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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsElected Foreign Officials In the Dark About Their Own Spy Agencies’ Cooperation with NSA
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/article/2014/03/13/nsa-elected-officials-foreign-countries-unaware-countries-cooperation-us/One of the more bizarre aspects of the last nine months of Snowden revelations is how top political officials in other nations have repeatedly demonstrated, or even explicitly claimed, wholesale ignorance about their nations cooperation with the National Security Agency, as well as their own spying activities. This has led to widespread speculation about the authenticity of these reactions: Were these top officials truly unaware, or were they pretending to be, in order to distance themselves from surveillance operations that became highly controversial once disclosed?
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A new NSA document published today by The Intercept sheds considerable light on these questions. The classified document contains an internal NSA interview with an official from the SIGINT Operations Group in NSAs Foreign Affairs Directorate. Titled What Are We After with Our Third Party Relationships? And What Do They Want from Us, Generally Speaking?, the discussion explores the NSAs cooperative relationship with its surveillance partners. Upon being asked whether political shifts within those nations affect the NSAs relationships, the SIGINT official explains why such changes generally have no effect: because only a handful of military officials in those countries are aware of the spying activities. Few, if any, elected leaders have any knowledge of the surveillance.
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A new NSA document published today by The Intercept sheds considerable light on these questions. The classified document contains an internal NSA interview with an official from the SIGINT Operations Group in NSAs Foreign Affairs Directorate. Titled What Are We After with Our Third Party Relationships? And What Do They Want from Us, Generally Speaking?, the discussion explores the NSAs cooperative relationship with its surveillance partners. Upon being asked whether political shifts within those nations affect the NSAs relationships, the SIGINT official explains why such changes generally have no effect: because only a handful of military officials in those countries are aware of the spying activities. Few, if any, elected leaders have any knowledge of the surveillance.
Are our foreign intelligence relationships usually insulated from short-term political ups and downs, or not?
(S//SI//REL) For a variety of reasons, our intelligence relationships are rarely disrupted by foreign political perturbations, international or domestic. First, we are helping our partners address critical intelligence shortfalls, just as they are assisting us. Second, in many of our foreign partners capitals, few senior officials outside of their defense-intelligence apparatuses are witting to any SIGINT connection to the U.S./NSA [emphasis added].
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Elected Foreign Officials In the Dark About Their Own Spy Agencies’ Cooperation with NSA (Original Post)
Luminous Animal
Mar 2014
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As Greenwald pointed out, Truman warned us about this wholly undemocratic relationship.
Luminous Animal
Mar 2014
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I have to say that I am shocked that there are no comments that surveillance orgs
Luminous Animal
Mar 2014
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Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)1. As Greenwald pointed out, Truman warned us about this wholly undemocratic relationship.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)2. I have to say that I am shocked that there are no comments that surveillance orgs
totally bypass democratic constraints world wide. And, I think, most likely in the U.S.