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Hillary Insiders Say They Won't Work for Her If She Hires This Man
"I would do anything for Hillary. Except work with Mark Penn."
By David Corn
| Wed Mar. 19, 2014 3:00 AM GMT
In recent weeks, I've talked to several Washington politicos close to Bill and Hillary Clinton, and when I've asked if they will be joining Hillary's presidential machine, should she run, I've received a variant of this (understandably) not-for-citation reply: If Mark Penn is involved, no f-ing way.
Penn is famousor infamousfor being the chief strategist for Hillary Clinton's 2008 presidential campaign of inevitability that turned into a colossal failure. That effort was marked by hubris, lousy messaging, poor strategic planning, and legendary internal tensionsincluding back-biting, leaks, and fierce inside politicsthat many within the politerati blamed, fairly or not, on Penn. In the book Game Change, John Heilemann and Mark Halperin described the campaign as "a simmering cauldron of long-held animositiesmost of them directed at Penn." It was personal: "{T}he rest of Hillaryland detested Penn personally. They thought him arrogant and amoral, a detrimental force whose perniciousness was amplified by his inexplicably tight bond with the Clintons."
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Hillary Insiders Say They Won't Work for Her If She Hires This Man (Original Post)
babylonsister
Mar 2014
OP
he recruited Penn, a consultant and pollster, to help him triangulate against his own party and
djean111
Mar 2014
#2
I detest most of the Clintonista Crew, myself. Penn is only one of a bad bunch.
Ikonoklast
Mar 2014
#3
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)1. The company we keep. inexplicably
djean111
(14,255 posts)2. he recruited Penn, a consultant and pollster, to help him triangulate against his own party and
move toward the center."
And there you have it.
And there you have it.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)3. I detest most of the Clintonista Crew, myself. Penn is only one of a bad bunch.
They are all more concerned with Power, how to get it and how to keep it, than acting or governing like actual Democrats.
ABH.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)4. damn you, you made me think of Lanny Davis...
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)5. Oh, a fight you want, eh?
You think that turd stank?
I give you...James Carville.
Fox loves lots of them ex-Clinton shitbags.