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applegrove

(118,632 posts)
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:00 PM Mar 2014

New Evidence Suggests That Plane Disappearance Was A Deliberate Act

New Evidence Suggests That Plane Disappearance Was A Deliberate Act

by Paul Szoldra at Business Insider

http://www.businessinsider.com/mh370-deliberate-act-2014-3

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Sources speaking with ABC believe the data reporting system was shut down at 1:07 a.m., while the transponder — sending out location and altitude data — was shut down at 1:21 a.m.

U.S. investigators are "convinced that there was manual intervention," one source told ABC, indicating an accident is not the reason the plane vanished.

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With an accident becoming less likely (but not entirely ruled out), the scenarios for what happened could come down to a hijacking or actions taken by rogue crew members. One person close to the investigation told The Wall Street Journal that there could be a third possibility: The plane could have been diverted "with the intention of using it later for another purpose."

"That's been a possibility right from the start," Patrick Smith, an airline pilot and author, told Business Insider's Michael Kelley. "It's very unlikely, but I suppose it's conceivable."



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New Evidence Suggests That Plane Disappearance Was A Deliberate Act (Original Post) applegrove Mar 2014 OP
why is the US investigating? niyad Mar 2014 #1
We have resources Malaysia doesn't, I would assume. randome Mar 2014 #2
Expertise the Malaysians don't have. In all areas. Including communication. applegrove Mar 2014 #7
Americans on board as well... Lost_Count Mar 2014 #14
That's a pretty bizarre question. Boeing is U.S. company functioning_cog Mar 2014 #17
Because of international agreements the U.S. is automatically entitled to be there Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #18
The thought that someone may have commandeered that plane for use later "for another purpose" ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2014 #3
like 9-11 JI7 Mar 2014 #9
Like some Doris Lessing novel... Matariki Mar 2014 #21
I said this yesterday but was give a lot of $%#^ Iwasthere Mar 2014 #4
This far? We may be looking on the wrong planet. randome Mar 2014 #5
More than twice the range they are stating Iwasthere Mar 2014 #6
Sometimes you go with intuition and are alone for a bit. It's all good. applegrove Mar 2014 #8
Sweet~ Cha Mar 2014 #11
Thanks for that ... helps Iwasthere Mar 2014 #12
Me too. I wouldn't trade it for the world. Though it doesn't make life easy. applegrove Mar 2014 #13
Flight distance from Kuala Lumpur pscot Mar 2014 #10
Probably. moondust Mar 2014 #15
Would that depend on cell towers being around? nt Lex Mar 2014 #19
Don't know. moondust Mar 2014 #20
Cell phone jammers wheniwasincongress Mar 2014 #23
I wonder how many large-enough runways exist within the plane's flight range? LiberalEsto Mar 2014 #16
I'm leaning toward 2naSalit Mar 2014 #22
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
2. We have resources Malaysia doesn't, I would assume.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:03 PM
Mar 2014

Weren't there some Americans on board the flight? I think a lot of nations are investigating this.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]If you don't give yourself the same benefit of a doubt you'd give anyone else, you're being unfair.[/center][/font][hr]

applegrove

(118,632 posts)
7. Expertise the Malaysians don't have. In all areas. Including communication.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:10 PM
Mar 2014

The USA was in Canada for the Swiss Air 111 plane crash off Nova Scotia helping to investigate for years.

 

functioning_cog

(294 posts)
17. That's a pretty bizarre question. Boeing is U.S. company
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 11:09 PM
Mar 2014

There were American citizens aboard, U.S. possesses tremendous expertise around these types of investigations (NTSB) and Indonesia invited them.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
18. Because of international agreements the U.S. is automatically entitled to be there
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 11:23 PM
Mar 2014

because we are the country of origin the airframe manufacturer (Boeing)...There were also three U.S. citizens on board...

The Brits are there because they are the country of origin for the engine manufacturer (Rolls Royce)

China is involved because a large number of passengers were Chinese citizens, and the final destination was a Chinese airport

Vietnam is involved because it is (or was) theoretically the last controlled airspace the flight was confirmed to be...

FWIW, because of their vast resources and expertise, the USA, UK, France are frequently requested by smaller countries to investigate air crashes even if they don't have an 'official' stake...

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
3. The thought that someone may have commandeered that plane for use later "for another purpose"
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:03 PM
Mar 2014

is downright scary.

Iwasthere

(3,158 posts)
4. I said this yesterday but was give a lot of $%#^
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:04 PM
Mar 2014

I stated that the plane was on a deliberate path. The range was also far FAR greater than they are saying.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
5. This far? We may be looking on the wrong planet.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:08 PM
Mar 2014

[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]

pscot

(21,024 posts)
10. Flight distance from Kuala Lumpur
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:14 PM
Mar 2014

to Beijing is about 2700 miles. Airlines are weight conscious. They wouldn't load more fuel than necessary. Gives a range of about 2400 miles from point of last report.

moondust

(19,976 posts)
20. Don't know.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 11:48 PM
Mar 2014

The last plane I flew on was a 777 but that was some time ago. I didn't notice if it still had those airline pay phones on board. Maybe flight attendants still have something like that for ground communication in case of hijacking or emergencies.

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
16. I wonder how many large-enough runways exist within the plane's flight range?
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:40 PM
Mar 2014

That Boeing requires a huge runway in order to land safely, from what I've read.

It would probably be extremely difficult to conceal such a landing area from detection by satellite.

2naSalit

(86,574 posts)
22. I'm leaning toward
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 01:05 AM
Mar 2014

the "later use" idea. Somehow I get the feeling that there's something we aren't considering going on with the whole thing. There are certainly places that aircraft could land if you consider the places it could reach from it's departure location.

Depends on how crazy one might have thought the twin towers event was before it happened and what creative imagination might devise at this point in time. I don't automatically think that anyone claiming something "very unlikely" to be the absolute in a case like this.

Something is going on and we are not going to "get it" until it's too late, I'm sensing. interesting how long this "mystery" is remaining a mystery...

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