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(19,768 posts)
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 01:04 AM Mar 2014

Should Crimea referendum be viewed as the will of the people, or a forced charade under threat?

Should it be viewed as legitimate, or theater?


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The vote will clearly reflect the will of the people.
2 (40%)
It might be tainted to a degree, but still should be respected.
1 (20%)
Further regional and world input is needed before any such referendum.
0 (0%)
It is a show the people are forced into at the point of a gun.
2 (40%)
Other.
0 (0%)
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Should Crimea referendum be viewed as the will of the people, or a forced charade under threat? (Original Post) Skip Intro Mar 2014 OP
'Nothing Should Be Done At This Point Without Regional And World Input' Is My View, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2014 #1
I tweaked that response to stay on the topic of the referendum. Skip Intro Mar 2014 #3
Thank You, Sir, And I Stand By My Vote Here Still In The Altered Form The Magistrate Mar 2014 #8
Without international, neutral observers, the vote is worthless. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #2
The ballot in Crimea does not even offer the "no" option. SunSeeker Mar 2014 #4
This vote in 3 days is a mockery functioning_cog Mar 2014 #5
Yes. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2014 #6
It is absolute bullshit. Jenoch Mar 2014 #7
Without independent observers? moondust Mar 2014 #9
History will decide that. n/t bluedigger Mar 2014 #10

The Magistrate

(95,241 posts)
1. 'Nothing Should Be Done At This Point Without Regional And World Input' Is My View, Sir
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 01:08 AM
Mar 2014

I expect Russia will come out of this with the Crimea, mind, though the only right they have to it is might --- but that will probably suffice.

Skip Intro

(19,768 posts)
3. I tweaked that response to stay on the topic of the referendum.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 01:10 AM
Mar 2014

I believe it carries the same meaning as before, but wanted to let you know.

I agree that Russia will come out of this with Crimea, and I'm under the impression that would be fine with most in Crimea.

The Magistrate

(95,241 posts)
8. Thank You, Sir, And I Stand By My Vote Here Still In The Altered Form
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 02:20 AM
Mar 2014

I agree that a goodly portion of Crimea's residents would not much object to being part of Russia, though I suspect there would have been no push for this, even after the collapse of the previous government in Kiev, without a good deal of whipping up by Mr. Putin's apparatus.

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
2. Without international, neutral observers, the vote is worthless.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 01:09 AM
Mar 2014

Not that such a truth makes it our business.

SunSeeker

(51,497 posts)
4. The ballot in Crimea does not even offer the "no" option.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 01:59 AM
Mar 2014

As Andrea Mitchell explained on Rachel tonight, the only two options on the ballot are (1) secede/join with Russia or (2) go back to the 1991 constitution, which is just a slower road to joining with Russia. There is no "none of the above"/"do nothing" option on the Crimean ballot.

 

functioning_cog

(294 posts)
5. This vote in 3 days is a mockery
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 02:04 AM
Mar 2014

The region is being heavily propagandized by Russia. Russian military are harrassing people, setting up military checkpoints, and rushing a vote.

moondust

(19,954 posts)
9. Without independent observers?
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 02:22 AM
Mar 2014

Or unfettered, independent news coverage?

Let's see...who was it that said: "The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything."

Hmmm... Some guy in the Kremlin I guess.

How much has Ukraine invested in Crimea over the years? Does Ukraine supply utilities, etc., to the peninsula? Will Ukraine receive a buyout from Russia for their properties and investments?

Should Chechnya be allowed to have a similar referendum? How about the separatists that threatened the Olympics? Moldova? Taiwan? Tibet? Southern/red states in the U.S.?

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