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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA Ref Wouldn't Let This Girl Play in Her Hijab — Here's How Her Team Responded
Last week in response, the Overland High School girls soccer team took an inspiring stand in support of their teammate and her freedom of religious expression by donning headscarves representative of Aidah's hijab.
With more than 40,000 retweets and favorites so far, teammate Divine Davis' photo of the team in headscarves is making a loud statement about equality.
Last year, a high school flag football team in Florida similarly stood in solidarity with a team member who had been the victim of tauntings and racial slurs. But the team's tribute was only limited to pre-game warm-ups as the Florida High School Athletic Association has regulations on what can be worn during play as well.
http://www.policymic.com/articles/85471/a-ref-wouldn-t-let-this-girl-play-in-her-hijab-here-s-how-her-team-responded
Gothmog
(145,129 posts)Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)Hopefully they will carry this with them the rest of their lives.
riversedge
(70,186 posts)calimary
(81,220 posts)Love it! Good for those girls!
malaise
(268,930 posts)Rec
Renew Deal
(81,855 posts)LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)The FIFA decision is pertinent, since safety was the concern cited by the refs.
http://www.aljazeera.com/sport/football/2014/03/fifa-allows-hijab-turban-players-20143113053667394.html
www.aljazeera.com/sport/football/2014/03/fifa-allows-hijab-turban-players-20143113053667394.html
elephant hunter
(70 posts)If you don't believe me then just ask one of them.
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)But FIFA did investigate whether wearing hijabs is an indication of greater risk of injury. It appears that the answer to that inquiry was "no." Since the objection is one of safety, it's pertinent to note that decision, isn't it?
elephant hunter
(70 posts)The scarves in the photo have not been approved by FIFA and the referee was correct in his ruling. Therefore there is very little pertinent put forth by anyone in this thread.
cindyperry2010
(846 posts)for them
FailureToCommunicate
(14,012 posts)goalies ruin a good game of 'football'
secondwind
(16,903 posts)pnwmom
(108,976 posts)Why not a broken neck, too?
Because nothing could possibly go wrong in playing a sport with long scarves dangling from your neck.
Yes, I know, sports fans, there's not certain PROOF about the headers. But more and more concern among doctors, especially about younger players. And it stands to reason that bashing your head against a ball several hundred times a week in practices and games might not be the best thing for delicate brains inside hard skulls.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/27/sports/soccer/researchers-find-brain-trauma-disease-in-a-soccer-player.html
Dr. Erin Bigler, a professor of psychology and neuroscience and the director of the Magnetic Resonance Imaging Research Facility:
The brain is a very delicate organ, and it probably can withstand some injury, but the whole issue of repeated injury is a very different circumstance, he said. When its moving, its moving with its 200 billion brain cells. And those cells are being, in some way, mechanically deformed, some more than others, which gives you an appreciation of whats going on with these collisions.
Bigler said he would not recommend that players, especially young ones, routinely head the ball. The brain is not fully developed until about age 25, he said, making it more susceptible to injury.
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The cold, hard reality is that the data dont exist to address that question, said Dr. Michael L. Lipton, a neuroscientist and neuroradiologist at Yeshiva Universitys Albert Einstein College of Medicine, who studies the effects of heading. Were really in very much uncharted territory. So what should I do with my kid? That basically becomes the kind of risk-benefit assessment we have to make all the time in life.
SNIP
Last year, the journal Radiology published results of a study by Lipton and others of 39 amateur adult soccer players, with a median age of 31, who had played soccer since childhood. It concluded that heading is associated with abnormal white matter microstructure and with poorer neurocognitive performance.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Edited to find a photo that would show.
pnwmom
(108,976 posts)but that's their choice.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)enough
(13,256 posts)There aren't a lot of them, and I'm sorry to say they don't seem to keep coming for long periods of time. But I've never seen anything I thought was a safety issue for them or others around them.
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)My guess is the one in the front with the headband.
KG
(28,751 posts)Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)rpannier
(24,329 posts)It may be banned to wear it
If it is, then all the outrage foisted on the ref is inappropriate
The ref's job is to enforce the rules and guidelines set out
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)All those loose ends need to be tucked under the shirts.
Kudos to the team for doing the right thing!
wickerwoman
(5,662 posts)I used to be a youth soccer referee and before every match we had to walk down the length of players and ask them to remove jewellry, rings and earrings, tuck in their shirts and remove any non-uniform clothing that could snag other players or injure them. I wouldn't have let a girl play in a loose head scarf like that. It's a semi-contact sport and she could easily have injured herself or someone else (imagine two players going up to head the ball- the other girl goes higher and her hand or elbow snags the scarf either wrenching the first girl's neck or breaking the other girl's finger. I sprained a thumb once just accidentally snagging another girl's shirt that was too loose). If a girl showed up wearing a cross necklace over their uniform, I would have asked them to remove that too.
efhmc
(14,725 posts)Barrettes also.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Good grief, so many "issues" are so damned easy to solve.
They're even available in "team" colors.
The coach is a bigot and stupid, too.
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)When I saw the photo, I wondered if all the bright colors and patterns were traditionally allowed or might this be something newer? Everyone I've seen has been fairly subdued.
Arguing with one teenager is difficult, arguing with eighteen...impossible. You lose. Let her wear the Hijab
one_voice
(20,043 posts)Hijab, looks like colors and patterns are ok.
https://www.google.com/search?source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=2OssU8bsGdHMkAfO3oCQBg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1600&bih=796&q=traditional%20colors%20for%20Hijab
Agree with you on arguing with teenagers.
Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)Time was short and I got lazy and asked the group.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)You will find a wide variety of dress among Muslims .... not only the obvious differences between the burqa, hijab, chador ... but differences in color, pattern and style.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/24118241
Islam requires both men and women to dress modestly ... how this is achieved is cultural.
How Muslims dress around the world http://islamfashionandidentity.blogspot.com/2009/03/salam-aleikum-on-this-page-i-would-like.html
MADem
(135,425 posts)All "hijab" means is covering.
Anything can be a "hijab" -- even a scarf and a baseball cap.
Check out the Persian archer at ths link...
http://muslimmedianetwork.com/mmn/?p=2731
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)progressoid
(49,978 posts)brooklynite
(94,502 posts)What if I'm inflamed with lust? As a male, I apparently can't control myself.
The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)Nope - they were posing for a photo. And posing means they were forced to stand that way to please men.
Those ladies (not gals....) probably have a hard life of men looking at them and opening doors for them they don't need to have it compounded by having their sinful photos plastered all over a progressive message board.
(we need a door opening smilie)
blackspade
(10,056 posts)I just hope that boomers and genX don't totally fuck the world up beyond hope in the meantime.
TNNurse
(6,926 posts)stonecutter357
(12,695 posts)Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)the power of beautiful, intelligent young women.
Huge K&R
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Sarah Ibarruri
(21,043 posts)pffshht
(79 posts)But not so much with her parents for making her wear it in the first place.
See the earlier thread here on Christian purity balls / promise rings. See a double standard?
To me it's no more 'OK' to be a fundamentalist Muslim than it is to be a fundamentalist Christian.
Both religions are stupid, misogynist, anti-science, and have no legitimate place in 21st century America.
Islam tends to get a pass from the left because it the right wing have made it an enemy. But the Bible is
just a stupid book; and the Koran is just another stupid book. Living by thousand-year-old rules in the
information age is not good, indoctrinating kids in long-discredited myths is not good, women wearing
head coverings all the time and submitting to men in the name of tradition is not good, and I don't support any of it.
Democracyinkind
(4,015 posts)She is her own person, presumably, is she not? A person with her own free will? Would you have made the same assumption if this was about wearing a rosary?
(That's an honest question... Not trying to goad)
alp227
(32,017 posts)Can't exactly say wearing the headscarf was HER choice.
Democracyinkind
(4,015 posts)alp227
(32,017 posts)especially in radically religious families.
Democracyinkind
(4,015 posts)riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)If a Muslimah is observant, and wants to wear a hijab, that also means she's covered head to toe. So to be compliant all of those girls should be in garments that cover their arms and legs, as well as their heads.
That those girls have short sleeves and shorts only indicates that they don't "get" the religious proscription about this.
Finally, every soccer game my girls played meant that any extraneous items must be removed. Jewelry, arm bracelets, head bands - any of it was prohibited because of safety concerns. The kind of hijab those girls are wearing is dangerous. I have no doubt the stewards ruled them inadmissible. Any parent whose kids are involved in the sport would recognize the dangers and would similarly be wary of that kind of loose headgear.
BainsBane
(53,031 posts)It appears not. Veiling takes a wide variety of forms, in some places a simple, sheer silk scarf draped over the hair in others a headscarf, and for a few a burka that covers most of their body. The latter is the least common form.
Somali teens in Minneapolis
Somali women at a protest in Minneapolis
The statement by this team is against bigotry, and those young girls are clearly more evolved than those outraged that women dare dress in ways they don't approve of.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)A pious muslimah who feels so devout that she.must cover her head would most certainly also be wearing long sleeves and long pants.
Playing soccer in a hijab is risking serious injury. I can appreciate the support this girls teammates are showing while still pointing out the deep flaws.
JI7
(89,247 posts)i thought it would be dangerous also but i saw the outfits worn by women playing sports and those seem safe.
BainsBane
(53,031 posts)You are not an expert on the Koran. Different groups interpret its meaning in different ways. I posted photos of actual women, many from my own community which has the largest population of Somalis in the US. We also have the first Muslim elected to congress. I am not going to decide who is or isn't devout based on what she wears. That is entirely her business. There is quite a bit available to read about veiling. You might try looking for some articles.
Wearing a headscarf is no more dangerous than any other kind of hat. Thankfully, I live in a country where religious choice is protected, and people like you don't get to decide how others can dress or honor their god.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)Why are people so bigoted of others who are not like them? Whenever I run into women dressed thusly, at the grocery store or on the sidewalk, it brings a smile to my face and a "Hi" comes out of my mouth. Bigots are repulsed by them, but I'm thrilled with them. I find all the women in these photos beautiful with their scarves/head coverings.
Vashta Nerada
(3,922 posts)Um, it is a safety concern. Nobody should be wearing loose-fitting clothing in sports.
I suppose if a wood shop banned hijabs, people would get up in arms over that as well.
JI7
(89,247 posts)many muslim women don't wear any head covering at all.
theboss
(10,491 posts)If an opponent's hand gets caught, your body is going to go one way while your head goes the other.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)William769
(55,144 posts)Aristus
(66,316 posts)want their country back.
This is one more of way of telling them that it's our country.
All of us. Together.
Whether they like it or not.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)glowing
(12,233 posts)But many kids seem to like this no bully crap and I hope their generation really has a big impact on the world trying to be civil to one another...
Hekate
(90,644 posts)Last edited Sun Mar 23, 2014, 06:02 PM - Edit history (1)
The girl(s) ought to be looking into that style for active sports. The non-Muslim girls on that team have made a marvelous show of solidarity with that photo, though, and that's the point.
Someone asked about color: in university towns where I've lived (So Cal and Honolulu) we naturally have foreign students. Colors kind of run the gamut. Probably the dullest outfits I've ever seen on were on women who looked Indonesian, and their hijabs and outer robes were beige, solid beige. Indian Hindu and Pakistani women always look gorgeous in their bright silks. The only place I've ever seen the head to toe black robes was in London, where there are a lot of Saudis.
on belated edit: Changed Not to Now. Damned typos.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)seveneyes
(4,631 posts)Great team support and good to see. The bigger question is, why is there so much support for observing religion in government schools here?
theboss
(10,491 posts)Just sayin'
But is this a school team or a league team?
seveneyes
(4,631 posts)NuttyFluffers
(6,811 posts)and, lo, the fashion police will rue the day of their lycra capris! cobra-lalalalalalalalala!
ismnotwasm
(41,976 posts)Buddyblazon
(3,014 posts)that's my Alma Mater! Class of '90.
Go Trailblazers!!!!