Do YOU recognize that Crimea is now a part of Russia?

[charlie and algernon]

7 votes, 1 pass | Time left: Unlimited
	YES
	3 (43%)
	NO
	3 (43%)
	I don't now, but would if the US or the West ever recognize it.
	0 (0%)
	Some other grey area, which I'll explain below.
	1 (14%)
	1 DU member did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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[snooper2]

1. nobody here is in a position to answer that question

[demwing]

5. Sure we are - we were only asked to offer our opinion

Everyone on DU is an expert at that

[valerief]

2. What difference does it make to me one way or the other? nt

[steve2470]

3. not sure of international law in this regard

I await commentary by people versed in international law.

[el_bryanto]

4. The Great State of Bryantopia stands with the brave people of Crimea against this tyranny

I don't really know what's going on, but if I remember my Rocky IV correctly, the Russians are brutal monsters with bad haircuts.

Bryant

[rtracey]

6. do we care?

My question is do we care that Crimea is part of Russia? It was until 1953(?). The thing that I believe is the people of Crimea pbasically gave up freedom for a police state... but thats what they wanted, so though Sh*t.

[geek tragedy]

7. yes, because my opinion carries no weight nt

[Erose999]

8. I recognize anything that will prevent our involvement in another dumbfuck war. War can suck my cock

[Motown_Johnny]

9. Yes, and in many ways it always was.

The majority of people there self identify as Russian. It was part of the Soviet Union, until it broke up. There is still a naval base there.


There also is no way Russia is going to give it up. There won't be some popular uprising because so many citizens there want to join the Russian Federation.


Crimea is now part of Russia. That is a done deal. Everything going on now is posturing to try and stop any other portions of the Ukraine being annexed by Russia.


Sooner or later everyone will recognize Crimea as part of Russia, it is just a matter of time.

[quinnox]

10. Sure, why not? Not that my opinion as an American means anything in this situation.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

11. Yes. As do most of the people of Crimea.

[brooklynite]

12. I recognize that that Crimea is part of Russia because I recognize reality...

I don't recognize that the merger was done fairly and Democratically.

[cthulu2016]

13. Bad poll. Individuals do not "recognize" in that sense.

In the sense that individuals recognize, yes... I see and understand that Russia has annexed Crimea.

In the sense that nations recognize... if I were a nation I would not recognize Crimea as part of Russia.

[2banon]

14. Uh yeah.. The Reunification is definitely Official, with the support of the majority of Crimeans....

and I accept that fact.

Now let's cease and desist throwing billions and billions of dollars in efforts to engineer election results in fledgling democracies, engaging in fomenting riots and uprisings and all other manner of interferences, courtesy of the U.Sl taxpayers, and deal with problems here in the U.S.

[Autumn]

15. The Crimean people voted yes, so who am I to disagree with their decision.

[ProSense]

16. Progressives for Putin

justifying an the illegal invasion of a country, voting by gunpoint and without the presence of election observers.

Spin: "self-determination."

Reality: Only someone gullible would believe Putin is interested in "democracy."

Hey, but illegal invasions are now equal to "democracy." Isn't that the Bush doctrine?

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European Union foreign ministers joined the U.S. on Monday in issuing its own set of sanctions against Russian and Ukrainian officials. The full list from Europe will include 21 individuals, which includes some overlap with the American list, and be released to the public on Tuesday, the adminstration officials told the press.

A third senior administration official pointed to the many irregularities in the Crimean vote as a sign of its illegitimacy. While the ballots only offered a choice of either joining Russia or becoming more independent from Ukraine, reports indicate that several ballots were “pre-marked,” according to the official. And according to a comparison of the most recent census data from Sevastapol and polling data, 123 percent of the city’s population voted on Sunday. In addition, 99 percent of the region’s Tatars ethnic minority declined to vote, boycotting what they said was a sham poll.

Also troubling is that no recognized international election monitors took part in the referendum. Russian-sponsored media touted the participation of several invited observers — including one who went on a lengthy diatribe against American involvement in Crimea — but none accredited with the Organisaton for Security and Cooperation in Europe or the United Nations. Tellingly, Crimean officials have declared that there were zero incidents of fraud or difficulties in voting reported to their electoral commission.

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http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/03/17/3411201/crimea-votes-response/

If Putin wanted this to be on the up and up, he wouldn't have shut out election observers.

EU statement on Crimea
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024680231

[LostOne4Ever]

17. In what sense do you mean?

Do you mean do I recognize it as being legitimate?　No.

Do you mean I recognize it as in that it now controlled by the Russian government? Yes.

[NuclearDem]

18. About as much as I recognize Bush was elected in 2000.