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warrprayer

(4,734 posts)
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 02:32 PM Mar 2014

Rabbi Attacked in Kiev

"Rabbi hurt in Kiev attack wife calls anti-Semitic"

Racheli Cohen, wife of rabbi Hillel Cohen, said Thursday's attack by two men on her husband was clearly an anti-Semitic act. "They struck him in the leg, shouting anti-Semitic slurs," she told the Jewish Telegraphic Agency (JTA).

Kiev police, quoted by Interfax-Ukraine news agency, said they were looking for two men who shouted anti-Jewish insults at the rabbi and struck him with sticks before making off in a car.

Jewish leaders have warned of a risk of anti-Semitic violence due to general instability in the country.

But many play down the importance of far-right groups that had a role in the uprising, some of which admire nationalists who at times during World War Two joined forces with invading Nazi troops.

Last month, a provincial synagogue was firebombed and there were some assaults on Jews in the streets in previous months."


http://news.yahoo.com/rabbi-hurt-kiev-attack-wife-calls-anti-semitic-182847164.html

Nope, no Nazis in Kiev! It's all Russian propaganda!




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Rabbi Attacked in Kiev (Original Post) warrprayer Mar 2014 OP
Why didn't he listen and flee ? jakeXT Mar 2014 #1
I take it his position warrprayer Mar 2014 #2
Blame the victim. former9thward Mar 2014 #21
Yes...they can, in fact, all flee to Israel if they wish and can get out... PCIntern Mar 2014 #3
I'm not Jewish.... warrprayer Mar 2014 #6
I therefore would be proud to call you my friend... PCIntern Mar 2014 #17
You are spelling it corectly nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #19
Me too. AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #23
I hope you aren't holding your breath. Behind the Aegis Mar 2014 #9
Don't hold your breath malaise Mar 2014 #20
And you have proof these goons havent been paid by Russia. snagglepuss Mar 2014 #4
can't prove... warrprayer Mar 2014 #5
who's saying there are no Neo-Nazis in Ukraine? dlwickham Mar 2014 #7
The neo-nazi party in Kiev warrprayer Mar 2014 #8
I haven't seen a single poster say there weren't neo-Nazis. Behind the Aegis Mar 2014 #10
It's safe to say that no one raising this now for the first time cares about oppression of Jews. stevenleser Mar 2014 #11
And in for the win! Behind the Aegis Mar 2014 #12
If you really want to vomit, search on my name and RT or CrossTalk on Youtube and read the comments stevenleser Mar 2014 #13
If they knew you were an ally to the GLBT movement, it'd really feed their hate. Behind the Aegis Mar 2014 #14
I think I mentioned it on the air on RT once, about 6-8 months before the law was passed. stevenleser Mar 2014 #18
Too bad that the guy in the black shirt is there. Ruins the effect. Igel Mar 2014 #15
The photo is from a November article regarding an Odessa attack where attackers spoke Russian stevenleser Mar 2014 #16
These assholes could be pro-Putin for all we know. AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #22

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
1. Why didn't he listen and flee ?
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 02:39 PM
Mar 2014

Ukrainian rabbi tells Kiev's Jews to flee city


Ukrainian Rabbi Moshe Reuven Azman, called on Kiev's Jews to leave the city and even the country if possible, fearing that the city's Jews will be victimized in the chaos, Israeli daily Maariv reported Friday.

"I told my congregation to leave the city center or the city all together and if possible the country too," Rabbi Azman told Maariv. "I don't want to tempt fate," he added, "but there are constant warnings concerning intentions to attack Jewish institutions."

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/1.575732

warrprayer

(4,734 posts)
2. I take it his position
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 02:44 PM
Mar 2014

Last edited Sat Mar 15, 2014, 03:23 PM - Edit history (1)

he is part of the emergency defense group in Kiev, or at least that is what I gathered.

"The chairman of Hatzalah-Kiev, Rabbi Hillel Cohen, was attacked last night by anonymous assailants that stabbed him in the leg and fled the scene of the crime."

http://www.jerusalemonline.com/news/world-news/the-jewish-world/prominent-rabbi-suffered-from-an-anti-semitic-attack-in-kiev-4292?utm_source=contactology&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=DailyNewsletter

PCIntern

(25,532 posts)
3. Yes...they can, in fact, all flee to Israel if they wish and can get out...
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 02:51 PM
Mar 2014

since Israel accepts all Jews of any country without quota. Of course, only if that's OK with some of the people around here. I don't expect to hear too much from some of our fellow posters who are quick draw/hair trigger when it comes to certain Mideast issues. I await the outpouring of sympathy for this rabbi from them. And will continue to await it.

Furthermore, I didn't see like 200 posts supporting the Israeli hospitals which are taking care of the wounded Syrian children. Very quiet........................

warrprayer

(4,734 posts)
6. I'm not Jewish....
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 02:58 PM
Mar 2014

... but God forbid if it ever comes to it, I hope I can be counted as one of the "righteous Goyem", if I am spelling and using the term correctly. All forms of Nazis and fascism make my bile rise to my mouth.

PCIntern

(25,532 posts)
17. I therefore would be proud to call you my friend...
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 04:19 PM
Mar 2014

these others, and they know who I mean, well, I really shouldn't say...

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
19. You are spelling it corectly
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 08:00 PM
Mar 2014

and that is exactly what one does.

I will want to add just a small note. Like WW II, it will not be just Jews, unfortunately.

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
4. And you have proof these goons havent been paid by Russia.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 02:52 PM
Mar 2014

We already know the Russians had Yanokovitch in their back pocket and that they have millions to throw around.

dlwickham

(3,316 posts)
7. who's saying there are no Neo-Nazis in Ukraine?
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 03:11 PM
Mar 2014

but I have to wonder how many are on the Russian payroll

Behind the Aegis

(53,951 posts)
10. I haven't seen a single poster say there weren't neo-Nazis.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 03:53 PM
Mar 2014

There are also neo-Nazis in Russia. I saw this story and this may be part of the on-going situation or just a continuation of the historic anti-Semitism in Ukraine. Did people really think anti-Semitism would suddenly dry up? I find all the faux concern stomach churning.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
11. It's safe to say that no one raising this now for the first time cares about oppression of Jews.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 03:57 PM
Mar 2014

This has been a massive problem in Eastern Europe for a long time. There is a reason tons of Eastern European Jews have migrated to the US and Israel.

This needs to be addressed, but it is not an excuse for Russian invasions. Russia has a HUGE job to do to clean up virulent anti-semitism in their own country first.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
13. If you really want to vomit, search on my name and RT or CrossTalk on Youtube and read the comments
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 04:01 PM
Mar 2014

tons of comments from eastern european sounding usernames talking about how I am bad because I am probably Jewish.

Behind the Aegis

(53,951 posts)
14. If they knew you were an ally to the GLBT movement, it'd really feed their hate.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 04:03 PM
Mar 2014

I avoid YouTube and Yahoo! messages if I can help it.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
18. I think I mentioned it on the air on RT once, about 6-8 months before the law was passed.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 06:59 PM
Mar 2014

The host quickly brushed it off and went to another subject.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
15. Too bad that the guy in the black shirt is there. Ruins the effect.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 04:08 PM
Mar 2014

The shirt proudly says, "I'm Russian."

Sort of kills the idea that all fascists are obligatorily Ukrainian.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
16. The photo is from a November article regarding an Odessa attack where attackers spoke Russian
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 04:13 PM
Mar 2014
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0%2C7340%2CL-4452331%2C00.html

You are right. This does not indicate what folks seem to hope it does.
 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
22. These assholes could be pro-Putin for all we know.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 08:57 PM
Mar 2014

BTW, there are also a fair number of neo-Nazis in Russia and most of them seem to be pretty friendly with Vlad and his United Russia party.....or at least, they don't have an issue with him.

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