Thanks Admins! Socks folded and put away

[SwampG8r]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=298088&sub=trans

[City Lights]

1. Interesting.

Very, very interesting.

Thanks for the info.

[FSogol]

2. I wonder if the admins discovered him using FSogol's Sock quiz?

Do you usually come in pairs?
Do you sometimes get lost in the dryer?
If you get a hole in you, does someone throw you away?
If you don't stay up, are you sometimes called a quitter?
Do you look silly if someone wears you with sandals?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4413791

[snooper2]

3. well, at least he/she never called the president a piece of fucking shit

there's that

[NYC_SKP]

4. + 1

Some more equal than others.

[Scuba]

5. Nope, a true worshiper was pretz.

[2banon]

56. I'm a bit confused.. can someone please spell out in full the poster in question's user name ? eom

Are the letters "PW" the intitials of the banned user?

it may be someone i had to put on ignore for a user starting with a P and second part with a W.. since everyone is being a bit cryptic it seems, i guess it's against the rules to actually spell out the name even after banishment?

[grahamhgreen]

59. Pretzel Warrior

[2banon]

62. Thank you, Interesting..I finally had to put him on ignore.. good to know eom

[Puzzledtraveller]

68. Wow, the pretzel man got it?

I was sure he was just Jay Carney incognito.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

7. Only certain privileged characters are allowed to break the rules without consequence. nt

[truebrit71]

26. One ProFessional one in particular..

...seems to be totally immune...

[Sheepshank]

35. what makes someone a professional?

and do you have proof?

If we are going my numbers of posts...I don't think that will work. Several persons with varying degrees of Obama love/hate/disappointment, share huge number of posts.

If they are paid, what proof do you have for any of them?

If there is a passion......that makes them a professional? And that professional has several handles?

Vague, pissy little accusations because someone doesn't like posting habits, is just inane.

[truebrit71]

36. LOL!!!

[morningfog]

108. There are a very few that are obviously posting here out of obligation, duty or compensation.

It is glaringly obvious, but not common. There are only 3 that I could say I am certain are here to message control.

The rest are just passionate or followers or enthusiastic volunteers. I have no problem with them. The few that are here as part of their job, I consider trolls. They should at least have the guts to be honest and transparent about it.

[BlueStreak]

127. It is reasonable to consider a person's full body of work

I don't see where the person who seemingly embraced warring about everything using pretzel-like reasoning added anything to this site. Three are plenty of people I disagree with, but few who bring such little value to this site as PW.

If the comparison is with Will Pitt, I don't think it is "special treatment" to bear in mind the many valuable contributions he has made here, even if one post if found to be offensive.

[Egnever]

131. Do you include in that body of work

his two previous bannings?

[BlueStreak]

134. If you are talking about Pretzel Warrior, he was a troll, nothing more

He has no body of work other than trolling, and this site is a better place with him gone.

If you are talking about Will Pitt, he has a significant body of work.

[Egnever]

135. Not talking about pretzel

Will was banned twice before.

[BlueStreak]

137. I don't have an opinion about that

because I am not aware of the circumstances. I stand by the point of considering the cumulative body of work. That doesn't mean that a person should get unlimited free passes, but I don't think you use the same standards for obvious trolls that you use for people who are net contributors and also ruffle feathers along the way.

[Egnever]

139. Oh I dont know

one of the beginnings was for threatening another DUer. I think body of work should include things like that.

[Whisp]

10. ++++

!!!

That one has privileges no one else on the site has. for some odd reason.

[truebrit71]

16. Huh???

Who said that?

[snooper2]

20. Check the GD thread that has close to 600 replies already

The OP got kicked out of it of course LOL

[badtoworse]

87. If it's over his wife's MS meds not being covered under ACA, he's got a right to be pissed.

[truebrit71]

25. ...but that's not the full quote though is it?

.."fucking piece of shit used-car salesman"....is what was actually written..

Slightly different, no?

[geek tragedy]

66. not really. It's personal hatred masquerading as policy critiques.

There are those who blame every misfortune in their lives on Obama on both the left and right.

[Capt. Obvious]

98. Partisanship can make people stupid.

[geek tragedy]

106. so can stupidity nt

[no name no slogan]

118. Not me. I still insist on blaming THE CLENIS

Give me the classics any day over this newfangled Obama shit.

[Inkfreak]

29. True story. Unreal. (nt)

[Cha]

105. yeah, can't wait for his next installment of why he "fuck you mr president with all my heart and

soul". "pos used car salesman" schtick.

[Jamaal510]

120. +3

[Cirque du So-What]

6. All I can say is

What took ye so long? Admins had to have known straightaway that PW was a sock, so why in pluperfect hell did they allow him to troll DU - again - for another lengthy stretch? Sometimes I wonder whether a certain amount of trollery is tolerated to 'keep things lively'

[Ms. Toad]

17. Actually, the PPR doesn't say PW was a sock.

It says he created one in order to get around being suspended from posting. So if PW was a sock (in addition to creating one), that has not yet been acknowledged).

[Cirque du So-What]

21. OK

Still, the lifespan of trolls on DU is sometimes astounding.

[Ms. Toad]

23. Yup. n/t

[progressoid]

34. here's the sock

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=306317

[Ichingcarpenter]

57. His alter ego was even worse right wing nonsense

didn't know that was him.


I'm sure he'll turn up as a hydra again

[Ms. Toad]

63. I followed that trail -

but there is a difference between being a sock (which the poster I was responding to thought should have been identified a long time ago), and having a sock.

[1000words]

80. Cog, no longer functioning!

Pretzel, stale and discarded.

[TeeYiYi]

84. Never misunderestimigate the power of a stale pretzel...

TYY

[1000words]

85. LOL ... Or 12 year-old scotch.

[PowerToThePeople]

24. I have been wondering the same thing

this one was super obvious from the get go. There are others that have been allowed to stay too.

Maybe they do just want a certain amount of "pot stirring." I am not sure otherwise why this rightward shift of DU over the years since 09 has happened.

[morningfog]

110. Pot stirring and flame bait generate more clicks, more responses, more ad revenue.

I'm not suggesting it is an intentional business model, but certain levels of controversy or pot stirring help the site sustain itself. Some posters just can't do that within the bounds. Some only occasionally go too far.

The rightward shift is a mix of centrist dems taking control and unlocking the gungeon.

[cui bono]

132. The rightward shift is due to the fact that we have a centrist Dem president and a fanatical

group of apologists. And rightward shift is correct as they are just like the right in their binary thinking, lack of substantive arguments, for us or against us mentality, hostility, ridicule and RW inspired memes.

[G_j]

8. PW was here for a long time

strange...

[cyberswede]

13. Only since Dec 2012, actually.

It just seemed like a long time.

[G_j]

14. LOL

sure did!

[Autumn]

22. He had changed the way he spelled his name in 2012

he was here long before that.

[cyberswede]

28. Oh yeah... I remember that now.

[NuclearDem]

60. Back during his pink unicorn days.

[TroglodyteScholar]

113. Bingo...

PW was one of those who finally pushed me into using the user ignore function again.

[NOVA_Dem]

9. I'm surprised about this one. n/t

[1000words]

11. Poster trundled around like a self-appointed hall monitor

One less loyalist crusader.

[Autumn]

12. Serious ???

About damn time.

The Straight Story has a photoshop that would be so so perfect here

[one_voice]

15. I'm stealing that picture.

[Autumn]

19. It is damn cute isn't it? I DU mailed another member

because he has a photo shop that would be perfect for this thread. But I hesitate to use it without his permission.

[LuvNewcastle]

18. This is a pleasant surprise. Thanks for the heads-up and thanks to the admins.

[Starry Messenger]

27. He ought to have been nuked the instant he showed up here again.

He got banned *under the same name* for calling LGBT rights "fabulous pink ponies" on DU2 and was totally unapologetic about it when he slithered back here.

I realize the Admins are pursuing an elastic policy for zombies, but some people will just make DU suck no matter what incarnation they appear in. Their viewpoints are toxic.

[Sheldon Cooper]

31. I did not know that.

He was one of the chief self-appointed "feminist-baiters", but I didn't realize he was also an anti-lgbt bigot. Somehow that doesn't surprise me. Good riddance.

[Starry Messenger]

38. Here's a DU2 thread showing the aftermath of him using the phrase.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8730545

He was a serial dick.

[Sheldon Cooper]

51. A BIG serial dick.

I can't read the deleted posts, but the ones that weren't deleted explained it pretty well. Why the hell was he *ever* allowed back?

[Starry Messenger]

52. I don't know.

I got some shit in the hosts forum for suggesting he be banned over something he'd posted here last year, when I was helping with hosting GD. He had his fans, I guess.

[Sheldon Cooper]

54. Oh he had LOTS of friends among a certain group here, but

I'm surprised that the owners allowed him to stay on.

[pintobean]

114. Thanks

I never knew why he was tombstoned the first time.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

83. THIS. nt

[Number23]

97. I was perplexed by his posts in the white privilege threads talking about how "well thought out"

the denials of white privilege were. so maybe I shouldn't have been.

[Starry Messenger]

104. I can't find his old posts on that now.

I just remember when he declared he was bored with the topic and started trolling people still discussing white privilege.

[pintobean]

30. That sock was created on Thu Jul 25, 2013

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=306317
That was before the announcement of the time-outs. That makes me wonder if he has more socks.

[hrmjustin]

47. He does.

[Zorra]

126. Yep. And clueless about his tells.

[hrmjustin]

130. Yes he just doesn't get it.

The question becomes does he have older socks.

[cui bono]

133. The other question is why can't he behave like normal socks

and get lost in the laundry?

[hrmjustin]

136. Lol! Wish he would.

The good thing is he always unmasks himself here or at the cave.

[Vashta Nerada]

53. It looks like he posted under that sock yesterday to get around the suspension:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4682869

[morningfog]

111. No doubt he does, and will make more. He has an unhealthy obsession with being a prick on DU.

Some people collect stamps, some act like a total asshole on anonymous message boards.

[bullwinkle428]

32. Zombies everywhere!

[pipi_k]

33. Well...there's a certain

strange irony here...

The hidden post of Dec 27th (on his transparency page) compared to the reason why he just got nuked.

[Autumn]

39. Here's a strange irony.

He was outed while posting under the name Washington conservative at the conservative cave.

[pintobean]

49. PW actually posted at cc

around that time. He joined as WashingtonConservative, but when they figured out who he was, their admin changed his user name to PretzelWarrior. He was linking back here and talking about other DUers. I had a post hidden for calling him out on it. A former MIRT member alerted on me for it. She also called me out in the hosts group for alerting on one of his OPs.

Funny thing - she got away with having a sock to get around restrictions on her account. She also went at least two rounds at cc.

[Autumn]

64. Yeah. You got that right

[pipi_k]

70. Wow that's

some really bizarre shit there.

although I wouldn't say we have seen the last of him. Or her.

I always thought he was a he, for some reason.

[pintobean]

71. PW was a he

The one who alerted on me, was a host and MIRT member, and was trying to protect him while trashing me, is a she.

Sorry, my writing skills suck.

[Autumn]

86. I bet both are back at the cave.

[pipi_k]

92. No problem... n/t

[Capt. Obvious]

99. Did that person who created a sock to get around restrictions get banned?

[pintobean]

102. Nope

[Capt. Obvious]

103. Huh, that's odd

I thought they would be consistent on that.

[Bonobo]

115. I know who you are talking about.

Piece of work, she is.

[BainsBane]

121. I hear she is one of those radfems

who has the nerve to believe women are human beings. Imagine letting someone like that out in public unsupervised.

[Bonobo]

122. Really? Can you believe my post was alerted on as a callout???

With no names? A callout? Wow! Incredible!


(this time I was number 5)

10:19 PM
Automated Message

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service

On Thu Mar 20, 2014, 10:12 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

I know who you are talking about.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4695462

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Mean guy gosssip makes DU suck. Also amounts to a personal insult against a member and whining about DU
administrators for not. Banning who Bonobo and Pintobean want banned.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Mar 20, 2014, 10:19 PM, and the Jury voted 3-3 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: "Mean guy gossip". That's funny. How many posts just like this appear in a particular protected group? There is nothing hidable here.
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Takes one to know one.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Agree with the alerter, this is a call out. If you have an issue with someone, put them on ignore. That's what it's for.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: meh
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I have no earthly idea what this is about. But I don't see a violation of TOS in this post, no names, no demeaning insults, certainly not over the top. Maybe a few insiders do, I don't know. But I do know that the jury system has been and is being abused for personal vendettas and score-setting. I choose not to give my consent to that abuse of the alert system.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[pintobean]

123. Nothing like having your point proven.

[Bonobo]

124. Yes, for example like a caver returning to the cave even after a vigorous defense by a MIRTer.

You must feel vindicated after having your own motivation so called into question.

[pintobean]

128. Luckily for DU

that MIRTer "resigned" shortly after that.

[Bonobo]

129. Wrongway Feldman. I loved that episode. nt

[In_The_Wind]

140. Juror number 5 checking in. IMO: Juror #6 nailed it.

[img][/img] [img][/img] [img][/img]

So glad you were able to put the information I sent you by PM to good use.

Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I have no earthly idea what this is about. But I don't see a violation of TOS in this post, no names, no demeaning insults, certainly not over the top. Maybe a few insiders do, I don't know. But I do know that the jury system has been and is being abused for personal vendettas and score-setting. I choose not to give my consent to that abuse of the alert system.

[pintobean]

141. Yup. And, the alert has a familiar trait.

Lies. Bonobo didn't whine about anything and no one said anything about wanting anyone banned. I simply stated some facts.

[In_The_Wind]

142. And ... alert patterns (wording plus the time of an alert) usually provide info ...

about the alert stalking [img][/img] that isn't happening to the BOMBG.
(Bullseye On My Back Group)
Also just stating the obvious facts. Cause I'm not whining here.

[pintobean]

143. It's a shame

there's no edit window for alerts.

Love the BOMB group name.

It could also be the Bomb Squad (BS) or the Glass House Gang.

[In_The_Wind]

145. Thanks

I tried a different one (TOMBG = Target on my back group, in the Men's Group) but that didn't fly.

The GHG ~ Glass House Gang also has possibilities.

[Seeking Serenity]

144. At the risk of installing a target on my back by outing myself,

I was Juror No. 6 on this alert. So, In The Wind, I thank you for your props.

And I stand by my statement. While I appreciate the democratic (small d) overtones of allowing juries of our peers to decide on questionable or doubtful posts, I do think the system is being abused by some (I won't say who, because, frankly, I don't know who) as a means of attempting to get DUers who other DUers either don't like or have a disagreement with or whatever suspended or at worse PPR'd for no other reason than they just don't like them or they disagree with a deeply held belief. And I choose not to give my consent to the abuse of the system in that way.

Now, am I right in my perception of all this?

[In_The_Wind]

146. Again (IMO) you are 100% correct in your perception.

Mebbe the 7 member jury will help.
I'm not going to point fingers at any one person or group because the Admins are aware of exactly who is alerting on who. A 6-0 decision to leave a post gives the person doing the alert a 24 hour time out. But the odds are that same person spends a lot of time doing alerts. I remember my first term as a GD Host ... there was one member who would alert ten or more times per day. We laughed about the alerts as we dealt with the problem.

[Seeking Serenity]

147. 10 or more times a day just on alerts?

Geez, I'd love to have that much free time on my hands. As it happens (as reflected by the fact that I'm celebrating my 10th anniversary as a poster here at DU but still only have some 2,100 posts to my name), my life in the real world consumes so much of my time that I can't spend as much in the virtual one.

But no, I'm not feeling sorry for myself. I ain't got time for that, either.

[RiffRandell]

149. Don't the cave people like to collect personal information on DU members?

I vaguely remember a story about them causing a member here professional problems; I don't know if they posted there, though.

Members have actually gone there and discussed other members? That's wrong, and grounds for banning imo.

[pintobean]

151. They've caused several DUers problems.

They're POS stalkers. PW and the other both joined there and discussed other DUers.

[Sheepshank]

37. PW got to serve on a Jury 16 times...not very comforting n/t

[hrmjustin]

42. I love pretzels.

[Autumn]

43. Your angst over Will Pitt is giving you way. Welcome back,

already.

[Solly Mack]

44. Is this anything like attending your own funeral?

Just curious.

[PowerToThePeople]

45. Enjoy your stay.

Who is going to take your place in my jury blacklist?

[Sheldon Cooper]

48. Here's your hat,what's your hurry?

AllIDrinkIsCoffee

Only lunatics are allowed to stay at DU.

And those very, very patient supporters of the President that find the strength not to put them in their place.

They have to be very patient because they don't have special protection like the upper class "celebrities" that buy their way in permanently, but can't cough up enough money for an insurance plan like every other responsible person in America.

[nadinbrzezinski]

50. Welcome back

[tenderfoot]

41. He was so annoying that I had put him on Ignore.

Guess it's safe to remove him from the list.

[hrmjustin]

46. Well I have to say it was easy to spot his sock after the advanced search..

I was alerted by anither member to check it out and I did.

[LondonReign2]

55. Yup

Another one of the Obama-can-do-no-wrong apologists that had been on my ignore list

[Blecht]

58. This is why I use the ignore function

Every time this happens, the subject is a member in good standing of my ignore list already.

[NuclearDem]

61. That was a long time coming.

[hrmjustin]

65. I see he joined the cave again.

For those lurking from the cave here is the hint. What beverage goes well with pretzels?

[NuclearDem]

78. Is it all you need?

[hrmjustin]

81. .

[hrmjustin]

89. I see one of you got it. I never said he would be good at it. Enjoy him!

[geek tragedy]

67. one of those who bothered me even when we agreed. nt

[Autumn]

69. Here's to Skinner.

Last edited Fri Mar 21, 2014, 08:50 PM - Edit history (1)

Special thanks to The Straight Story or Warren DeMontague for the awesomeness

[one_voice]

73. *spew coffee*

[Autumn]

75. I'm thinking you are going to steal that one too.

It was posted in MIRT a term or two back. I thought at the time when PW finally got it that would be perfect to post. I got permission from the creator so I went for it

if I get nuked I guess I'll know why.

[one_voice]

77. You should post in ATA and him to put it in his sig line.

[Autumn]

79. Okay, so I'm a fool but not that big a fool

Just had to post it for the celebration and when he showed up back in this thread it was a necessity. The PW and the cog

[steve2470]

88. awesome ! nt

[Rex]

101. LOL!

He looks too happy and not serious enough!

[Autumn]

116. Nonsense

Putin rode the bear, Skinner IS ONE with the bear.

[pintobean]

117. "There is a bear in the woods.

For some people, the bear is easy to see. Others don't see it at all. Some people say the bear is tame. Others say it's vicious and dangerous. Since no one can really be sure who's right, isn't it smart to be as strong as the bear? If there is a bear."

If Skinner is one with the bear, he is as strong as the bear. Smart.

[Warren DeMontague]

157. Um.... I could be wrong, but I dont think TSS did that fine... Work

Not sure who did---- Probably some horrible human being with a dirty, filthy sense of humor and far too much time on his nasty little hands.

[Autumn]

158. I did steal it from him, perhaps he was a thief also

[Warren DeMontague]

159. Yes! if only we could find the original creator, so he could be thanked properly by admin

Or you know what? forget I said anything.

[Puglover]

72. Wow!

How I missed this bit of deliciousness is a mystery.

So long you loathsome troll. Darling of so many here.

Rats I thought I had that lovely grave dancing gif in photo bucket.

Oh well.

[Cali_Democrat]

74. LOL @ "functioning_cog"

I find that name to be hilarious.

[morningfog]

112. I don't know where he got it, but it is a lyric in a song of Fleet Foxes song.

It is a great song off of an incredible album. Even that poster couldn't ruin the song for me, only got the song stuckin my head from time to time.

Such a great song.

[Warpy]

76. Not egregious enough to get on my iggie list

but certainly carried a "do not engage" warning.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

82. LOL. finally. nt

[RetroLounge]

90. About time...

Grave dancing on this one...



RL

[Jamastiene]

91. Sincerely, thank you.

[Oilwellian]

93. I would bet this one has a sock for every toe

Here's to no more of the Functioning Pretzel Cog Warrior! (til his next incarnation.)

[nadinbrzezinski]

125. You sir made me laugh

That is good

[Sarah Ibarruri]

94. Why do trolls do this? Is this the only sort of thrill they have? nt

[morningfog]

109. Sadly, I suppose so.

[hrmjustin]

95. Looks like he is having a fit at the cave.

[pintobean]

96. Kick for the evening crowd. /nt

[Rex]

100. Good to see that authoritarian shit stain sent packing.

Now hopefully the admins can get all his socks too. I see he already came back and posted in this thread! Pathetic.

[morningfog]

107. Ah, I just found this, so self-deleted my other. Glad to rid the air of that long time troll.

He just couldn't post without trolling and being a total ass.

[Jazzgirl]

119. Finally!!!!

I knew this one was a troll from the beginning.

[Lunacee_2013]

138. Good.

He always seemed to find a way to be sexist in pro-feminist threads, even made a rape joke in one of them. Plus, there was that one thread about gays in the Ukraine (iirc) were he just acted like an ass. Posts about privilege made him sound defensive and angry.

[QC]

148. PW wasn't the only one running a sock in that thread.

Look closely and you will see a longtime DUer getting her personae mixed up and replying to herself.

Mahalo!

[RandiFan1290]

150. I saw that!

[QC]

152. Hi-larious, wasn't it? n/t

[Jesus Malverde]

153. which thread please...nt

[QC]

154. Here -->

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024674859

[Jesus Malverde]

155. thanks!..nt

[QC]

156. Mahalo!