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Brigid

(17,621 posts)
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 06:56 PM Mar 2014

Business Owners Concerned About New Overtime Law Proposal

http://touch.wishtv.com/r2709/b12ee672

Small business owners around Indianapolis are griping about Obama's proposal to change overtime pay rules. God, this is so typical of this low-wage, anti-worker state where employers are used to cheap, powerless labor.
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Business Owners Concerned About New Overtime Law Proposal (Original Post) Brigid Mar 2014 OP
All the IT contracting companies must be freaking out LiberalEsto Mar 2014 #1
It would make sense to gripe if.... AZ Mike Mar 2014 #2
I wonder what they would do with the military personnel yeoman6987 Mar 2014 #3
The military has never been subject to such regulations, for obvious reasons. bluedigger Mar 2014 #7
A brief history of corporate whining Aerows Mar 2014 #4
Your post deserves at least 1000 recs!! madinmaryland Mar 2014 #6
Make that an orginal post, please. n/t FSogol Mar 2014 #9
Done Aerows Mar 2014 #10
Of course they're whining ... etherealtruth Mar 2014 #5
Here's how the employers handle it madville Mar 2014 #8
That would be my guess seveneyes Mar 2014 #11
 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
1. All the IT contracting companies must be freaking out
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 07:09 PM
Mar 2014

Forcing IT workers to put in unpaid 60-plus-hour weeks is routine in the industry and has been for decades. They not only don't get overtime, they don't get regular pay.

This will provide companies with a nice excuse to lay off more American IT people and bring in more cheap foreign labor under the H1-B visa scam.

AZ Mike

(468 posts)
2. It would make sense to gripe if....
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 07:13 PM
Mar 2014

....the changes were discriminatory (e.g., to one group of businesses or type of industry), but it's a broad change for all employers across all industries. The fact of the matter is that this change will induce hiring - assuming that businesses want to meet the demands of their market.

Anything less is just employers cutting their noses off to spite their face.

If an employer has three employees working 52 hours per week with no O/T, they are receiving 1.3 weeks worth of labor for 1.0 week worth of pay. Those 1.3 days include the associated productivity of the time spent working. Therefore, the employer gains 3.9 weeks of productivity at 3.0 weeks of cost. If the employer wants to meet that productivity level to serve his or her market, he or she will need to hire someone to cover the 0.9 week of labor - otherwise, pay time and a half to the existing employees.

More time off or more money for existing workers. More demand in the economy. More customers to the business. More hiring.

It's a win-win in my view.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
3. I wonder what they would do with the military personnel
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 07:15 PM
Mar 2014

Goodness some work up to 80 hours a week easily. I wonder if they would exempt the military from these rules.

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
7. The military has never been subject to such regulations, for obvious reasons.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 07:37 PM
Mar 2014

You get 30 days paid leave a year, and Uncle Sam owns you the rest of the time, 24/7. I think LEO's and some other occupations are also exempt. I know my friend in the Border Patrol is already whining about it.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
10. Done
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:02 PM
Mar 2014

They whine every time any single thing is suggested to improve worker's rights and declare it the "end of my business!".

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
5. Of course they're whining ...
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 07:26 PM
Mar 2014

... they may actually be compelled to pay low wage workers for the hours they work! we can't have folk being paid for the hours they work

madville

(7,408 posts)
8. Here's how the employers handle it
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 07:53 PM
Mar 2014

Employee makes $50k a year salary and works 60 hours a week.

Convert $50k annual salary to an hourly rate of $14 an hour. 40 hours + 20 hours of time-and-a-half overtime = about $50k a year. Problem solved right?

Then during slow times they can cut the overtime and make $30k a year for their 40 hours, gets better and better for the employers.

Negative I know but they're already throwing it around I'm sure.

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
11. That would be my guess
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:03 PM
Mar 2014

And as usual, the middle class worker drops down another notch. Things should be getting better for the middle class since 2008, but I'm not seeing it.

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