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G_j

(40,366 posts)
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:39 AM Mar 2014

Obama pledges to declassify CIA interrogations report

http://www.interaksyon.com/article/82599/obama-pledges-to-declassify-cia-interrogations-report

By: Agence France-Presse
March 13, 2014 7:15 AM

InterAksyon.com
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WASHINGTON DC - President Barack Obama pledged Wednesday to declassify a report on CIA interrogations that sparked a fierce public row between the spy agency and a top senator.

Obama also said that claims that the CIA snooped in on computers used by the Senate Intelligence committee as it probed the agency's interrogations of George W. Bush era terror suspects had been properly handled by chief John Brennan.

It was the first time Obama weighed into the controversy since an extraordinary intervention by Senator Dianne Feinstein this week opened an unprecedented political battle between the CIA and the committee that oversees it.

"I am absolutely committed to declassifying that report as soon as the report is completed," Obama told reporters.

"In fact, I would urge them to go ahead and complete the report, send it to us.

"We will declassify those findings so that the American people can understand what happened in the past, and that can help guide us as we move forward."

Obama said that Brennan, a former close White House counterterrorism aide who he put in charge of the CIA, had referred the matter to the "appropriate authorities."

"That's not something that is an appropriate role for me and the White House to wade into at this point," Obama said.

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Obama pledges to declassify CIA interrogations report (Original Post) G_j Mar 2014 OP
... Solly Mack Mar 2014 #1
Torches and pitchforks don't really do much for the Present. randome Mar 2014 #3
LMAO Solly Mack Mar 2014 #5
always the outlier nt grasswire Mar 2014 #15
real transparency G_j Mar 2014 #8
and w/ using accurate words - like torture, war crimes, war criminal, crimes against humanity Solly Mack Mar 2014 #9
So would I. A LOT more transparency all across the board. randome Mar 2014 #11
true for the most part G_j Mar 2014 #18
Absolutely. And isn't there talk about imminent prosecutions of those individuals? randome Mar 2014 #19
Oh here we go again-blame Bush for everything.... underpants Mar 2014 #2
Then give the Senate Intelligence committee those documents you've been withholding! riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #4
That FACT WAS OMMITTED Ichingcarpenter Mar 2014 #7
Senate-CIA controversy widens over enhanced interrogation probe ProSense Mar 2014 #6
The CIA meddling with the Senate Intelligence Committee's work is evidence of a far greater .... Scuba Mar 2014 #10
Silly people still don't know who is in control yet. L0oniX Mar 2014 #13
Oh ...I can't wait to see all the black magic marker artwork. L0oniX Mar 2014 #12
Folks, let the appropriate authorities handle this. jsr Mar 2014 #14
Best advice of the week! randome Mar 2014 #16
you forgot the sarcasm tag. nt grasswire Mar 2014 #17
Thanks. jsr Mar 2014 #21
Does that include the 9,400 pages he's refusing to give Intel Committee? Oilwellian Mar 2014 #20

Solly Mack

(90,758 posts)
1. ...
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:59 AM
Mar 2014

"We will declassify those findings so that the American people can understand what happened in the past, and that can help guide us as we move forward."



Uh...

Never mind.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
3. Torches and pitchforks don't really do much for the Present.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 11:02 AM
Mar 2014

Bush and his minions successfully muddled everything with those idiotic 'findings' that torture was not torture. Prosecutions would serve no purpose. Obama is more 'in the know' because of his position. I trust him on this.
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G_j

(40,366 posts)
8. real transparency
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 11:09 AM
Mar 2014

transparency is the only possible way to move forward. We would also like to see accountability for criminal actions.

Solly Mack

(90,758 posts)
9. and w/ using accurate words - like torture, war crimes, war criminal, crimes against humanity
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 11:13 AM
Mar 2014

Thank you, G_j.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
11. So would I. A LOT more transparency all across the board.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 11:19 AM
Mar 2014

But the only thing that might come of trying to prosecute someone is a long, drawn-out and ultimately pointless trial because those who engaged in torture can always say, "Well, look we had this document from the Attorney General."

I just don't see how you can get past that. It would go all the way to the Supreme Court and we're pretty sure how they would rule on the matter.

So the only thing that would come of this is angst and anger. Unproductive, to say the least.

Identifying the individuals and letting the public take their 'revenge' on them? I can see that but I'd bet it would soon be open season an anyone even associated with the CIA, the innocent as well as the guilty. And that would not serve 'the public good', either.

So maybe it's a Catch-22 position for Obama. I'm just throwing out some thoughts.
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G_j

(40,366 posts)
18. true for the most part
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 12:02 PM
Mar 2014

although I'm pretty sure there are some things that are cut and dry, such as the destruction of documents.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
19. Absolutely. And isn't there talk about imminent prosecutions of those individuals?
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 12:12 PM
Mar 2014

I think that's part of what DiFi's report will encompass. It's one thing to 'hide' behind a bogus legal opinion, it's another thing entirely to actively destroy evidence. You can't have it both ways. Or at least you shouldn't be allowed to.
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riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
4. Then give the Senate Intelligence committee those documents you've been withholding!
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 11:03 AM
Mar 2014

Then maybe they can finish!

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
7. That FACT WAS OMMITTED
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 11:07 AM
Mar 2014

Because as of now He closed the library for them to finish the report.

But it sounds good in a sound bite.

As they say 'show me the money'

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
6. Senate-CIA controversy widens over enhanced interrogation probe
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 11:04 AM
Mar 2014
Senate-CIA controversy widens over enhanced interrogation probe

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The public battle between the Senate Intelligence Committee and the CIA is growing over a confidential report on the spy agency. The committee's top Republican says a special investigator may now have to get involved.

The highly unusual case is now dividing not just the Senate and the CIA but senators themselves, Nancy Cordes reports. Many Republicans didn't want to investigate the CIA in the first place. They didn't have a problem with its enhanced interrogation tactics, and they now feel the Democrats might be making too many uncomfortable details public.

CIA Director John Brennan was on Capitol Hill Wednesday but ignored CBS News' questions about his agency's dispute with Congress... Senate Intelligence Chair Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif...said Brennan informed her earlier this year that CIA agents searched her committee's computer system while the committee was investigating the CIA's Bush-era interrogation program. Feinstein said in her speech Tuesday, "The CIA's search may well have violated the separation of powers principles embodied in the United States Constitution."

Outrage spread Wednesday, with Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif. - who chairs the House Oversight Committee - calling the CIA's actions, if true, "effectively treason." ...not all Republicans shared his view. After meeting with Brennan, Sen. Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga., the top member on the Intelligence Committee, argued the facts are still murky.

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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/senate-intelligence-committee-cia-battle-widens-over-computer-search/


 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
10. The CIA meddling with the Senate Intelligence Committee's work is evidence of a far greater ....
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 11:17 AM
Mar 2014

... threat to our democracy than their many other misdeeds combined. DiFi's statement is an indictment of the Intelligence Committee's allowing the CIA to manipulate them. It is astounding that the Committee let the CIA dictate terms to them, denied them access to documents, etc.



More here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024655603

jsr

(7,712 posts)
14. Folks, let the appropriate authorities handle this.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 11:25 AM
Mar 2014

Last edited Thu Mar 13, 2014, 12:14 PM - Edit history (1)

Let's move forward.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
16. Best advice of the week!
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 11:59 AM
Mar 2014

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Everything is a satellite to some other thing.[/center][/font][hr]

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
20. Does that include the 9,400 pages he's refusing to give Intel Committee?
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 12:13 PM
Mar 2014

President Barack Obama’s administration has refused to release about 9,400 documents connected to the Senate Intelligence Committee investigation at the heart of an ongoing dispute with the Central Intelligence Agency, (CIA) McClatchy Newspapers reported on Wednesday.

The White House has allegedly rejected or ignored written and verbal requests for committee members to review the materials, which relate to the agency’s “enhanced interrogation” program shut down near the beginning of Obama’s presidency. Committee staff members allegedly first learned about the documents in 2009, but it is not clear whether the CIA granted them access to them before the White House made them unavailable.

However, McClatchy reported that Obama has not made a formal statement indicating the documents were protected by executive privilege.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024653838

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