Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

rafeh1

(385 posts)
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 05:09 PM Mar 2014

Why America overpays for bridges, highways, transit, and other transportation infrastructure

American taxpayers are getting a terrible deal when it comes to large government-sponsored infrastructure projects. We pay 2 or 3 times as much for them as we should in many cases. The result is that we are put to shame by many other nations when it comes to building the highways and other transportation facilities we need to remain competitive.

Consider bridges, for example. Compare the Millau Viaduct in France, a one and a half mile long cable stay bridge over the Tarn River Valley in France, completed in 2004 at a cost about $483 million dollars (at the 2004 dollar/euro exchange rate),



with the 2.2 mile long Eastern Span of the San Francisco Bay Bridge, completed in 2013 at a cost of $6.4 billion dollars.



Even allowing for inflation, for the fact that the Bay Bridge is more than twice as wide and constructed over water, the cost comparison is starling.

Ryan Cooper, writing in The Week, explains at least a good part of the bad bargain we are getting. In sum, there are three main factors he finds:

1. Expensive labor. From the top brass at New York's Metropolitan Transportation Authority: "The MTA is required to overstaff projects so that the same [tunnel boring machine] work, for instance, that can be done in Spain with nine workers must be done in [New York City] with 25 workers."

2. Out-of-control private contractors. From Stephen Smith at Bloomberg: "Agencies can't keep their private contractors in check. Starved of funds and expertise for in-house planning, officials contract out the project management and early design concepts to private companies that have little incentive to keep costs down and quality up."

3. A crap procurement process. The classic American way to pay for a big project is to round up about half of the funding (or even less), start construction, and then use a sunk-cost-fallacy to get the rest. This, obviously, is not conducive to efficient or speedy projects. (Looking at you, California high-speed rail.)

http://americanthinker.com/blog/2014/03/why_america_overpays_for_bridges_highways_transit_and_other_transportation_infrastructure.html

_________________________________________________________________

This is from right wing repuke site but even so fact is our infra structure cost is out of sight compared with europe. I mean they have unions etc so what gives?

1 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Why America overpays for bridges, highways, transit, and other transportation infrastructure (Original Post) rafeh1 Mar 2014 OP
What gives? ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #1
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
1. What gives? ...
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 05:34 PM
Mar 2014

The European construction companies' executive compensation and profit margins are far lower that those in the US.

AND, BTW, I do not believe for one instant that the MTA is required to featherbed (over staff) projects, unless it is to support their patronage job system.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Why America overpays for ...