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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsKerry: Congress MUST include IMF Reforms in Ukraine Aid Package (to screw the working class)
Argues IMF reforms sought by administration must be included.
By Stacy Kaper. March 13, 2014
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"We must have IMF reform," he said at a Senate Appropriations subcommittee hearing on the State Department and Foreign Operations budget. "It would be a terrible message to the Ukraine not be able to follow through," on boosting the fund's lending capacity.
Vermont Democrat Sen. Patrick Leahy, who chaired the hearing, argued it was important for the Senate to understand which version of Ukraine aid the president wanted to sign--the House-passed bill that authorizes $1 billion in loan guarantees, or the Senate Foreign Relations Committee's version, which would include IMF reform and sanctions against Russia.
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Kerry argued the IMF piece is critical.
"The IMF is the tool that helps to bring countries into alignment on their transparency, accountability in their reforms, their market economy, all of the things that are in our interests," he said. "I could not underscore more Sen. Graham, the importance of what you are saying and the importance of following through."
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http://www.nationaljournal.com/defense/kerry-congress-risks-sending-wrong-message-to-ukraine-20140313
There's that transparency again!
Economy in doldrums, the Kiev junta is urgently reviving cooperation with the International Monetary Fund. On March 4 a team from the IMF was in Kiev to study the books and consider a loan. Kiev hopes to get the first $3 billion in a month. Yatsenyuk rushed to assure the West that Ukraine is ready to meet all the conditions put forward by the Fund. One can imagine how badly it is going to hurt common people.
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Some conditions are already known: to raise the male retirement age by two years and make it three years more for women, to eliminate special pension benefits for scholars, state employees, heads of state enterprises, to limit pensions for those who continue to work having reached the retirement age and the military commissioned officers will retire at 60. The IMF wants the government to do away with child care, things like a baby bonus (a government payment to parents of a newborn baby), gratuitous lunches and free textbooks. Unemployment benefits will be paid out only after six months of uninterrupted work, sick-list benefit will go down to 70% of salary with the compensation counted only from the third day of sick absence. Minimum living wage hikes will be frozen. Municipal enterprises will have to pay 50% more for gas while the price will be increased twofold for private consumers. There will be a 40% rise of electricity costs while utilities payments will go up along with the gas hikes.
Ukraine is to do away with benefits and raise transport taxes by 50% increasing the petrol excise by 60 euros. The simplified taxation system for entrepreneurs will be curtailed, probably to make businessmen happy, while pensioners will be done a favor by having value-added taxes raised for pharmacies pushing up medicine prices by 20 %.
The IMF conditions are going to strike agriculture. Western creditors demand to rescind the moratorium on the sale of agricultural land, the value-added tax easing law for those who reside in rural areas and also subsidies for pork and chicken meat producers. Besides, the International Monetary Fund wants Ukraine to privatize all coal mines and completely abrogate state subsidies for them. Transport, as well as housing and communal services benefits are to be revoked.
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http://williambowles.info/2014/03/09/the-west-tightens-noose-around-ukraines-economy-by-olga-shedrova/
The retirement age in Ukraine was 60 for men and 55 for women. In 2011, they raised it to 60 for women (raised by six months every year for the next 10 years) and 62 for men.
The most significant modifications are the following: within five years (in intervals of six months each year, starting from 1 September 2011) to raise the retirement age for women from 55 to 60 and within four years (in intervals of six months each year, starting from 1 January 2013) to raise the retirement age for men working as civil servants from 60 to 62. Moreover, the law increases the number of years worked required to obtain a minimal pension from 20 to 30 years for women and from 25 to 35 years for men. Also the maximum value of the pension was limited to ten times the equivalent of the subsistence minimum and the value of the pension for civil servants was reduced. Salaries from the last three years of work were designated as the basis for calculating pensions, not from the final year as it had been previously. The increase in the years of work required to entitle somebody to a pension and the broadening of the basis for calculating pensions will lead to a lower value of the newly established pensions.
http://www.osw.waw.pl/en/publikacje/analyses/2011-07-13/a-cosmetic-pension-system-reform-ukraine
Read that part closely because the same things have been happening in the US for years except that we're not putting 2+2 together and understanding that this is a global attack on the working class and huge transfer of OUR money into THEIR pockets.
The IMF wants that retirement age raised to 65 for both now.
Here's what happened when Yanukovich increased the retirement age in 2011. The people said NO. They rebelled against the cuts Yanukovich was making for the IMF deal and that's when Yanukovich turned to the much more generous package Russia offered and that didn't meddle in Ukraine's internal affairs or come off the backs of the poor.
Tuesday Sep 20, 2011
Protesters clash with police in front of Ukrainian parliament in Kiev, Ukraine, September 20. More than 10,000 people, among them Afghanistan war veterans, demonstrated in the Ukrainian capital Kiev to protest proposed benefit cuts, with some of the marchers attempting to break police cordons around the national parliament building. Veterans of the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear power accident also participated in the street protests. Like Afghanistan war veterans, Ukraine's Chernobyl victims face reduced pensions and medical payments if parliament passes a cost-cutting bill currently under debate. Protesters shouted Shame along with insults, as police struggled to keep demonstrators from overturning barriers. The International Monetary Fund (IMF) officials have said cash-strapped Ukraine must reduce numbers of people receiving social payments and the size of those payments, to obtain further IMF financing.
http://photoblog.nbcnews.com/_news/2011/09/20/7857736-thousands-protest-pension-and-benefits-cuts-in-ukraine
And that was just the beginning because the IMF wants those pensions privatized, it wants for-profit reforms in medical care and education, and social support programs, you know, like free daycare.
SOUND FAMILIAR? Recognize any global patterns?
Here's our new foreign policy:
Step 1: Destroy a country economically and if necessary militarily or by coup.
Step 2: Send in the vultures to *reconstruct* what was destroyed in the first step, with loans to put the entire population of that country in debt for generations
Step 3: Rinse and repeat with every country you can intimidate at the barrel of a gun
And who's subsidizing this? We are. WE who are having our own benefits cut so our government can write checks to a putsch government in Ukraine to hand over to the IMF that's making them cut their people's pensions and social services too.
What a scam.
It's all going to the same banking cartel that's squeezing our country dry and the same little people who are being squeezed dry here are having the money from our pensions and social services stolen to pay these banks to squeeze little people in other countries dry.
Democracy pffffft. This has nothing to do with democracy or human rights.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Catherina
(35,568 posts)There's always a neverending supply of poor to exploit. The just move from one city to the next, one country to the next, one continent to the next, rinse lather repeat since the dawn of time.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Everything seems to be going according to plan with IMF and the Globilization movement.
As you say:
"What a scam.
It's all going to the same banking cartel that's squeezing our country dry and the same little people who are being squeezed dry here are having the money from our pensions and social services stolen to pay these banks to squeeze little people in other countries dry.
Democracy pffffft. This has nothing to do with democracy or human rights."
Catherina
(35,568 posts)What you said... It's all "going according to plan with IMF and the Globalization movement."
The sooner we recognize that the same things we're complaining about here is being done on a bipartisan level to workers all around the world, the sooner we'll be able to fight it here.
Occupy Wall Street, with its idea of getting the banks and multinational corporations out of BOTH parties in our government, was a great first step.
1000words
(7,051 posts)Catherina
(35,568 posts)socialist_n_TN
(11,481 posts)This must have been in '65 or so because Brian Jones is still alive.
Edit to add: I just saw the time stamp. So it was '66.
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malaise
(268,930 posts)This is Shock Doctrine and Disaster Capitalism on steroids - but we knew what was coming because we understand the coup.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)functioning_cog
(294 posts)functioning_cog
(294 posts)with IMF for funds based on accountability and transparency? You do realize the people at fault here are the political leaders and wealthy of UKRAINE? WHy must you project every country's internal problems onto your template that says "West is Bad. USA is VERY BAD". It is failed ability at using reason and logic.
Benton D Struckcheon
(2,347 posts)I especially loved "at the barrel of a gun." Russia invades, but to read these people, you'd think it was us.
Anyway, the Russians got their desired disturbances, complete with violence and someone dying, in Donetsk today, and there's a rumor that they'll move on the east on Sunday.
Pretty much a done deal. Ukraine will be dismembered, by the Russians, and if that comes to pass there will be a blizzard of posts on DU blaming it on the US, the EU, and the IMF. Count on it.
IF any sort of actual military action happens, the entire blame for that will rest with the US, along with the Ukrainian armed forces, to the extent they resist the Russians. That will be the line, regardless of the reality, to this clique of posters.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Indeed. "This is Shock Doctrine and Disaster Capitalism on steroids". You can tell by the increased, panicked vehemence of the people defending it.
Ranting with Chunky Mark right now
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)I enjoyed every second of that.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)If I ever get to London again, I wanna ride in his taxi!
Here's another one about Ukraine that I think you'll appreciate because it nails the madness
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)It truly is madness, isn't it.
mostlyconfused
(211 posts)while people like Ted Cruz are against it.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)absurd claims are always supported by sites that push the RW position?
Congress Should Block the Morally Hazardous IMF Reform Package
http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2014/01/us-congress-should-block-the-hazardous-imf-reform-package
Reid blames Ukraine standoff on Kochs
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/200716-reid-blames-ukraine-standoff-on-koch-brothers
It's all about undermining Democrats with RW spin.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)That's still no reason to rudely spam everyone else's threads and try to derail them or get them shut down. Maybe you could go kick a few of your own threads again?
ProSense
(116,464 posts)Catherina
(35,568 posts)113,000 posts of State Department talking points is bound to take a toll on anyone.
Out of charity, I won't tire you out any further so I'll be putting you on ignore. Again. It pains me to see you twisting yourself into such painful knots to defend every single thing this administration does.
I hope you get some rest.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)I'm not going to return the favor. I want to see all the Paul Craig Roberts and infowars stuff posted.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Paul Craig Roberts was wildly popular here, 39,100 hits at DU, when he was speaking against Bush. Now that he's criticizing Obama, you have your finger glued to that alert button trying SOP violations, jury alerts, anything you can think of to hide as much criticism as you can. I didn't now know he was a racist until 2 days ago. But you know what? I don't really care because agreeing with his political analyses doesn't mean I'm endorsing his racist views. Senator Robert Byrd (D) was a racist too but he stood up against Iraq war with more patriotism and honesty than most of the rest of the rotten Congress put together.
And I'll be bookmarking this post because I know you'll twist this later on and take it out of context that I agree with Craig's racist views ergo I am a racist which would be a neat trick for a Black woman like me.
Infowars? I've never posted anything from them or even been to their site. You're so tired from all your hard work that you're confused. Either that or you're reduced to smearing people now. I really do hope you get some rest.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)You're attempting to justify posting that racist's rants?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024613019#post29
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024640081#post24
"Oh well, then I'll have to rescind my thoughtful offer since now you're reduced to lying"
"Infowars? I've never posted anything from them or even been to their site."
If you're going to accuse me of "lying":
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024613019#post14
Catherina
(35,568 posts)I've noticed a steep drop in the "quality" of the posts lately too.
....just going barely through the Cut & Paste Spam motions now.
Sad.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"I've noticed a steep drop in the "quality" of the posts lately too.
....just going barely through the Cut & Paste Spam motions now.
Sad."
...blue linky: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024658478#post26
Catherina
(35,568 posts)because spamming everyone else's threads wasn't getting any attention. "....just going barely through the Cut & Paste Spam motions now."
Fucking sad.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)Reduced to kicking their own posts groveling for Recs.
Blue Links to their own discredited posts like THAT supports their position.
Repeat, repeat, repeat...ad nauseam
Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right.
Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile. [font size=3]To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.[/font]"
T. Roosevelt in the Kansas City Star,
May 7, 1918
I've been a Democrat FAR too long to just sit down and support whatever they tell me to support,
and NO Democrat I have ever know or respected would EVER make that suggestion.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)G_j
(40,366 posts)you have never heard of the IMF?
And who here cares what your RW links say?
bvar22
(39,909 posts)We all know that is how YOU see it,
but for all the rest of us,
it is about [font size=3]Doing the RIGHT thing for The People[/font],
and not necessarily the Right Thing for the Global 1%.
Unfortunately, as far as John Kerry is concerned,
it has been obvious since his vote FOR the Invasion of Iraq (and even before that)
that The People aren't as important to him as they once were.
What a sad ending to a career that started so well.
I used to be a HUGE fan.....before he started carrying water for the 1%.
You will know them by their WORKS.
but for all the rest of us,
it is about Doing the RIGHT thing for The People,
and not necessarily the Right Thing for the Global 1%.
Unfortunately, as far as John Kerry is concerned,
it has been obvious since his vote FOR the Invasion of Iraq (and even before that)
that The People aren't as important to him as they once were.
This message brought to you by Progressive for Putin.
A few days ago, there was allegedly no support for Putin and the U.S. was hypocritical for being against the invasion because of Iraq. Now opponents of Bush's illegal Iraq invasion are trying to justify an illegal invasion.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)They are evil dictators who kill their own people !
If you're not FOR the WAR in
Vietnam
Afghanistan
Iraq
Libya
Syria,
[font size=5]The Ukraine
you're WITH [/font]
The Communists
AlQaeda
The Terrorists
Saddam
Qaddafi
Assad
[font size=5]PUTIN![/font]
Hasn't that deceitful, right wing, divisive, warmongering, adolescent binary rhetoric caused enough Death and Destruction?
When will YOU say "ENOUGH!"
Do you STAND for anything?
I do.
blue linky: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024660192
reformist2
(9,841 posts)All we really care about is rooting for our president because he told us the new government in the Ukraine is A-OK!!
1984
Catherina
(35,568 posts)But, for all of us, "If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next"
The song's theme is taken from the Spanish Civil War, and the idealism of Welsh volunteers who joined the left-wing International Brigades fighting for the Spanish Republic against Francisco Franco's military rebels. The song takes its name from a Republican poster of the time, displaying a photograph of a young child killed by the Nationalists under a sky of bombers with the stark warning "If you tolerate this, your children will be next" written at the bottom.
Various works on the Spanish Civil War were the inspiration for this song, and certain lyrics pertain directly to these works. For example, the line "If I can shoot rabbits/then I can shoot fascists" is attributed to a remark made by a man who signed up with the Republican fighters to his brother in an interview years later. This was originally quoted in the book Miners Against Fascism by Hywel Francis. Another work George Orwell's first-hand account, "Homage to Catalonia". "I've walked Las Ramblas/but not with real intent" brings to mind the account in Orwell's book of fighting on the Ramblas, with the various factions seemingly getting nowhere, with the fighting and often a sense of camaraderie overriding the vaunted principles each side was supposed to be fighting for.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_You_Tolerate_This_Your_Children_Will_Be_Next
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Catherina
(35,568 posts)Victoria Nuland admitted recently that we poured $5 Billion into creating the mess we now have in Ukraine.
Detroit can just wait in line. Detroit's a test case anyway, expect to see more Detroits soon while we send billions overseas and subsidize our new fracking ventures to make more profits for the 1%.
Wife of PNAC co-counder, Victoria Nuland, says US invested $5 Billion in 'The Development of Ukrainian "Democratic Institutions"'
Since Ukraines independence in 1991, the United States has ... invested over $5 billion to assist Ukraine in these and other goals that will ensure a secure and prosperous and democratic Ukraine.... The reforms that the IMF insists on are necessary for the long-term economic health of the country. A new deal with the IMF would also send a positive signal to private markets ... it would be a huge shame to see five years worth of work and preparation go to waste if the AA is not signed in the near future. So it is time to finish the job. Victoria Nuland, Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs at the State Department, wife of PNAC co-founder Robert Kagan
In other words, welcome to the EU Austerity club and get in line behind Greece, Spain, Portugal, Ireland and Italy for a strong dose of IMF shock therapy.
This is the same woman who was running back and forth to Ukraine passing out cookies to the violent protesters and egging them in in the finest Florida Bush-mob tradition. This picture was snapped before the intercepted phone call on unsecure cell phone between her and the US Ambassador in Ukraine discussing which of their rent-a-mob leaders should take the reins later and "fuck the EU" if they didn't like it because we'll get the UN to glue it all together for us.)
Victoria Nuland handing out cookies to protesters in Kiev
Her remarks were made at an even sponsored by Chevron and ExxonMobil and stacked with Freedom House, NED types.
DUer Koko tried to sound the bell about Nuland.
The strange appointment of Victoria Nuland as State Department Spokesperson
By Patricia H. Kushlis
Update: 7/12/2013 - Toria grilled about Benghazi role at Senate Foreign Relations Committee confirmation hearing today for her next high level position: Assistant Secretary of State for Europe
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Is Hillary asleep at the switch? What is going on here?
Earlier this week, Josh Rogin at FP and Eric Martin at Progressive Realist both flagged the curious appointment of Victoria Nuland as the next State Department Spokesperson to fill P.J. Crowleys shoes.
Martin questions whether this has foreign policy implications, in particular the replacement of an anti-torture appointee with someone who served as Principal Deputy National Security Advisor to Vice President Cheney.
Rogin doesnt directly raise potential administration policy shifts but does point out that once upon a time Nuland was Strobe Talbotts Chief of Staff when he was Deputy Secretary of State during the Clinton Administration and that Talbott had thought very highly of her at the time and still does. In fact, he, according to Rogin, praised her to the hilt in an interview about the pending appointment. So the seemingly amoral Nuland, were led to believe, can and will do anyones bidding and do it well in short, a consummate career diplomat.
Why?
But why would Hillary Clinton and the Obama administration agree to appoint to this politically sensitive position someone who willingly served such a controversial figure in suppporting and implementing the war on terror and all the baggage that comes with it? Furthermore, how reliable is a Talbott reference anyway? After all, I understand that he just helped his friend Robert Kagan, Nulands neocon husband, get a job at Brookings and Talbott is also a friend of neocon writer Marc Gerecht, the husband of Diane Zeleny who also just latched onto a likely sweetheart deal sort of appointment as Head of External Relations and Congressional Affairs at the Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG). Whether Zeleny deserves or is qualified for the position or not.
From what I know about the Department, an FSO doesnt just get detailed to the staff of a highly charged and ideological Vice President unless that detailee agrees to follow the bosss dictates. Cheneys were all too often forceful and odious. Furthermore, does anyone really think that Cheney with his penchant for super loyalty and secrecy - would have ever accepted Nuland (or anyone else) for the position without some kind of loyalty test?
Surely the State Department under Hillary Clinton could have found equally (or likely even better) qualified career candidates who do not carry Nulands political baggage.
Behind the scenes trade off?
......Continued at the Link.....
http://whirledview.typepad.com/whirledview/2011/05/the-strange-appointment-of-victoria-nuland-as-states-spokesperson.html
Taken from http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024461021#post2
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Catherina
(35,568 posts)but to officially start adding IMF language is beyond obscene.
Rejecting the entire thing and staying out of this mess would be great but they won't.
polly7
(20,582 posts)SOUND FAMILIAR? Recognize any global patterns?
Here's our new foreign policy:
Step 1: Destroy a country economically and if necessary militarily or by coup.
Step 2: Send in the vultures to *reconstruct* what was destroyed in the first step, with loans to put the entire population of that country in debt for generations
Step 3: Rinse and repeat with every country you can intimidate at the barrel of a gun
But .............. must HATE the Russians!
Catherina
(35,568 posts)I can't even keep track of who we're supposed to hate.
...
The first time I developed a patriotic hatred was in 1939, when newsboys came through the neighborhood at night, waving special editions and shouting: "Extra, extra, Germany invades Poland."
Although I was just a kid, within a couple of years I dutifully hated Germans, Japanese and Italians. (I didn't hate Italians very long, though, because they surrendered as soon as it was convenient.)
At the same time, I loved and admired the brave Russians and Chinese because they had joined us in hating the evil Germans, Japanese and Italians.
But as soon as World War II ended, and I could stop hating the evil Germans and Japanese because they weren't evil anymore, I had to start hating the brave Russians and Chinese, because they weren't brave anymore, but had become evil.
...
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1990-10-08/features/1990281108_1_hate-evil-cuba
The article goes on and it's only up to 1990!
socialist_n_TN
(11,481 posts)Except when we weren't.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)and expecting no one to notice.
polly7
(20,582 posts)Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Venezuela, Syria, Pakistan, Russia again ..... Starting to feel a bit claustrophobic and isolated here.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)these days. Is it a Tactic/Strategy?
I never saw him as the AGGRESOR...which is what he was on Syria and now when Russia helped him out...he's Back At It?
Is the State Department so infiltrated with Neo-Cons that he has no room for his Own Opinions or....are THESE his OWN OPINIONS.
Is everything so messed up in DC that we don't even know who is working FOR US and WHO is Pressured to WORK....AGAINST Us?
:shrug. Anyone have an ideas?
Catherina
(35,568 posts)...
Not Taking Command
Though the original team of rivals is gone (Gates in mid-2011, Petraeus after a sex scandal in late 2012, and Clinton in early 2013), Obama still has not grabbed control of his national security apparatus. Secretary of State John Kerry often behaves as if he thinks hes President John McCains top diplomat or a captive of the hawkish State Department bureaucracy, the likes of Nuland and U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Samantha Power.
For example, amid murky evidence regarding a chemical weapons attack in Syria, Kerry delivered what sounded like a declaration of war on Aug. 30, 2013, only to have Obama walk the U.S. bombing threats back over the next few weeks and finally put them to rest with the help of Putin who got the Syrian regime to agree to surrender all of its chemical weapons.
Similarly, Obama and Putin oversaw the hammering out of a framework to resolve the Iran nuclear dispute last November. Kerry was supposed to go to Geneva and sign the deal, but instead inserted some last-minute poison-pill language advocated by the French (who were carrying water for the Saudis), causing a breakdown of the talks. Im told that White House officials then instructed Kerry to return and sign the deal, which he finally did.
But Obamas back-pocket foreign policy and the extra energy that such an indirect management style requires have allowed for some serious mischief-making by neocons in the government and their sympathizers in the media, especially in areas of the world where Obama has not directed his personal attention.
...
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2014/03/13
Ideas? How about they're all so out of touch because they don't represent common people, they represent multinationals that can pick up the phone any time and get through. Can we get through? If we call, we get a busy signal, an answering machine or a low level aid if we're lucky.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)Parry and others are trying to create the impression that Kerry is doing things publicly that Obama disapproves of, and Obama has to keep stepping. Of course, the other hero is Putin.
Parry is portraying Obama as a neocon buster. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024629463
March 2, 2014
Special Report: The Ukrainian crisis partly fomented by U.S. neocons including holdovers at the State Department has soured U.S-Russian relations and disrupted President Obamas secretive cooperation with Russian President Putin to resolve crises in the Mideast, reports Robert Parry.
By Robert Parry
President Barack Obama has been trying, mostly in secret, to craft a new foreign policy that relies heavily on cooperation with Russian President Vladimir Putin to tamp down confrontations in hotspots such as Iran and Syria. But Obamas timidity about publicly explaining this strategy has left it open to attack from powerful elements of Official Washington, including well-placed neocons and people in his own administration.
The gravest threat to this Obama-Putin collaboration has now emerged in Ukraine, where a coalition of U.S. neocon operatives and neocon holdovers within the State Department fanned the flames of unrest in Ukraine, contributing to the violent overthrow of democratically elected President Viktor Yanukovych and now to a military intervention by Russian troops in the Crimea...Though Im told the Ukraine crisis caught Obama and Putin by surprise, the neocon determination to drive a wedge between the two leaders has been apparent for months, especially after Putin brokered a deal to head off U.S. military strikes against Syria last summer and helped get Iran to negotiate concessions on its nuclear program, both moves upsetting the neocons who had favored heightened confrontations.
<...>
The neocons were dealt another setback in 2008 when Barack Obama defeated a neocon favorite, Sen. John McCain. But Obama then made one of the fateful decisions of his presidency, deciding to staff key foreign-policy positions with a team of rivals, i.e. keeping Republican operative Robert Gates at the Defense Department and recruiting Hillary Clinton, a neocon-lite, to head the State Department...From the start, however, Obama was opposed by key elements of his own administration, especially at State and Defense, and by the still-influential neocons of Official Washington. According to various accounts, including Gatess new memoir Duty, Obama was maneuvered into supporting a troop surge in Afghanistan, as advocated by neocon Frederick Kagan and pushed by Gates, Petraeus and Clinton.
<...>
For instance, Secretary of State Kerry came close to announcing a U.S. war against Syria in a bellicose speech on Aug. 30, 2013, only to see Obama pull the rug out from under him as the President worked with Putin to defuse the crisis sparked by a disputed chemical weapons attack outside Damascus....Similarly, Obama and Putin hammered out the structure for an interim deal with Iran on how to constrain its nuclear program. But when Kerry was sent to seal that agreement in Geneva, he instead inserted new demands from the French (who were carrying water for the Saudis) and nearly screwed it all up. After getting called on the carpet by the White House, Kerry returned to Geneva and finalized the arrangements...Obamas unorthodox foreign policy essentially working in tandem with the Russian president and sometimes at odds with his own foreign policy bureaucracy has forced Obama into faux outrage when hes faced with some perceived affront from Russia, such as its agreement to give temporary asylum to National Security Agency whistleblower Edward Snowden....Obama had to express strong disapproval of Snowdens asylum, though in many ways Putin was doing Obama a favor by sparing Obama from having to prosecute Snowden with the attendant complications for U.S. national security and the damaging political repercussions from Obamas liberal base.
- more -
http://consortiumnews.com/2014/03/02/what-neocons-want-from-ukraine-crisis/
In this tale, Obama is secretly fighting the neocons for years, and is now secretly allied with Putin. He's batting down attempts by Kerry to start a war (I mean, obviously Kerry is pushing war by working on diplomatic solutions in the Syria and Ukraine situations, and even with Iran).
Obama has to put up a face of "faux outrage" to preserve this secret alliance and his desire to prevent war at all cost. Everyone, including those in his own administration, are plotting to sabotage his foreign policy. To date, Obama has stepped in to save the day.
The IMF reform is Obama's policy, and Kerry is carrying out Obama's policy.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Catherina
(35,568 posts)FarCenter
(19,429 posts)Boehner told reporters at his weekly briefing that the IMF boost, which was requested by the Obama administration, was irrelevant to the current crisis in Ukraine.
"Let's make sure we all understand something: The IMF money has nothing to do with Ukraine," he said.
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Republicans also see the move as opportunistic, since President Barack Obama and Democrats have been pushing for IMF reform for almost a year. In his budget for fiscal year 2015, Obama included an increase of about $63 billion from an existing credit line to the IMF. The White House has stated that the Ukraine crisis actually underscores the need to raise the quota and would strengthen U.S. influence within the agency.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/13/boehner-ukraine-aid_n_4958146.html
Apparently "IMF reform" = more US money into the IMF and increased US political control?
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)...But everything the IMF touches turns into utter shit, so there it is.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)One of the very few things I am grateful to George Bush for is that in his obsession with Iraq
he took his Eye-Off-the-Ball in Latin America long enough for those countries to elect
democratic governments.
Once elected, those countries immediately ran out the Global Colonial Money Lenders (the IMF)
and started using the profits from the extraction of those countries resources
to actually help The People of those countries.
Now, in Venezuela and other Latin American Countries,
[font size=3]The Poor and Working Class are celebrating,
and the RICH are protesting,[/font]
...and THAT is how it should be.
The IMF is functioning as a Pay Day Loan Scam for countries that need Ready Cash.
They lend cash to often corrupt leaders at absurd rates,
and demand that their "loans" be collateralize with that nations Natural Resources.
The IMF always demands that that nation institute Austerity and Union Busting BEFORE making "loans" to corrupt leaders.
The IMF is the 1% scourge on the modern World and the engine for Global Empire
The IMF was instrumental in the killing of Gaddafi in Libya.
For YEARS, Gaddafi had blocked IMF access to the rich resources of North Africa by undercutting
the IMF with low interest or NO interest loans for cash strapped North African Countries.
He used Oil Money to do so.
Champagne corks were A-Popping at the IMF HQ the day "NATO" took out Gaddafi.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MD27Ak01.html
The IMF hated Chavez for the same reason.
Chavez undercut the IMF usurious "LOANS" with Oil Money too.
The IMF is a Good Thing ONLY for the Global Bankers, the Global Resource Extraction Corporations, and the Global 1%.
You will know them by their WORKS.
polly7
(20,582 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Catherina
(35,568 posts)I seriously can't. Can you?
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Nope, they rock! Thank *you* for the OP too.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)And thanks for your support and great posts. The work you and MadFloridian do is crucial to getting future generations out of this mess
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Catherina
(35,568 posts)Gawd I love you. So true~
"One of the very few things I am grateful to George Bush for is that in his obsession with Iraq he took his Eye-Off-the-Ball in Latin America long enough for those countries to elect democratic governments. "
So true, everything you said
Once elected, those countries immediately ran out the Global Colonial Money Lenders (the IMF) and started using the profits from the extraction of those countries resources to actually help The People of those countries.
It is NO wonder that the same people we've been fighting in the LA forum who demonize socialist gains, the same people we've been fighting over social security cuts, the same people we've been fighting over the hold multinational corporations have on the Democratic Party, are all in the Ukraine threads pretending that putsch has something (anything!) to do with *democracy*.
AMEN!
(Though with great amusement, I noted some real slimes trying to co=opt your sigline, Funny as all hell).
reformist2
(9,841 posts)These Western elites would do well to mind their own countries.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)On this issue, the Republican Leadership and the Democratic party leadership absolutely agree:
[font size=3]The new Populist Democracies emerging in Latin America MUST be condemned and demonized![/font]
You would think that a country that pays so much Lip Service to words like "Freedom" and "Democracy"
would have more respect for the REAL thing.
But sadly, NO.
This hostile, oppositional stance toward these emerging democracies,
and the continued support for the few remaining Right Wing Death Squad Oligarchies (Colombia)
is having the predictable results of driving these democracies and their emerging markets straight into the welcoming arms of Russia, China, and Iran.
Stunning Stupidity?
OR
the submission of our government (Republican AND Democratic) to the Global 1% is THAT pervasive.
Pick One.
I see no other alternative.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Thank you.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)By Jason Lange and Asher Levine
(Reuters) - Approval of reforms at the International Monetary Fund is key to helping countries in need such as Ukraine, Brazilian Finance Minister Guido Mantega said on Monday, in a call for Washington to ratify changes agreed upon in 2010.
Speaking to reporters after meeting U.S. Treasury Secretary Jack Lew in Sao Paulo, Mantega said the so-called quota reforms are essential to build up the global lender's war chest. The quotas represent the size of a country's stake in and financial contribution to the IMF.
Brazil and other big developing economies including China and Russia have expressed frustration at the U.S. Congress' failure to ratify a package of reforms that would increase their influence in the IMF.
"We need to conclude (the reforms) so that we have a new distribution of quotas and to strengthen the IMF," Mantega said.
"It is important that we keep strengthening the IMF so it can fulfill its role of helping countries in need, like Ukraine."
Russia is pushing the IMF to move ahead with the reforms without the United States, in a direct challenge to the fund's largest shareholder, which has veto power over major decisions....Although Brazil has not taken a position on Russia's attempt to isolate the United States at the IMF, it has insisted that Washington honor its 2010 promise to approve the reforms.
- more -
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/17/us-brazil-mantega-imf-idUSBREA2G1R020140317
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024681048
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)Maedhros
(10,007 posts)Takes away everything it can get
Always making certain that there's one thing left
Keep them on the hook with insupportable debt.
And they call it democracy."
-- Bruce Cockburn
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)with rhetoric reminiscent of his Syria Diatribes.
WHO IS KERRY? these days?
Not the person our household walked the streets to get elected in our Repug District where we had hard time...but we did it ...because getting a Democatic Candidate into the Presidency was so Important.
Who is this GUY?
I don't even know....
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"Challenging the Russians" is against the U.S. Constitution.
How dare the U.S. SOS challenge the Russians after they rightfully invaded a country illegally?