writing over 1,000 tickets a month to non-residents. A local radio station KLOL 101FM ran one of their remote transmitter vans through the speedtrap, got stopped, and broadcast the whole shakedown live on-air. lol.

About 3/4ths of the way through the stop, the cop finally wondered what the guys in the back of the van were doing....man was he pissed when they told that the whol damned city of Houston had listened to the stop...

Lurker Deluxe

(1,036 posts)
17. One of the famous ones around here for sure
Mon Mar 10, 2014, 12:01 PM
Mar 2014

One of the others is coming into Magnolia on 1774 where the speed limit changes 3-4 times in a 3 mile stretch. The cops will sit on the change and get people coming and going.

Ghost in the Machine

(14,912 posts)
26. Do you know if there is a link to the audio anywhere? I would LOVE to hear it! I just read where the
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 04:07 AM
Mar 2014

Mayor, City Clerk, a Councilman, 3 active duty cops and (iirc) 4 former cops were arrested and charged with a multitude of crimes. Somme of the former cops were even charged with crimes in other towns they had worked in!

Peace,

Ghost

S_B_Jackson

(906 posts)
27. I doubt it.....
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 10:18 PM
Mar 2014

happened in the early 1980s when they were and AOR (album oriented rock) station. The station changed ownership a couple times in the 90s, ultimately acquired (and ruined) by Clear Channel...who in early 2000s changed to Spanish language and of course, pre-digital which means it was on tape somewhere........

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
7. I got a ticket there in about 2009.
Mon Mar 10, 2014, 08:48 AM
Mar 2014

Hundreds of dollars. Said I was going 45 in a 20-25. A two lane highway.

The fuckers!

mercuryblues

(14,531 posts)
8. anyone traveling
Mon Mar 10, 2014, 08:55 AM
Mar 2014

that stretch of highway be warned. Hampton, Stark, Lawtey etc. they will ticket you, even for 4 MPH over the limit. When I drive through there, I usually go 5 MPH under the limit, to give myself some cushion. The problem is that the speed limit changes so much it is crazy. It can change 4 or 5 times in a 1 mile stretch.

I am willing to bet that if they audited all the towns along that route they would find similar problems.

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
9. Now that you mention it, I got my ticket in Lawtey.
Mon Mar 10, 2014, 08:58 AM
Mar 2014

a two lane highway, where the speed limit goes from 20-25-40-45 in a matter of feet going back and forth between limits.

I was going to Tampa that year. I'm like, I guess the state of Florida doesn't want out of state people traveling in their state.

mercuryblues

(14,531 posts)
11. I think it
Mon Mar 10, 2014, 09:14 AM
Mar 2014

is more like, if you don't live there you get a ticket. My FIL got his ticket in Lawtey for 3 miles over, he lives in the Ft. Myers area. Driving through there is when I regret trading in my Charger. Cops would wave to me like I was one of them. What I drive now is a ticket magnet.

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
21. I've lived in Florida for 18 years
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 12:02 AM
Mar 2014

I've never been pulled over by any cop.

I've been on I-40 in eastern Oklahoma four times. I got pulled over three times, the last time allegedly for having a frame around my license plate. They were looking for drugs due to my Florida plates, I'm sure.

I've lost track how many times I've been pulled over in Texas in my travels through that state. It has to be at least ten times. I expect to get pulled over on I-10 in west Texas whenever I travel to my family in San Diego.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
16. Yeah, Lawtey has been a speed trap since flathead V-8s.
Mon Mar 10, 2014, 11:54 AM
Mar 2014

Even if you are aware, you get 'em. There is a large billboard which warns you when you approach this Twilight Zone along U.S. 301. I beat the one I got in 1974! After contesting it from Texas!

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
22. I noticed.
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 12:15 AM
Mar 2014

The kids used to entertain themselves with the Stuckey signs, keeping up with the distance. Also when I was younger the Burma Shave signs...

http://www.fiftiesweb.com/burma1.htm

1963 was the last year for them. So much fun.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
23. When I visit family in Fla, I'm in the lookout for boiled peanuts!
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 01:05 AM
Mar 2014

Elixer of the gods, but unavailable in Texas. No one harvests peanuts out here which are green and pliable. So I suffer!

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
24. Ever see a Red Elephant Pizza place? Can get a bucket of boiled peanuts.
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 01:18 AM
Mar 2014

They are good, too. Roadside stands and mom and pop restaurants used to sell them....but haven't seen any for ages except Red Elephant.

http://www.redelephantpizza.com/chooselocations.php

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
25. Last yr in Gainesville, I got some in front of a Winn-Dixie...
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 01:36 AM
Mar 2014

"traditional" place of sales by black purveyors since the late 50s. Also on U.S. 301, 441, Waldo Flea Market, and state hwys in N. Central Fla. But, I can still get green nuts in Publix, and just do 'em myself!

teenagebambam

(1,592 posts)
10. It's the only route
Mon Mar 10, 2014, 09:09 AM
Mar 2014

To get to and from UF from the northeast corner of the state. They nab lots of college kids and visiting parents, I'm sure.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
12. Exact same speed trap setup
Mon Mar 10, 2014, 11:30 AM
Mar 2014

(45 40 20 25 mph) outside tiny Colfax WA to catch Washington State U. students and parents going to Pullman WA. Police and muni court there don't even try to hide it or deny it.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
14. And Emporia, Va on Route 58
Mon Mar 10, 2014, 11:42 AM
Mar 2014

I got careless and let them nail me the last time I went through...

You know it's a racket when you get no fewer than TWENTY unsolicited letters from law firms in town offering to "settle" the ticket for a fee (because they know damn well nobody in hell is driving an hour or two or more back to Emporia to appear in traffic court)...Naturally, ALL of the settlement fees offered were flat rates which were more expensive than me just paying the fine outright....

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
28. Were the flat fees more expensive when you took into account the increase in your
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 10:45 PM
Mar 2014

auto insurance premium?

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
29. Fuck 'em...I paid the fine myself just out of principle
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 12:17 AM
Mar 2014

There's no guarantee that the premium wouldn't still go up after the attorneys took my $$$

(if it did go up, it wasn't by a noticeable amount)...I'm a very clean driver and can count on one hand the number of times I've been stopped for speeding -- and one of those speeding tickets was a DWB)

mnhtnbb

(31,384 posts)
31. I drove to Sanibel a year ago from NC
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 06:11 AM
Mar 2014

down 95 to Jacksonville, FL and then across the center of Florida on Highway 301--through Lawtey--to 75 south . So I saw the speed
trap signs! I paid close attention--and got through there (and back) without a ticket.

I couldn't believe some of rural Florida. Talk about right wing billboards! But that drive on 301 was the most pleasant, relaxed,
scenic part of the entire trip. It was much different than driving 95 and 75.

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