So while many folks here are arguing about Hillary/Bernie/Warren 2016....

[Cali_Democrat]

GOPers just scooped up an important district in the swing state of Florida...

...with Koch money of course.

Republicans WANT you distracted. They would love nothing more.

Don't take the bait.

[1StrongBlackMan]

1. +1 eom.

[Jackpine Radical]

2. That's bizarre--

2016 Presidential debates on DU somehow cost Sink the election?

I think sunspots would be a better theory.

[DonViejo]

15. The absence of 20,000 voters is what cost the election....

I should admit that smart analysts predicted the result with one number. Two-hundred thousand. If that many ballots showed up in FL-13, Democrats were hitting their turnout models and winning the race. If fewer, they were losing. There were about 180,000 votes cast in the race, and the Democrats lost.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251357013

Unfortunately, those 20,000 voters were all on DU arguing about the 2016 Presidential race.

[Jackpine Radical]

30. Hah! Exactly.

"Unfortunately, those 20,000 voters were all on DU arguing about the 2016 Presidential race.

[DonCoquixote]

35. and

more importantly, Hillary's pacs have been down here raising money, i.e. sopping up money we could have used to get Sink in.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

16. Will we next run Sink against someone named "Swim"?

[Laelth]

3. I heard that we outspent them 3-1.

Let us first be honest. Then we can respond appropriately.

-Laelth

[treestar]

12. Which kind of counters the oft seen assertion here

that money alone is all that is needed to win, thus the corporations buying the elections, so it's all hopeless. Another theme meant to get people hopeless and divided.

[okaawhatever]

23. That's not correct. It was early on, but the GOP groups came through at the end. In disclosed

spending Sink may still show a slight advantage but there was big money from outside groups, dark money ad SuperPacs.

From WaPo:

GOP groups rallied to Jolly's side, spending some $5 million in an effort to narrow the financial gap, compared to about $3.75 million from Democratic organizations.

[cali]

4. in a sea of ridiculous posts, you still manage to take the prize..

[Cali_Democrat]

6. Thanks

[MineralMan]

5. Yes. This can't be repeated too often.

GOTV 2014!

[Cali_Democrat]

9. Indeed. nt

[snooper2]

7. Warren isn't running, she said so...

People should take their images down, it's just going to leave a spot on the paint

[Wilms]

8. The Third Way wants us distracted.

And you're helping them.

[treestar]

10. Their obsession with the Presidency continues

In spite of the proof in front of their faces. Just get the right messiah for President and the rest follows! They will not quit thinking about it like that. Or, they know keeping it up is divisive and that's the goal.

[Fumesucker]

20. The ones "obsessed" with the presidency are putting up and reccing photo threads of Obama..

And the ones who defend every single thing a certain POTUS does..

[Scootaloo]

29. What are you, some sort of Putin-lover? Why do you hate America?

You want the terrorists to win, don'cha? That'd make your lord and master Edward Snowden happy, for sure!

[treestar]

36. No, it's as I described in my post above

I meant what I said, kindly do not change it. And the content of your post? Doesn't hurt. So why be railing against it so much? There's an obvious answer.

[Blanks]

11. I've given this loss some thought...

And as much as I hate to see the republicans have the seat - it could make a good rallying call for voters to 'not stay at home' in November.

The republicans have held that seat for decades, it isn't surprising that they hung on to it.

I know I got a lot of emails asking me to support her.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

13. And, wasting time talking about Ukraine, and women's rights, and the NSA, and...

all sorts of unimportant "distractions" other than a congressional race in Florida where most of us don't live running candidates we don't know.

Why, I even saw a post about kittehs!

[RoccoR5955]

14. So just follow the Party Line...

Just like RepubliCONS!

Yeah, right.
The district was held by Cons for more than 30 years. Just because they voted for Obama, doesn't mean that it's a Democratic district, AFIC.

[msanthrope]

17. I am highly suspicious of those who wish to engage in the 2016 primary before the 2014s. nt

[giftedgirl77]

28. Over & over & over.

[treestar]

37. + eighty gazillion

[iandhr]

18. Ding Ding Ding

[Scootaloo]

19. And what did you do to prevent that, Mom?

I mean if you're here waggling your finger at us, I have to assume you made some herculean effort to sink Jolly as well? In a district, might I add, that had a Republican in the seat for three decades? Where the Democrat challenger wasn't exactly a strong candidate in the first place?

Save your self-righteous recriminations, Cali_Democrat.

[Cali_Democrat]

21. I certainly wouldn't listen to you

The only issues you care about are related to Israel/Palestine.

Why don't you stick to that forum....

[Scootaloo]

24. Well, if you listened to me, you'd know better than that

Listening to me, in fact, is known to cure most major forms of ignorance.

For instance, you think that talking about stuff on DU cost Sink the election. However, he overwhelming majority of DU'ers weren't eligible to vote in that election, anyway. Some of us are on the diametrically opposite side of the continent, in fact. Our posting or reading habits bore absolutely no relevance whatsoever to that election

There. Your ignorance is cured. All it took was ten seconds. I don't even charge for this stuff!

Here's another one:

You have absolutely no OP's about this race, yourself. You have lots of shit-slinging about Putin and Snowden and other DU'ers (all one and the same, apparently), buuuuuut diddle-fucking squat about the Sink v. Jolly race. If it's DU's fault that Sink lost, you are very absolutely a big cause of the problem. Thus you have no base from which to criticize.

Again! Enlightenment! I can keep up all day.

In fact my magical ignorance-lifting abilities are why I/P is my go-to group. But, you'll notice that GD is my "favorite forum," with three times the posts in the last 90 days. So... again. More ignorance evaporates like ether on hot pavement!

[Cali_Democrat]

25. LOL...you're nothing more than a one trick pony

Actually, I was wrong. Other than focusing on Israel/Palestine, you're really good at slinging insults at DUers.

Arguing with you is a complete waste of time because you really have no interest in discussing issues other than Israel/Palestine. You may pretend to care about other issues, but you really don't.

Very similar to the gunners on DU.

You pretty much focus on only one issue.

Waste. Of. Time.

[Scootaloo]

27. Oh, that's rich.

you're really good at slinging insults at DUers.

Tell me again how everyone posting on DU cost Sink the election? Except for yourself, since your habit of perpetually making posts where you call everyone else pro-Putin, Assad-loving, Democrat-hating sufferers of "ODS" who worship at the altar of Snowden and Greenwald apparently contributed to Sink's numbers somehow?

Here's a tip. If you don't want people to throw your own BS back into your face, maybe you shouldn't start OP's whose sole purpose is to fling said feces.

[Cali_Democrat]

32. ....says the one-trick pony

Funny how you accuse me of flinging feces. I focus on a lot of topics in my OP's, you just seem to be more attracted to my posts about Putin and Snowden.

Your sole purpose on DU is to fling feces at people who disagree with you about Israel/Palestine. I've seen your posts about that subject and I just chuckle.

Just like how the gunners attack people who disagree with their views.

Waste. Of. Time.

[Scootaloo]

33. You do have some variety there

Like here, where you accuse Du of costing a Democrat the election in a staunchly Republican Florida district, where he was outspent and frankly outcampaigned. But it's DU's fault. because some of us are thinking about who might run as a candidate for 2016. Because boy howdy if there's one thing democrats can't do, it's walk and chew gum. Which is why you obviously feel the need to "set us straight." ...Even though by your own argument you're as much if not more a part of the problem than those you are recriminating.

And please. Feel free to contribute to I/P threads. It's always refreshing to get new voices. Granted, it'll take time away from you constantly attacking other DU'ers, but hey. Might be fun anyway

[Marr]

22. Actually, I blame it on toast with jam.

If you hadn't eaten all that toast with jam, the GOP never would've won that seat.

Since apparently you can connect any random things together into a causal relationship, we might as well put some toast with jam in there. Who doesn't like toast with jam?

[progressoid]

26. Bullshit.

We aren't distracted.

[Savannahmann]

31. Sink outspent Jolly by about 3-1.

A majority of donations to Jolly came from Congressmen.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20140312/DACFR78G0.html

While Republicans held the congressional seat for four decades until Young's death last year, the district's voters favored Obama in the 2008 and 2012 presidential elections. The district is 37 percent Republican, 35 percent Democrat and 24 percent independent.

Sink outspent Jolly by more than 3 to 1 on television advertising, though outside groups aligned with the GOP helped narrow the overall Democratic advantage.

And let's not forget the effect of all that money.

"I stopped watching television because the ads were driving me crazy," said William McConnell, a 72-year-old forensic accountant and lifelong Republican. "It was packed with lies on both sides." He cast his ballot for Overby as a protest vote.

[bigwillq]

34. It's a red seat.

And Sink still almost bought the seat. She spent a lot didn't she?