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http://www.alternet.org/fox-news-has-angry-grandpa-freakoutIts easy to poke fun at Bill OReillys freakout over President Obama sitting down with Zach Galifianakis on his satirical Web series Between Two Ferns. On one level, its a typical case of Angry Grandpa just not getting it Did he really say Abe Lincoln would not have done it? Why, yes he did but its more than that. Its a case of an entire political demographic panicking over how irrelevant theyre becoming, and how Obama is hastening their passing. To be honest, some in the mainstream media had a comparable reaction to OReillys without OReillys surreal Abe Lincoln reference and right-wing angst. CNN pundit and bipartisan presidential fixer David Gergen brought OReillys point into the 20thcentury, tweeting:
But even ABC News Jim Avila, unbelievably, badgered Jay Carney at his Tuesday briefing about whether Obama had damaged the presidency by appearing with the Hangover star (and deadpanning mean jokes about the flop that was The Hangover III). How much discussion was there in the White House about the dignity of the office and whether or not, in order to reach these people who dont watch us at 6:30, or who dont watch this briefing, Avila asked Carney. He went on to wonder how much the dignity of the office might be lost? This is an interview like no other probably ever done by a president. Beyond the fuddy-duddy concern about the dignity of the presidency, traditional media folks are defending their own turf. They know this president, and increasingly other politicians, are learning how to move out beyond the networks and the Sunday shows, to reach a demographic the networks cant reach: younger people.
As Between Two Ferns producer/director Scott Aukerman told New York magazine:
The great part about it is, this president knows how to reach young people in a way that no other president has, and its very important that he reach young people with this issue. This is so much better and will attract so much more attention than him going on a Sunday morning show and talking about this issue when most people I know of this generation arent even up that early on a Sunday morning.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)Freaking idiots.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)They sure yukked it up when Bush did that disgusting bit, didn't they?
hibbing
(10,094 posts)Yes, and all of them in the room laughed, made me sick to my stomach. What dipsticks, they all go to the same DC cocktail parties and hang with the same elite people. I bet not one of them could tell you the price of a gallon of milk or gas.
Peace
sarge43
(28,940 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)Recall how the rich hated the way FDR made fun of them, laughed in their faces.
tridim
(45,358 posts)Anyone else loving his show "Comedy Bang Bang"?
It's absolutely amazing.
Baitball Blogger
(46,682 posts)You're doing us a favor.
freebrew
(1,917 posts)I'm an old white guy....never seen that show.
I have seen him on Stewart's show, he's an idiot(O'Reilly, not John).
Baitball Blogger
(46,682 posts)You're a cool white guy, as opposed to an ole white guy, as in Good "ole" boy.
freebrew
(1,917 posts)all is well, but as an ozarkian, I may qualify as a good ole boy too. Jus' sayin'.
baldguy
(36,649 posts)With a dash of cognitive dissonance.
pacerbluedrum1949
(14 posts)Oh yeah 8yrs OF Bush were MAJESTIC
demwing
(16,916 posts)they couldn't give two damns about "the majesty of the office."
Blanks
(4,835 posts)Erased all the dignity that Dubya 'gained' the office by carrying that fake turkey around for the troops. Very dignified.
And what about Reagan and the open mike outlawing the Soviet Union (bombing begins in 5 minutes).
Presidents get to joke around. Lincoln was shot at the theater. A different type of entertainment, but entertainment just the same. Does O'Reilly get to decide what entertainment is appropriate for the president?
What a buffoon. It's hard to believe ANYONE gives two shits what he thinks.
yesphan
(1,587 posts)yardwork
(61,537 posts)Humphrey refused an invitation to appear. So much for majesty.
freebrew
(1,917 posts)Except not for us.
louis-t
(23,266 posts)they will argue "WELL, derp derp, that was BEFORE he was elected."
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)The Wizard
(12,534 posts)Perhaps the remedy is one of the Fleet products at any local drug store or supermarket.
freebrew
(1,917 posts)Same drunk eyes, just needs a little spray tan.
Dustlawyer
(10,494 posts)He didn't have any problems disrespecting the office of the President and the actual President a month ago!
onenote
(42,560 posts)Deal or No Deal w/Howie Mandel. Yes, it was to pay tribute to a soldier, but Dubya tried out a few jokes, so it wasn't exactly a dignified appearance.
Less dignity than Nixon inviting Elvis to the Oval Office?
Less dignity than Bush I inviting Dana Carvey to the White House?
Kathleen Parker did a column critical of the president as well -- my immediate thought was that she'd had her "get off my lawn" moment.
Rex
(65,616 posts)to GET the show or just how badass the dialog was!
Mostly because of THIS reason - I call it headuptheassittis;
NOPE NO SENSE OF HUMOR IN THERE EITHER!
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)...said then-president Ford in a clip for Saturday Night Live.
(actually thought that was a bit cool)
thucythucy
(8,038 posts)and was often criticized for it. On one occasion he was (falsely) accused of asking for a comedic song from a friend after meeting McClellan on the battlefield at Antietam--before many of the dead had been buried.
My favorite Lincoln joke: he was once accused of being "two faced." He replied, "If I had two faces, do you really think THIS is the face I'd wear?"
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)as I was JUST going to point this out. He was a NOTORIOUS practical joker and O'Reilly would have known that had he ever actually CRACKED A BOOK ABOUT LINCOLN.
McClellan had been "preparing" the troops for months and months to march south and, Lincoln, getting impatient with McLellan's inaction, wrote him a letter asking McClellan if he could borrow the troops since McClellan obviously wasn't using them.
Fortinbras Armstrong
(4,473 posts)Last edited Sat Mar 15, 2014, 08:43 AM - Edit history (1)
Was that Revolutionary War General Ethan Allen visited to England after the war. A man he was visiting tried to embarrass Allen by putting a large portrait of George Washington in the privy. After he had used it, he was asked what he thought of the decorations. Allen said he approved, since "there is nothing to make an Englishman shit faster than the sight of George Washington."
And yes, Lincoln used the word "shit" when telling the story.
thucythucy
(8,038 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)FuzzyRabbit
(1,967 posts)But it's not just repukes who think the president is the same as the king of the US.
radicalliberal
(907 posts)[youtube]
[/youtube]Get a load of dem hips! (Ugh! Maybe not! It's too embarrassing!)
(Okay, okay, he no longer was a Congressman. But he was my Congressman! )
BarbaRosa
(2,684 posts)Dignity?
Delmette
(522 posts)When VP Agnew resigned, then Nixon resigned! Our entire country was embarrassed.
TNNurse
(6,924 posts)When I wish God could come down and smite people. There are also times when I wish people could come back from the dead and remind idiots like O'Reilly that they cannot speak for another person. Wouldn't you like to see Lincoln explain that to him?
All those who speak for God and Jesus deserve the same treatment.
Arkansaw
(10 posts)I was born during WW2 while my father was in the Army Air Force so I have seen a few presidents. I think President Obama is the coolest president so far and is doing a very good job under difficult circumstances. I am not a regular viewer of Between Two Ferns but I have see a couple of shows before President Obama was on.
I was in the 1st grade when Bill OReilly was born and I think he is an old Fuddy Duddy. OReillys humor would probably be the one liner jokes of the old Vaudeville comics, short and easy to understand.
PennsylvaniaMatt
(966 posts)The media, both the right-wing and the "mainstream", will be pissed because a web interview with a Hollywood actor got more views than any of their newscasts combined. The media needs to know that it was A JOKE!
It seems like the Washington press establishment has always been somewhat "stuffy," however they have really personified the " you damn kids, get off my lawn" mentality since President Obama came into office!
I'm 18 and I enjoyed the interview, but this doesn't mean I'm some "liberal deadbeat teen" who only gets their news from Comedy Central. I'm a pre-law, Dean's List, proud liberal student who has more intelligence than half of the grumpy old conservatives who are attacking myself and my generation!
libodem
(19,288 posts)tblue37
(65,216 posts)he appealed to young voters with that appearance.
Wanna see undignified? Check out the many videos of W pretend dancing--with an African dance troop in one, doing a self-consciously clowning soft shoe in another while waiting for something outside the White House. Were these guys concerned about presidential dignity then?