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reformist2

(9,841 posts)
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 05:28 PM Mar 2014

The Ukraine might want to think about dividing along these lines.

A red/blue division seems pretty obvious, and it would make for a reasonable border between the New Ukraine and Russia. Most importantly, it would allow more people to see their interests realized - culturally, linguistically, politically.

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The Ukraine might want to think about dividing along these lines. (Original Post) reformist2 Mar 2014 OP
But I thought Putin had no interest in East Ukraine? Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2014 #1
Is it a matter of what Putin wants dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #5
Why do you call it The Ukraine? AngryAmish Mar 2014 #2
Because it's nothing but Little Russia, of course. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2014 #3
So when 90% of the Ukranian people voted to remain independent of Russia... joeybee12 Mar 2014 #4
Hmmmmmmmmmm. Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #6
People using lingusitic differences as a dividing mark are overplaying their hand. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2014 #7
Stop doing this piecemeal BeyondGeography Mar 2014 #8
I don't think they'd want to become landlocked. CFLDem Mar 2014 #9
No kidding. nt laundry_queen Mar 2014 #11
Yanukovych doesn't even favor annexation by Russia. dumb post nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #10
Yeah, really. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #12
He's impeached. Igel Mar 2014 #14
Better yet... moondust Mar 2014 #13
I have no words for this, in any language cthulu2016 Mar 2014 #15
 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
4. So when 90% of the Ukranian people voted to remain independent of Russia...
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 05:40 PM
Mar 2014

on a referendum in 1991 when they broke off from the crumbling Soviet Union, we should just ignore what they want...your map is shit...the red parts are people who are happy with closer ties to Russia, but even they don't want to be part of Russia.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,131 posts)
7. People using lingusitic differences as a dividing mark are overplaying their hand.
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 05:46 PM
Mar 2014

The thing about East Ukraine is that while there are a lot of Russian speakers in that region, many still consider themselves ethnically Ukrainian and have no desire to join up with Russia. A lot of them speak Russian by default because it was the only language taught to them when they were growing up.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
12. Yeah, really.
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 07:11 PM
Mar 2014

So what happens if Yanukovych returns to Ukraine? Does he now preside over a diminished nation or will Russia give back Crimea?

Igel

(35,268 posts)
14. He's impeached.
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 07:24 PM
Mar 2014

He won't preside over much of anything. Even most of his own party in the legislature voted against him and counted him an embarrassment for the way he treated them.

moondust

(19,954 posts)
13. Better yet...
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 07:22 PM
Mar 2014

why not ask the Russians living in other countries to move back to Russia if they don't like it where they are?

Should Americans living abroad expect the U.S. government to "annex" the land they have chosen to occupy there? Parts of Mexico maybe? Deploy troops if necessary?

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
15. I have no words for this, in any language
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 07:26 PM
Mar 2014

I am shocked by the post... but too stunned to really comment sensibly

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