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applegrove

(118,622 posts)
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 04:09 PM Mar 2014

Does the cockpit of the 777 get recycled

air from the rest of the plane? Could the whole plane have been gassed with something almost instantaneous? Just enough time for the plane to be reprogramed but not enough time to contact air traffic control. Especially if the fumes were so noxious you immediately would not want to take a breath to speak.

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Does the cockpit of the 777 get recycled (Original Post) applegrove Mar 2014 OP
Yes, air is recirculated throughout the aircraft. NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #1
The theories get weirder and weirder. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2014 #2
cockpit. I meant cockpit. Yes, probably electrical fire applegrove Mar 2014 #3
The problem with the electrical fire theory The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2014 #4
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
1. Yes, air is recirculated throughout the aircraft.
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 04:19 PM
Mar 2014

I was reading earlier that an electrical fire might be the most logical theory that can explain the various electrical failures over a period of time.

Also, a very gradual loss in pressure could account for unconsciousness setting in without any alarms going off.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
2. The theories get weirder and weirder.
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 04:24 PM
Mar 2014

Large airplanes get air needed to pressurize them (so you can breathe) by drawing compressed air from the engines, which is then processed by the air conditioning/pressurization system and fed into the cabin and cockpit. A big jet like a 777 would have several zones so the temperature could be adjusted as necessary for each area, but the cabin (passenger compartment) and the cockpit all get air from the same source. To some extent the air is recycled; some of it is also exhausted overboard to control a fairly constant pressure level inside the plane. It is highly unlikely that anyone could deliberately introduce any kind of toxic substance into that system, although smoke and fumes could incapacitate passengers and crew if there were a fire. That's what happened in this case: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swissair_Flight_111

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
4. The problem with the electrical fire theory
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 04:36 PM
Mar 2014

is that most of the time there will be some warning - they would smell or see a little smoke at first, as in the Swissair accident in the link, above, and there probably would be enough time to call ATC and declare an emergency before things got so bad that they lost electrical power and/or became incapacitated. So, while maybe it's possible, it just doesn't seem to fit with the way those things would be expected to happen. It's quite a mystery.

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