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Even Sen. Dianne Feinstein has lost faith in Americas intelligence community.
By John Dickerson
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The saga starts in 2006, when members of the intelligence committee were first briefed about a CIA interrogation program that had been in place since 2002. This briefing initiated an investigation by Senate staffers who by 2009 offered a preliminary report on the program that Feinstein described as chilling and far different and harsher than the way the CIA had described it in the past.
The first level of oversight had failed massively. The findings from the first review initiated another one by the committeea second attempt at oversightwhich the CIA fought at every turn, according to Feinstein. They dumped an un-indexed 6.2 million documents on the Senate committee and requested that each document go through a multilevel review process before handing it over, making the investigation tedious and protracted.
As investigators waded though the documents, some of the information that had been initially provided by the CIA started to disappear from the computer network. When asked about the unauthorized removal, the CIA blamed contractors, and then said the order had come from the White House. In 2010, Feinstein had to get the White House counsel to resolve the matter and order the CIA to return the missing documents, which it did.
Not long after, documents started going missing again. This batch of ghost papers would come to be known as the Panetta review, referring to Leon Panetta, the former CIA director. They represented an internal summary of what had been provided to the intelligence committee. What was unique and interesting about the internal documents was not their classification level, but rather their analysis and acknowledgment of significant CIA wrongdoing, said Feinstein.
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http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2014/03/dianne_feinstein_the_cia_and_cover_up_the_california_senator_accuses_the.single.html
By Wesley Lowery and Ed O'Keefe
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Democrats, including some on the committee who frequently raise concerns with intelligence matters, praised Feinstein for speaking out. During their weekly caucus luncheon, she received two standing ovations. First, when Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) mentioned her speech and again when she urged her colleagues to read her remarks, according to a senior aide familiar with the meeting but not authorized to speak publicly about it.
Sen. Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.), the chamber's longest-serving Democrat, told reporters that "in 40 years here, it was one of the best speeches Id ever heard and one of the most important."
Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) said that her speech "goes precisely to the question of whether the Congress can do effective oversight over the modern intelligence apparatus." He noted that at the recent annual public hearing on worldwide threats, he asked whether federal laws barring snooping on computers applied to the CIA. He said that the agency has replied in writing that such laws do apply to agency officials.
Sen. Mark Udall (D-Colo.), another outspoken member of the panel, said Feinstein's concerns bolster his own attempts to get answers about the CIA's interrogation program. "Unfortunately, the CIA responded by trying to hide the truth from the American people about this program and undermine the Senate Intelligence Committee's oversight role by illegally searching committee computers," he said in a statement. "The U.S. Constitution is clear and Coloradans agree: The separation of powers and aggressive oversight are fundamental to our democracy, and Coloradans can count on me to continue to protect these foundational pillars no matter who is in the White House."
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/03/11/senators-rally-around-feinstein-demand-answers-from-cia/?tid=hpModule_f8335a3c-868c-11e2-9d71-f0feafdd1394
ACLU: Sen. Feinstein Accuses CIA of Attempting to Undermine Torture Investigation
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024647827
ProSense
(116,464 posts)Cha
(296,859 posts)wilsonbooks
(972 posts)This story has a simple message: The system that is supposed to maintain the balance between secrets and civil liberties has broken down. Many believed that it already had, but Feinstein, for good reason, had argued that even if changes needed to be made, the essential relationship between her committee and the agencies it oversees was operating within bounds. What she described Tuesday was a total lack of trust on both sides. The level of trust was so low that people may have felt it was necessary to break the law to fulfill their obligations. Thats not just bad for this particular relationship; it throws the balance between the two branches into even greater turmoil than it wa
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)History 101.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)...so what the hell did they expect? Now lie in it, Dianne. It's all yours.
- So one definition of insanity is when you keep doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result, right? Well we've done this before too:
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)and HIV as well back about 40 - 50 years ago. NSA - it goes way deeper.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)nikto
(3,284 posts)Nice idea, but it's...
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)30 years ago the then head of the senate committee had the same sort of problems with the CIA.
Back then the republicans were kinda sorta maybe a little on the side of getting the Truth out. I wonder what they are thinking now? Probably wishing Rmoney had won and they wouldn't have to worry.
How does Obama get them to stand up for the people and against the CIA. Bet the midnight oil is burning on this matter.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)This is NOT Snowden's fault.
Snowden had nothing to do with this exposure of CIA finagling.
So don't even try to give Snowden credit.
The CIA did this all on their own, independent of the NSA.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)Thanks for the thread ProSense.
No one had better even suggest this was a conspiracy.
Conspiracies just don't happen, and if they do they go in the "Dungeon."
Can you imagine a PS post getting sent to the dungeon? So, just forget you ever thought this was a conspiracy of any kind. K?
ProSense
(116,464 posts)There are several reasons why the draft summary of the Panetta Review was brought to our secure spaces at the Hart Building.
Let me list them:
The significance of the Internal Review given disparities between it and the June 2013 CIA response to the committee study. The Internal Panetta Review summary now at the secure committee office in the Hart Building is an especially significant document as it corroborates critical information in the committees 6,300-page Study that the CIAs official response either objects to, denies, minimizes, or ignores.
Unlike the official response, these Panetta Review documents were in agreement with the committees findings. Thats what makes them so significant and important to protect.
When the Internal Panetta Review documents disappeared from the committees computer system, this suggested once again that the CIA had removed documents already provided to the committee, in violation of CIA agreements and White House assurances that the CIA would cease such activities.
As I have detailed, the CIA has previously withheld and destroyed information about its Detention and Interrogation Program, including its decision in 2005 to destroy interrogation videotapes over the objections of the Bush White House and the Director of National Intelligence. Based on the information described above, there was a need to preserve and protect the Internal Panetta Review in the committees own secure spaces.
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http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=db84e844-01bb-4eb6-b318-31486374a895